Fascinating. While I'm not happy with the no lynch obviously, at least I'm still alive. So call was lying about his claim, something I was suspecting, but not sure on. Now we have Gink and Mad with their claims out in the open.

The question I have is if there is one or two scum...We had a serial killer, but there are a lot of one shot items about...seems like too many scum would cause the game to flatline quickly. I'm very curious as to why no scum kill last night...So much happened I'm not sure what is what. So Cal tried to kill Ninja, who got himself blown up. Vis killed cal, and was protected from the mafia kill by Bike? That seems to be the only situation unless I'm missing something.

I think Bike is pretty well cleared now with that note, since I'm not sure of anything else that could cause that.

I know I'm not scum

I trust GNiPs due to previously mentioned reasons.

Oni is slightly suspicious just due to the fact that he is accumulating kill items...though his trader role is believe able enough.

That leave the two I've been most suspicious of all game...Mad and Gink.

I think we need to be really careful with votes now, since if there are two scum they could turbo hammer if we aren't careful. Plus longer means GNiPs can use his ability.

So a complete inventory of my items:

1-shot blaster pistol (1-shot kill, starting item)

Bulletproof vest (1-shot self protect, starting item)

2 doses red spice (vote and day action block, starting items)

1 dose blue spice (voteblock, acquired from ovi the turn he died)

1 vibroknife (1-shot kill, acquired from Gink last night)

Anybody been keeping a last-minute secret item stash that they are willing to trade for one of these?

Sorry Onid. Unless the scanner wasnt a starting item?

Nice to see JJ "scumhunting".... nah, I really cant call it that.

I protected Mad N1 so there must be another killer out there, even if both Ovi and CNinj can be chalked up to Cal? Bike seems to think he didnt save anyone, so why did no one else die? I dont get it, I thought only Onid had any protection.

Here is a conudrum. Why would Cal shoot CNinja?

Well the same as everyone else he must have known GNips or Vis were going to be protected by Bike. Onid has his bp.

So why not kill Bike? Because he believed Mads claim!

Thats good enough for me. It has to be.

#Vote JJ.

1 hour ago, Ginkapo said:

Here is a conudrum. Why would Cal shoot CNinja?

Well the same as everyone else he must have known GNips or Vis were going to be protected by Bike. Onid has his bp.

So why not kill Bike? Because he believed Mads claim!

Thats good enough for me. It has to be.

#Vote JJ.

. . . so why not kill Mad? And he also said he believed CNinja, due to Toad, so. . .

And why would I have been a protection target from Bike?

And another thing - it was implied that he escaped Ninja's blast - how? Or do you think that Biggs phrased it that way to allow Vis to get his win con?

55 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

. . . so why not kill Mad? And he also said he believed CNinja, due to Toad, so. . .

Ah. Good point. Fear of the unknown maybe? Its a bit odd.

54 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

And why would I have been a protection target from Bike?

Cause you said yesterday that Bike should protect one of you or Vis.

2 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Ah. Good point. Fear of the unknown maybe? Its a bit odd.

Cause you said yesterday that Bike should protect one of you or Vis.

Oh. I didn't recall.

So valid targets for Cal were:

Gink
Mad
Bike
CNinja
JJ

To knock them off the list one-by-one:

By Cal's own words, he believed Ninja. . . so why would he choose to commit suicide?
Bike was likely watched, so his being not targeted is understandable

The odds of the other three having something dangerous was low. Why wouldn't he target one of them?

JJ perhaps because Vis was supposedly going to? Maybe he didn't want to waste his shot?

That leaves an odd discrepancy with Mad and Gink. . .

The thing is, he was a serial killer, not a Mafioso. So we still have one of those to find, most likely.

Of us 6:

I am clear (from my POV anyway)
Bike is clear - Pod's death all but confirmed it, and Vis's message should too
Oni is somewhat clear - he's a trader, at least.
Gink - appears to have his story confirmed by Oni. Unless they are both scum, they kinda clear each other.
JJ - ??
Mad - ??

The last two are unconfirmed because JJ had no night action, and Mad has nothing to report.

I think we should focus down on those two.

Thing is, unless there are redirects, i know I stopped Mad dying N1. Who shot him if not JJ?

17 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Thing is, unless there are redirects, i know I stopped Mad dying N1. Who shot him if not JJ?

Oh Mad was attacked? I thought he wasn't, night 1.

13 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Oh Mad was attacked? I thought he wasn't, night 1.

He was, otherwise my emergency medicene would have killed him.

Just now, Ginkapo said:

He was, otherwise my emergency medicene would have killed him.

Ah, interesting.

So we have, out of 6:

Gink
Mad
Me
Oni
Bike

cleared.

That pretty much leaves only one person. I shan't vote him yet till I get the opinion of others.

@Onidsen - can you confirm Gink's ability?

Remember that Visovics said that JJ's claim was believable because of his word choice.

15 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

Biggs played a joke on me with this role. I have a survivor win condition, nothing strange there. But I am a self aligned Pirate Surgeon. My surgical skills might be ok but a goddamn knife is not appropriate!

In normal mafia terms I am a CPR Doc. And I have to use my action, or did till I ditched the flipping thing.

N1 I got lucky, and if you check back why I have been very reluctant about lynching Mad. I visited him N1, he was difficult to read and I doubted anyone was going to choose to watch him. Anyway, he is still alive....

So, the item was a 1-shot vibroblade. Your ability was tied to the knife? Would't that mean that you lost the ability when you used the knife the first time? And doesn't Oni now have to use it? What made it obligatory?

20 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

So, the item was a 1-shot vibroblade. Your ability was tied to the knife? Would't that mean that you lost the ability when you used the knife the first time? And doesn't Oni now have to use it? What made it obligatory?

I have spare powerpacks, though I dont think these are tradable items.

Well without the knife I cannot undertake emergency surgery. Biggs put a "must" in my rolepm, otherwise there would be no incentive. I think the trading and jailkeep stealing were ways of stopping my role.

From what I can tell for Oni it is a kill weapon, he should have had rudimentary medical training!

3 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

I have spare powerpacks, though I dont think these are tradable items.

Well without the knife I cannot undertake emergency surgery. Biggs put a "must" in my rolepm, otherwise there would be no incentive. I think the trading and jailkeep stealing were ways of stopping my role.

From what I can tell for Oni it is a kill weapon, he should have had rudimentary medical training!

Ah, I see.

Basically, if you want decent medical talk to Bike just dont disrespect him.

If you've been shot, I can probably give you an arm amputation, adrenalin and whisky will get you through.

If you havent been shot, you may well die of shock and infection if I give you an arm amputation.

Arm amputations was p9 of the training manual, I havent got to p10 and the anaesthetics required seemed expensive so just use whisky instead.

Well could have. Cant do any of that without the knife.

3 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Ah, interesting.

So we have, out of 6:

Gink
Mad
Me
Oni
Bike

cleared.

That pretty much leaves only one person. I shan't vote him yet till I get the opinion of others.

@Onidsen - can you confirm Gink's ability?

Remember that Visovics said that JJ's claim was believable because of his word choice.

I cannot confirm the ability, but I find his story plausible, especially given his most recent discussion.

It does seem that most of the other night actions are accounted for, so I'm up for this:

## vote JJ

At a conference today, will try to make some time for analysis later

8 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

#Vote JJ.

"##"

6 players capable of voting = 4 to hammer:

1. @GhostofNobodyInParticular -
2. @Madaghmire -
3. @Ginkapo -
4. @Onidsen -
5. @Bike Stunts -
6. @JJs Juggernaut - (2) - Ginkapo, Onidsen
7. No Lynch -

@Onidsen My powerpacks are tradable to! Biggs just answered a pm query.

So if you can take them rather than the scanner you might be able to do it.

Just now, Ginkapo said:

@Onidsen My powerpacks are tradable to! Biggs just answered a pm query.

So if you can take them rather than the scanner you might be able to do it.

Excellent! You want a blaster or a dose of spice?

Putting two votes on someone this early is dangerous and stinks of scum to me. Gink never mentioned he saved Mad before, nor did Mad ever allude to it. This is very suspicious, don't let yourselves be lead by scum who know I can't defend myself during the day's usually!

##vote Gink