[MAFIA] Death on the Independent Station - Day 5

By BiggsIRL, in Star Wars: Armada Off-Topic

2 minutes ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

Also GNiPs, you say I took no action against Mad or Gink for not claiming, yet currently my vote is on Mad....

You voted Mad before you claimed. . . I meant after they didn't fulfill your conditions. Like, you didn't attack them or question them or anything. . . . meh, 'twas a minor issue, comparatively.

Anyways, have we anybody who has second thoughts?

The time issue is real, that we know.

One last note before I leave. I completely believe GNiPs claim. Mine specifically mentions being hired by the Station Owner to hunt scum on his station. Up until he claimed, I assumed that it was the deceased Biggs.

2 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Anyways, have we anybody who has second thoughts?

The time issue is real, that we know.

Honestly, I was just joke retaliating on JJ with my initial vote, fully expecting that as discussion moved along a more viable scum target would present itself. It wasn't until I broke down the claims, and now looking back more closely, that I began to harbor real doubts. At this point I feel pretty safe with him taking the lynch, as the "ya'll are idiots" defense isn't super great.

The station owner thing would be more convincing if he had included it in his initial claim post.

10 minutes ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

Yal are idiots...Obviously you all hammered truthiness before I could even vote (you did it during the middle of the day again). Anyone voting for me is wasting time, and also very potentially scummy. I've got a job to do, and I hate that I somehow need all your cooperation to do it.

Also GNiPs, you say I took no action against Mad or Gink for not claiming, yet currently my vote is on Mad....

It's hard to push anything, no matter your role, when you are limited with the amount of posting you can do. I chose to vote on Gink for more reasons of spite and slight suspicious. I hoped either the town would join, or we would find another target who I could join in on latter...and we did with Truthiness, but as previously stated, I didn't even get a chance.

I need to go to work now, I doubt I'll have time like yesterday to check the thread.

This actually isn't true, you just need GNiPs to super hammer who you're voting for.

3 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Anyways, have we anybody who has second thoughts?

The time issue is real, that we know.

I think its on you now GNIPs. If my suspicions about my leading suspect (BIGGS!) are correct, you may really be the only TOWN in a field of scum and villainy.

JJs last quote does give me some pause, but why not mention it before?

Anyway, I think it's all up to you now. You're gonna have to choose wisely.

If I were in your shoes, Gink and JJ would be my leading suspects. But I am not in your shoes.

5 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

I think its on you now GNIPs. If my suspicions about my leading suspect (BIGGS!) are correct, you may really be the only TOWN in a field of scum and villainy.

JJs last quote does give me some pause, but why not mention it before?

Anyway, I think it's all up to you now. You're gonna have to choose wisely.

If I were in your shoes, Gink and JJ would be my leading suspects. But I am not in your shoes.

Yeah gee, thanks. . . :(

As you probably saw last time the final, game-deciding vote was left me, I didn't do so well.

Now. Of you 8:

1) CNinja's claim appears to be confirmed by Toad's death - though he did plant that idea. . .
2) Gink ????????
3) Bike's role is supported by Pod's death.
4) Onidsen. . . seems OK? I am willing to let him reach tomorrow so he has a chance to use his scanner
5) Vis I willing to let live so that he can hunt scum - preferably he and Oni work out on whom to use their respective powers. . .
6) Mad. . . Mad. . . unclaimed, win con difficult to achieve if we knew of it. . .
7) JJ - that last reference probably saved his life for today. It is late in the day to mention it though, so could be a cooked up response, but just in case. . . he did kinda breadcrumb it when he mentioned he had other contracts to fill (don't remember the post, but I did comment on it earlier).
8) Caldias - Vis laid out a nice argument against him.

So. . . Vis, Bike, CNinja and Oni get passes, in my book. Mad and Caldias are suspicious, but then again, not immensely so, and JJ breadcrumbed his role (what do you guys think about that?). That leaves Gink.

I'm willing to go Gink, then we act based on the reports of Oni and Vis tomorrow. . . how much time do we have left?

7 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Yeah gee, thanks. . . :(

As you probably saw last time the final, game-deciding vote was left me, I didn't do so well.

Now. Of you 8:

1) CNinja's claim appears to be confirmed by Toad's death - though he did plant that idea. . .
2) Gink ????????
3) Bike's role is supported by Pod's death.
4) Onidsen. . . seems OK? I am willing to let him reach tomorrow so he has a chance to use his scanner
5) Vis I willing to let live so that he can hunt scum - preferably he and Oni work out on whom to use their respective powers. . .
6) Mad. . . Mad. . . unclaimed, win con difficult to achieve if we knew of it. . .
7) JJ - that last reference probably saved his life for today. It is late in the day to mention it though, so could be a cooked up response, but just in case. . . he did kinda breadcrumb it when he mentioned he had other contracts to fill (don't remember the post, but I did comment on it earlier).
8) Caldias - Vis laid out a nice argument against him.

So. . . Vis, Bike, CNinja and Oni get passes, in my book. Mad and Caldias are suspicious, but then again, not immensely so, and JJ breadcrumbed his role (what do you guys think about that?). That leaves Gink.

I'm willing to go Gink, then we act based on the reports of Oni and Vis tomorrow. . . how much time do we have left?

Breadcrumbs dont mean much to me. I find them useful only in deciding whom to believe in a counterclaim. Breadcrumbing a fake claim (a claim no one pushed for, btw, one he just gave us) is just smart play.

Hey, sorry for the absence

So I think Cninja is mostly safe right now, I'm not willing to take that risk, although the claim of being only survivor set an alarm off in my head, I have the feeling there is something more he is not telling

Gink despite the holidays has managed to come quite well, and laid some very good arguments, I don't see anything scummy from him

I believe Bike because of how he and Pod interacted before about the night, and then Pod's death confirms they didn't prepare it in advance to play as a big scum lie, so I trust him

Onidsen has a believable claim and it checks with Ovi's inventory having one red, so trust him.

Slippy Nippy is the only claimed town, so I'm believing in him unless something wildly obvious that he is scum, I mostly trust him

Mad's argument that his win implies one of us has to lose worries me, but I don't see much on him

JJ has a similar type of objective as me, and he used some words that show up in mine before I claimed or used them,so I give him a pass for now

I already laid my thoughts on Caldias, see a few pages before

Oh his breadcrumb was a throwaway line of "I have other contracts to fulfill"

21 hours ago, BiggsIRL said:

9 players capable of voting = 5 to hammer:

  1. @GhostofNobodyInParticular -
  2. @Madaghmire - (2) Onidsen, JJs Juggernaut
  3. @Ginkapo -
  4. @Visovics -
  5. @CaribbeanNinja -
  6. @Caldias - (1) - Visovics,
  7. @Onidsen -
  8. @Bike Stunts -
  9. @JJs Juggernaut - (3) - Caldias, Caribbean Ninja, Madaghmire,
  10. No Lynch -

Biggs asked me to watch the forum for him while he was asleep (he's on nights). Here's the vote count I was able to piece together (please correct me if I missed any, you all are active). I don't have a time, unfortunately.

Edited by Truthiness

Worth noting is GNiPs, if his role claim is true, can hammer anyone he wants now that it is 24 hours left, correct?

Just now, Caldias said:

Worth noting is GNiPs, if his role claim is true, can hammer anyone he wants now that it is 24 hours left, correct?

I think so?

42 minutes ago, Caldias said:

Worth noting is GNiPs, if his role claim is true, can hammer anyone he wants now that it is 24 hours left, correct?

I'm going to rule yes. I don't know the exact time, but I'm certain we have less than 24 remaining.

Edited by Truthiness
46 minutes ago, Truthiness said:

Biggs asked me to watch the forum for him while he was asleep (he's on nights). Here's the vote count I was able to piece together (please correct me if I missed any, you all are active). I don't have a time, unfortunately.

Bike unvoted me.

2 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Bike unvoted me.

Fixed

OK. So I'll give JJ a pass tonight, hopefully his role can be confirmed overnight.

Gink, Mad, or Cal. . . .

. . .

Onid wont use his identity scanner brcause ot wont help him avhieve his win condition. Thats why I have asked him to trade as I have no such reservations.

1 minute ago, Ginkapo said:

Onid wont use his identity scanner brcause ot wont help him avhieve his win condition. Thats why I have asked him to trade as I have no such reservations.

Ah, I thought he couldn't trade it with anybody. . . I take it you have something he doesn't? May I ask what?

3 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Ah, I thought he couldn't trade it with anybody. . . I take it you have something he doesn't? May I ask what?

I do have something, its not helpful for me to say. I lose my ability by trading, but a cop check is worth more. Unless he trades I would rather keep it a secret.

Just now, Ginkapo said:

I do have something, its not helpful for me to say. I lose my ability by trading, but a cop check is worth more. Unless he trades I would rather keep it a secret.

So you have an ability, that you lose by trading [it away I assume?], but you are willing to do so in order to become a cop, and thus likely a target. . . Did you use your ability last night?

4 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

So you have an ability, that you lose by trading [it away I assume?], but you are willing to do so in order to become a cop, and thus likely a target. . . Did you use your ability last night?

Woah there not quite. To become a one time cop and thus after use zero threat to anyone!

Its beautiful.

13 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

OK. So I'll give JJ a pass tonight, hopefully his role can be confirmed overnight.

Gink, Mad, or Cal. . . .

. . .

That's fair, JJ got bumrushed the last game.

##unvote

I do think that a lot of the suspicion from me is carrying over from my first game, but that's fair enough. If Pod only started acting bananas on Day Two, I'd totally understand why some could view my actions as hasty, but we endured a whole day (three or so IRL days) of sifting through ten five word posts in a row, so I still stand by me reasoning. No role is worth that kind of distracting obfuscation imo.

##vote JJ.

I'll put him back to L-2

7 minutes ago, Caldias said:

That's fair, JJ got bumrushed the last game.

##unvote

I do think that a lot of the suspicion from me is carrying over from my first game, but that's fair enough. If Pod only started acting bananas on Day Two, I'd totally understand why some could view my actions as hasty, but we endured a whole day (three or so IRL days) of sifting through ten five word posts in a row, so I still stand by me reasoning. No role is worth that kind of distracting obfuscation imo.

As I said man, you're kinda mild on the list, but then so is everybody else. . . you three are equally kinda less mild. . .

8 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Woah there not quite. To become a one time cop and thus after use zero threat to anyone!

Its beautiful.

So you mean you use it once, and then because you used it you are no threat? But the night you obtain it you'll be a threat, no? Wouldn't they kill you tonight just because of that?