[MAFIA] Death on the Independent Station - Day 5

By BiggsIRL, in Star Wars: Armada Off-Topic

39 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

At first he passed his gom jabbar so

now its time for me to bail you out

.. had to go with the extended version for extra Gomez...

2 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:

## respect

That is NOT a valid day action. And ya'll didn't stop posting until I said whether it was a valid day action. For shame! I should mod-kill every one of you.

I'm not, but that's a warning.

13 players capable of voting = 7 to hammer:

  1. @ovinomanc3r - Onidsen , Ginkapo , Truthiness ,
  2. @GhostofNobodyInParticular -
  3. @Truthiness - Onidsen ,
  4. @Madaghmire - Ginkapo ,
  5. @Ginkapo - (2) - Truthiness , JJs Juggernaut, PodRacer , Truthiness,
  6. @Visovics - (1) - Truthiness , Ovinomanc3r,
  7. @PodRacer - (5) - Visovics, Onidsen, TheToad, Madaghmire, Ginkapo,
  8. @CaribbeanNinja - Visovics ,
  9. @TheToad -
  10. @Caldias -
  11. @Onidsen -
  12. @Bike Stunts -
  13. @JJs Juggernaut -
  14. No Lynch - TheToad ,

A little over 48 hours left, FYI.

3 minutes ago, BiggsIRL said:

That is NOT a valid day action. And ya'll didn't stop posting until I said whether it was a valid day action. For shame! I should mod-kill every one of you.

I'm not, but that's a warning.

Sorry I didn't know how a day action looked like. In hindsight I should know cause now seems obvious. My fault.

Well now we're at an impasse...

I believe there are 2 options in regards to Pods identity

Pod is what he claims, a third party Superman who can save the town with his super powers (and possibly use those powers against us later) or he's scum desperately trying not to get lynched

If we lynch him and what he says is true what are we out? A third party wildcard who could of used his powers to help either faction.

If we lynch him and it turns out he's scum that gives us some answers

If we don't lynch him and what he says is true then we take the chance of killing a townie and the scum could kill Pod off anyway so we'll have to protect him

If we don't lynch him and what he says isn't true... well you guys have heard of the Trojan horse...

Unless someone straight up confesses to being scum my vote remains

Seriously Pod, just spill the beans in plain English already. You're at -2. If you don't reveal now, you die anyway. At least this way you could potentially be protected if a doc is out there.

I'll hammer you myself if your next post isn't a full reveal.

15 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

Certain roles arent harmful to town and can win with town. It depends on whos in control.

However, before you go too far, he did not say he was 3rd party as an original thought, he comfirmed your proposal.

I do not know if genuinely thought you were being helpful or trying to help a mate, but you've completely destroyed any chance of getting reliable information from him.

You still haven't really explained this yet Gink. I'm really wondering about this post.

6 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

Explain.

So far you have questioned me quirying if Pod is town. He subsequently claimed not to be town.

What is your problem with me?

@Cninja and JJ.

As you are soft defending Pod please bring forward a case of more importance to chase. If we should not lynch Pod today who should we lynch? All well and good saying that 3rd party is not the most important to lynch, but neither of you say who else we should lynch. JJ specifically says we should put pressure elsewhere, are you willing to lead that? Voting me in spite is not pressure.

##unvote ##vote Podracer

@PodRacer you are at L-2. Time to claim

Right now, I'm on board withe either lynching Pod, or you or Truthiness. That is what my gut is telling me. If Pod flips as something that confirms his rambling story, then we can look at all of us that have been putting pressure on him. Especially lately.

3 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:

However I am with Gink about his third party claim. CNinja basically asked "do you want to claim third party or die?" So the answer was obvious by far.

Seriously? If somebody asks you hey are you scum or 3rd party, the correct answer is...

"I am neither. I am town."

3 hours ago, PodRacer said:

My third party reveal was days and days ago to those who have been following closely, @Ginkapo Realised too late what was gonna happen and moved to immediately discredit any claim i made in that moment, one of the most devious and untrustworthy plays yet. IMO

If Pod racer is scum, or his story doesn't check out at all, we can kind of disregard this.

But,

If his story does check out, I'd continue the hard look at Ginkapo. It is also very interesting that Ovinomanc3r is backing up Gink here.

23 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

You still haven't really explained this yet Gink. I'm really wondering about this post.

Caldias explained it marvellously.

Truth. Have you dropped your accusation because I am still waiting. Your last post was distinctly lacking.

9 hours ago, Caldias said:

I think here Gink means he didn't mention 3rd party until after CNinja asked Podracer if he was scum or 3rd party, which means CNinja might have inadvertantly planted the idea of claiming 3rd party. But, after Truthiness' last game 3rd party was made famous. My only reason for not believing him is lack of Megamind pictures.

This? Really?

Because this is a stretch for you Gink.

@Ginkapo You're basically saying:

"Cninja, you've ruined our chances of getting reliable info from Podracer..."

"Hey Podracer I've put you at l-2, better give us some reliable information..."

1 minute ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

@Ginkapo You're basically saying:

"Cninja, you've ruined our chances of getting reliable info from Podracer..."

"Hey Podracer I've put you at l-2, better give us some reliable information..."

What I havent done is say:

"Hey if you claim 3rd party survivor I wont lynch you...." and at this point that does not match anything he has said so I wouldnt believe him.

His role is still original content.

All I said was use a pinch of salt with his answer.

1 minute ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

@Ginkapo You're basically saying:

"Cninja, you've ruined our chances of getting reliable info from Podracer..."

"Hey Podracer I've put you at l-2, better give us some reliable information..."

I'm out of likes (curse you FFG like limit!) but this is a very good point. Gink does seem rather eager to quash all credibility PodRacer may have had, and tries to subtly reinforce that position.

I say if PodRacer does satisfy us with his claim we seriously consider lynching Gink. He's trying his darnedest to guide our thoughts and comments a certain way.

1 minute ago, Ginkapo said:

What I havent done is say:

"Hey if you claim 3rd party survivor I wont lynch you...." and at this point that does not match anything he has said so I wouldnt believe him.

His role is still original content.

All I said was use a pinch of salt with his answer.

That is FAR from what you said.

15 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

I do not know if genuinely thought you were being helpful or trying to help a mate, but you've completely destroyed any chance of getting reliable information from him.

3 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

All I said was use a pinch of salt with his answer.

One of these is a townie statement,

Gink, if you're town, start playing like it.

Stop twisting my words!

(As you would all say)

I said there is a possibility that your actions were scum motivated. I did not vote for you, i did not suggest you are scum, i highlighted a possibilty that should be considered as new information is gathered.

Why do you care? You are strongly overreacting.

Just now, Ginkapo said:

I said there is a possibility that your actions were scum motivated. I did not vote for you, i did not suggest you are scum, i highlighted a possibilty that should be considered as new information is gathered.

Why do you care? You are strongly overreacting.

:)

So what is it? Dropping scum breadcrumbs on me? or telling us that Podracer's answers should be taken with a grain of salt?

It is exactly as I thought. You were just laying a little scum breadcrumb to implicate me later. If you wanted to call out a scum then all you had to do was make that clear. A townie wouldn't have just bread-crumbed it.

##vote Ginkapo

And Gink's defense will be (Oh there he goes he's defending Pod). Nah, I'm ready to lynch his *** too.

1 minute ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

:)

So what is it? Dropping scum breadcrumbs on me? or telling us that Podracer's answers should be taken with a grain of salt?

Both

1 minute ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

It is exactly as I thought. You were just laying a little scum breadcrumb to implicate me later. If you wanted to call out a scum then all you had to do was make that clear. A townie wouldn't have just bread-crumbed it.

I am not calling you out as scum. Are you upset that I havent declared you 100% town, cause it sure feels like it.

Its D1.

Just seen your next post. Lynch Pod then.

Just now, Ginkapo said:

Are you upset that I havent declared you 100% town, cause it sure feels like it.

Nope, not at all.

My vote is just there after weighing all of the evidence.

Right now I rate the scummiest play as:

1. Gink

2. PodR/Truth

3. Ovinomanc3r

16 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

@GhostofNobodyInParticular had the anal-ysis best I think so far.

Regarding Pod:

Okay y'all the @PodRacer hammer train is full steam. Could it be that obvious?

Possibility One: He's town and dipped into the flavor role and hasn't protected his junk at all. Noob player? (We know how that goes after Caldias' slick penetration) His posts are just all over the place - especially the last few hours.

Possibility Two: He's scum and got way in over his head and didn't pull out in time. The problem with this is it is a horrible scum play. Could he be that bad a scum player?

Possibility Three: 3rd party fool hoping to get hammered. This sounds most likely to me. He seems to want us to hammer him.

Regarding others:

On that note, @Ginkapo and @TheToad certainly seemed to change their style over the last 24 hours. Probably a transition from the stupid "joke" phase, but I'm still concerned about it.

@Truthiness is also on my radar for the same reasons Ghost pointed to. The switch back and forth from pushing Gink, to following Gink, to now voting Gink is troubling.

15 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

So Biggs made his point, that this was probably going to be a crazy game. As you can see, Pod has very little interest in his own defense. I put the "flavor" stuff in there to show how it can be done while still playing the **** game.

Gink poses the Hooker role. Are there any other possibilities?

I'm ready to vote him because I just don't see how it hurts us. I think the possibilities are that he is either scum or 3rd party.

15 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Fine, I'll bite.

Which are you, scum, or 3rd party?

You basically said that "I am town" was not a believable answer for you and he was directly answering to you.

Maybe you missundertood me.

I pointed to the lack of credibility in the answer, not in the lack of credibility on you cause your question.

Not having more options any scum claiming third party was not even a risky move.

All I know is that he is not townie cause a townie wouldn't lie even if the true is not one of the options. Or at least I don't see why. I thank you that.

1 minute ago, ovinomanc3r said:

All I know is that he is not townie cause a townie wouldn't lie even if the true is not one of the options

That is my thought as well.

At this point Pod is either a really bad scum player or a 3rd party player that was trying to draw attention.

8 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

That is my thought as well.

At this point Pod is either a really bad scum player or a 3rd party player that was trying to draw attention.

So...hang him? I dont care if he meets his win condition.