1 hour ago, vonstryker said:

Can someone explain to me how TLT ignores biggs?

Can't soak up uncancelled hits and crits when they've all been cancelled.

TLT is still not brilliant though unless you've brought a tonne of them as this list can still make Biggles' defence pack a serious punch, and that TLT still has to hit.

8 hours ago, piznit said:

I'll gladly take the NPE of Ruthlessness TLTs. 3 point EPTs cancelled by not flying in a range 1 formation

If a 3 point EPT was all it took to make you not fly your Biggs, Jess, and Lowhhrick in Range 1 of each other, you're on the losing end of canceled abilities

Missfire.

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Using Gunner.

10 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

...how about something like:

Rexler Brath - Ruthlessness, TIE/D, Tractor Beam

Black Squadron Pilot

Black Squadron Pilot - Crackshot x 3

Swap the naked black for wampa. Biggs would hate that and some versions of the list have draw their fire.

Personally, i think the list is good for the game. If I were to face it, my imperial meta choice would be whisper with 2 tlts.

I know people are theory crafting against Biggs, Low, Rex and Jess but in the UK it's Biggs, Low, Rex and Stress-Braylan which removes the Ace counter.

Braylan: R3-A2 + Title + Ezra
Captain Rex
Low: Draw Their Fire + Wookies
Biggs: R2-D6 + Integrated
100 points

Damage reduction, three ships throwing three dice each with mods and dealing out stress. The alternative version replaces Ezra with Tactician for the double, some even put Tactician on Low for the 180 threat.

In a casual game, I smashed it using three gamma vets with Ruthless Assault Missiles but in a competitive setting that list just won't work.

I'm thinking a Ion Pulse Missile may be clutch here.

18 hours ago, Rinzler in a Tie said:

The question becomes, did the devs see this happening (yes, of course - who wouldn't pair Lowrrhick with Biggs), and if so, why?!

I have been watching SC livestreams all Weekend and this list is going to single-handily make us ask for more powercreep.

They talked about the Biggs/Lowrrhick combe in the preview article. Paul heaver, who created the list, was most likely part of the testing team for the wave. He starts playing with the build just after the release of the wave. 1+1+1=3....

Honnestly i dont understand the designers. They have a pilot hated by most players. They said themself that they regretted creating him. They decided to bring a ship that would make him harder to kill??

It's just like Nym. It was evident before release that he was OP. After playing many matches with and against him i can say hes even better than i thought. Whats funny is they gave imperial TLTs and then gave the other 2 factions the best possible counter to them.

17 minutes ago, Thormind said:

They talked about the Biggs/Lowrrhick combe in the preview article. Paul heaver, who created the list, was most likely part of the testing team for the wave. He starts playing with the build just after the release of the wave. 1+1+1=3....

Honnestly i dont understand the designers. They have a pilot hated by most players. They said themself that they regretted creating him. They decided to bring a ship that would make him harder to kill??

It's just like Nym. It was evident before release that he was OP. After playing many matches with and against him i can say hes even better than i thought. Whats funny is they gave imperial TLTs and then gave the other 2 factions the best possible counter to them.

I haven't had the pleasure of playing the Scurrg but have got to watch a TON of streams starring 100-point Biggs and holy ****..

We thought Triple Jumps pushed a lot out of the meta?! This list is waaay worse. Now we all want to play alpha strikes just to take out two out of four ships in this list.

Not only is impossible to kill Biggs, but good luck getting anything but Rex off the table -- IF YOU CAN ISOLATE HIM TO THE POINT WHERE HE'S EVEN AN OPTION SHOOT.
I like that formation flying is back but... Ugh. Maybe I'm just old and grouchy. Scratch that. I'm not even 30. This is just FFG and bad planning.

Ended up Taking two ruthless tlt aggressors and a rebel captive echo.

Darn near went undefeated all day. I finally put echo in a bad spot at the end of the last game vs. the other undefeated fella.

The ruthlessness tlt thing worked really well. Lots of squads want to be snuggled up next to each other or just ended up that way as they chased after one of the three ships.

Echo was good at dodging bombs and autoblaster. The ruthlessness took good sized bites out of the formation lists. Rebel captive to stop the expertise stuff.

Certainly the list could be refined....maybe sub out one of the TLT aggressors for...I don't know ....whatever. could maybe squeeze in a SF if that's your thing.

15 hours ago, Sparklelord said:

If a 3 point EPT was all it took to make you not fly your Biggs, Jess, and Lowhhrick in Range 1 of each other, you're on the losing end of canceled abilities

Kinda missed the point. That was in reference to someone saying that Ruthless TLTs (if it made people not fly That Rebel list) could possibly just be substituting one NPE for another. If it did, its one much more easily countered...not flying in range 1 formation. And thus not so much an NPE. Which is why I said I would take that

12 minutes ago, piznit said:

Kinda missed the point. That was in reference to someone saying that Ruthless TLTs (if it made people not fly That Rebel list) could possibly just be substituting one NPE for another. If it did, its one much more easily countered...not flying in range 1 formation. And thus not so much an NPE. Which is why I said I would take that

I did miss the part about not taking That Rebel list, yeah my bad.