I reckon the MC30 is reliably good with all the admirals available. It really does excel no matter who it's operating with, in comparison to pretty much all other ships that have preferences.

Building on Darth Sanguis, any love or advice for:

Shield Burner
Author: Ginkapo

Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 391/400

Commander: Commander Sato

Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Fleet Ambush
Navigation Objective: Navigational Hazards

MC30c Scout Frigate (69 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 80 total ship cost

[ flagship ] MC30c Scout Frigate (69 points)
- Commander Sato ( 32 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 112 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Bright Hope ( 2 points)
- Toryn Farr ( 7 points)
= 27 total ship cost

Assault Frigate Mark II B (72 points)
- Ruthless Strategists ( 4 points)
- Boosted Comms ( 4 points)
- Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points)
= 85 total ship cost

1 Norra Wexley ( 17 points)
3 Y-Wing Squadrons ( 30 points)
1 Tycho Celchu ( 16 points)
2 HWK-290s ( 24 points)

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Cant help but feel Keyan is amiss

17 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Building on Darth Sanguis, any love or advice for:

Shield Burner
Author: Ginkapo

Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 391/400

Commander: Commander Sato

Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Fleet Ambush
Navigation Objective: Navigational Hazards

MC30c Scout Frigate (69 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 80 total ship cost

[ flagship ] MC30c Scout Frigate (69 points)
- Commander Sato ( 32 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 112 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Bright Hope ( 2 points)
- Toryn Farr ( 7 points)
= 27 total ship cost

Assault Frigate Mark II B (72 points)
- Ruthless Strategists ( 4 points)
- Boosted Comms ( 4 points)
- Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points)
= 85 total ship cost

1 Norra Wexley ( 17 points)
3 Y-Wing Squadrons ( 30 points)
1 Tycho Celchu ( 16 points)
2 HWK-290s ( 24 points)

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Cant help but feel Keyan is amiss

You got 9 points! Paragon and OE on the AF. You won't be disappointed. Unless you're like me and miss the double arc.

However, I do think RS is a better option with the Y-Wings.

31 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Building on Darth Sanguis, any love or advice for:

Shield Burner
Author: Ginkapo

Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 391/400

Commander: Commander Sato

Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Fleet Ambush
Navigation Objective: Navigational Hazards

MC30c Scout Frigate (69 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 80 total ship cost

[ flagship ] MC30c Scout Frigate (69 points)
- Commander Sato ( 32 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 112 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Bright Hope ( 2 points)
- Toryn Farr ( 7 points)
= 27 total ship cost

Assault Frigate Mark II B (72 points)
- Ruthless Strategists ( 4 points)
- Boosted Comms ( 4 points)
- Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points)
= 85 total ship cost

1 Norra Wexley ( 17 points)
3 Y-Wing Squadrons ( 30 points)
1 Tycho Celchu ( 16 points)
2 HWK-290s ( 24 points)

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Cant help but feel Keyan is amiss

I can dig it.

Though, I don't know about taking Toryn over BCC, it's probably a good idea in squadron heavy metas gives all your ships good AA, but with only 4 bombers and no rerolls, Norra may not be effective. (the original version of mine had no BCC with 6 bombers and she only proc'd twice that game.) My 2 cents. Either way, sweet fleet.

Love it. I'd park Sato on the AF2 (the MC30's start at long but still want to get in close eventually, while the AF2 stays at long), and either find the points for BCC or spring for Paragon.

5 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

Building on Darth Sanguis, any love or advice for:

Shield Burner
Author: Ginkapo

Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 391/400

Commander: Commander Sato

Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Fleet Ambush
Navigation Objective: Navigational Hazards

MC30c Scout Frigate (69 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 80 total ship cost

[ flagship ] MC30c Scout Frigate (69 points)
- Commander Sato ( 32 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 112 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Bright Hope ( 2 points)
- Toryn Farr ( 7 points)
= 27 total ship cost

Assault Frigate Mark II B (72 points)
- Ruthless Strategists ( 4 points)
- Boosted Comms ( 4 points)
- Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points)
= 85 total ship cost

1 Norra Wexley ( 17 points)
3 Y-Wing Squadrons ( 30 points)
1 Tycho Celchu ( 16 points)
2 HWK-290s ( 24 points)

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Cant help but feel Keyan is amiss

Mothma would cancel your ACMs at medium range

And why no gold squadron? Twice the chance for crits and one less heavy squad.

1 hour ago, Matt Antilles said:

Mothma would cancel your ACMs at medium range

I think this is the list's biggest problem. You've got a pretty heavy assortment of squads and ships that will absolutely pound the snot out of any ship without an evade, but when it comes down to putting the necessary damage into MSUs, the list would seem to need a bit more volume.

I wouldn't use Paragon on this list, the AF is not maneuverable enough and wants to keep a certain distance anyway. Use Gunnery Teams, they work better in my experience.

Concerning Mothma: You can't build a list that covers everything. And she isn't THAT popular recently so the chances are low that you would encounter her.

1 hour ago, Norell said:

Concerning Mothma: You can't build a list that covers everything. And she isn't THAT popular recently so the chances are low that you would encounter her.

Although it is true that you cannot build a list to cover everything, and it may be true that she isn't THAT popular recently, the lists and players that run her tend to be EXTREMELY good.

So if you're a mid-tier player you just want to compete in the mid-tier, then by all means, concede a Mothma match and clean house. Two 10-1s and a 1-10 is 21 points, which is probably good for top 1/3 in a big event, and probably top 4 in a small one.

But if you're trying to win the whole event, and there are quality builds out there and top notch players who fly them, then you're pretty foolish if you don't consider exactly how you're going to play against them.

And I'd say it isn't just Mothma, its any high evade list, whether that's Cracken staying at long range with CR90s or someone running Madine MC30s. If you've only got one crit at medium range and he makes you reroll it, you're going to lose a significant amount of your crit procing.

5 hours ago, Vergilius said:

I think this is the list's biggest problem. You've got a pretty heavy assortment of squads and ships that will absolutely pound the snot out of any ship without an evade, but when it comes down to putting the necessary damage into MSUs, the list would seem to need a bit more volume.

I am kind of relying on the Ywings to do their thing against MSU. You guys are right that small ships are the problem. However, small ships dont tend to come with a squadron escort.

On 7/20/2017 at 7:10 PM, Ginkapo said:

Alright, I took a 6 month hiatus from MC30s because I was obsessed. For me they left.

Tried them out with External Racks? They can hit even harder now. 6 Black (Racks and Con Fire) and 2 blue from the side, with H9's auto accuracy a Brace. Max potential of 13 damage. Will average around 9 + an accuracy with H9's.

Then a front arc with 4 Black's and a Blue. Average 4 dmg with Acc.

40 minutes ago, KovuTalli said:

Tried them out with External Racks? They can hit even harder now. 6 Black (Racks and Con Fire) and 2 blue from the side, with H9's auto accuracy a Brace. Max potential of 13 damage. Will average around 9 + an accuracy with H9's.

Then a front arc with 4 Black's and a Blue. Average 4 dmg with Acc.

Isn't External Racks a "while attacking, you may discard...", so the second front attack wouldn't benefit from the card discarded on the previous attack?

4 hours ago, GammonLord said:

Isn't External Racks a "while attacking, you may discard...", so the second front attack wouldn't benefit from the card discarded on the previous attack?

Both attacks are "While attacking" so shouldn't it add to both? If not it's still good to either throw from the side or have two 4 black dice attacks. Edit: Never mind just re-read the card, I thought at first when reading it'd apply to both attacks I somehow got it in my head as something along the lines of before declaring attack/s discard this card (Which would apply to both)

Been playing a lot of X-wing, Armada and Destiny lately. Playing 3 different FFG systems each with different timings, rules, etc sometimes hard to get the right ones with the right game.

6 minutes ago, KovuTalli said:

Both attacks are "While attacking" so shouldn't it add to both? If not it's still good to either throw from the side or have two 4 black dice attacks.

Only adds to one. Which is why APT and ACM are still better on it assuming you can set up the double arc.

Been looking at two torp hammerheads with broading troops, get the activities count, target move in hammerheads set off BT then mc30 finishes it off

Dropped Reinforced Blast Doors plus a Ywing and added Green plus Gold.

Round 1

6-5 against Demo Arq Arq Goz Goz Jerry 100pt ace ball.

Sato is awesome. 6 black dice with ACM one shots an Arq. 5 black with a blue acc criples Demo.

Squadrons lasted the game somehow, although by the end only tycho and Ciena were alive. Killed Valen Howl Dengar Mauler Jendon through perseverance. Long live Toryn.

Took a no squads Ackbar 30 list to a tourney yesterday and did great... The 30's had oe, racks, enhanced armament, that's it! Home one supplied accuracies(sorry sensor teams)... Best shot of the day was 13 damage 2 acc versus a nearly untouched liberty... R'Ackbar is no joke!

7 minutes ago, SkyCake said:

Took a no squads Ackbar 30 list to a tourney yesterday and did great... The 30's had oe, racks, enhanced armament, that's it! Home one supplied accuracies(sorry sensor teams)... Best shot of the day was 13 damage 2 acc versus a nearly untouched liberty... R'Ackbar is no joke!

From what I was told, You also made a good Meta-call - lucking out a bit with the fact that most of the Imp players there were Sloane-Heavy and lacked a True Bombing Wing to threaten the '30s.

31 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

From what I was told, You also made a good Meta-call - lucking out a bit with the fact that most of the Imp players there were Sloane-Heavy and lacked a True Bombing Wing to threaten the '30s.

Where is rhymer???? Where are you friend??? In what far reaching system have you been banished too??? I think rhymer is spending most of his days patrolling sheep farms on Some imperial backwater... That's a shame!

Second round against Sato 4x APT hammerhead, APT Scout MC30 and Gr75 with Shar Tycho 4Awings.

Hammerhead one shotted a MC30 at close range. 4 hit crit blacks with Struct Damage APTs.....

But then I cleared the Awings and shut Sato down. The Assault frigate still fell to ramming, but 6-5 as just the MC30 lived on his side.

Final round against an ISD with Demo Arq and Goz. Squad cover was just 5 Tie Bombers.

2 hwks and Green enjoyed the squad game. Most wanted and Ywings....

New player so...

9-2.

Saturday I convinced a friend of mine to try a list I built based around a MC30. He'd been really down on the game lately. He'd lost his last 7 games badly, 5 of those games against the same list I was running and he hadn't managed to kill more than 1 TIE Interceptor in any of those games. He not only won the tournament but he kicked the crap out of me with that monstrous MC30. He last firsted in on me and that evil little shrimp of his hit my Vic for 12 damage and 1 Accuracy plus APT. My poor pitiful Vic was left with 1 hull point left and died to a ram. I ended up second and he ended up with a fancy plaque and a bye at regionals. That will teach me to help him build a list for a tournament I'm also playing in.