Bringing Sexy Back (MC30 style)

By Ginkapo, in Star Wars: Armada

It is my observation (from the forums alone), that players are a little obsessed with ISD's (*cough* Boarding Trooper Avenger *cough*), Sloane Quasars and larger ships in general. Now in my mind, this means it is the perfect opportunity to bring MC30s back into the mainstream! Speed 4 into their backside, and unload! With ECM's at an all time unpopularity accuracies are also more useful than ever.

Under normal circumstances I would just pop out MC30's with Ackbar, sensor teams and enhanced armaments. However, that is very helpful for running Hammerheads alongside sadly and I want to test that ship out.

So here is my question:

What commander are we all running MC30's with and what loadout?

Edited by Ginkapo

Praise be to the 30. I've been running titles, RBD, OE, and APT with Mon Mothma. XI7 or H9 to taste. I have, in this Sloany meta of ours, considered going cluster bombs instead of RBD because it bypasses defense tokens.

Well... I think it's wrong to assume that they ever left.

I'm personally still surprised about all this Avenger/Boarding troopers hotness. It is an interesting concept, but it's still an one-off trick that is relatively easy to avoid/counter.

1 minute ago, PT106 said:

Well... I think it's wrong to assume that they ever left.

I'm personally still surprised about all this Avenger/Boarding troopers hotness. It is an interesting concept, but it's still an one-off trick that is relatively easy to avoid/counter.

Alright, I took a 6 month hiatus from MC30s because I was obsessed. For me they left.

How exactly are we bringing back something that never left? The MC30 has been one of the best ships in the game since flotillas arrived at the very least and they remain quite good.

Most common build I see is the Torp MC30 with H9s, ordnance upgrade (usually APTs), Ordnance Experts, title, and cheapo officer (Lando, Skilled First Officer, whatever).

I've been running 2 Mc30s with ACMs and Sato alot, it's been tearing the bigger ships to nothing. The bomber support on this fleet is just enough to chew through most shields before the ACMs hit, With 3 blacks and rerolls I'm getting 4-5 damage through even after they brace it down. Mc30's are still, by far, my favorite rebel craft. they just kill it.



Sato's 'sploders Mk.IV
Author: Darth Sanguis

Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 392/400

Commander: Commander Sato

Assault Objective: Opening Salvo
Defense Objective: Fleet Ambush
Navigation Objective: Superior Positions

[ flagship ] MC30c Scout Frigate (69 points)
- Commander Sato ( 32 points)
- Foresight ( 8 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 120 total ship cost

MC30c Scout Frigate (69 points)
- Admonition ( 8 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- Advanced Projectors ( 6 points)
- Assault Concussion Missiles ( 7 points)
= 94 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Boosted Comms ( 4 points)
- Bomber Command Center ( 8 points)
= 30 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Comms Net ( 2 points)
= 20 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Comms Net ( 2 points)
= 20 total ship cost

2 X-Wing Squadrons ( 26 points)
1 Norra Wexley ( 17 points)
3 Y-Wing Squadrons ( 30 points)
1 Tycho Celchu ( 16 points)
1 Jan Ors ( 19 points)

I think the scout Mc30s got hit a little with the change to TRCs, but overall, not going to complain. Those things punch above their weight class. I'd say the biggest hindrance to them being successful is deployment and movement in-game. A Mc30 will still get ripped apart if it goes Toe-to-toe against a VSD or ISD. Swing wide, hit the side arc and you're fighting on even ground.

6 minutes ago, Snipafist said:

How exactly are we bringing back something that never left?

I get it, I never left! But enough of that, lets stay on topic. MC30's!

The Leia movement was pretty neat. Being able to change 2 speeds and +1 yaw. There might be some use for Leia and MC30s. Repair 1 card and gain a shield, extra die and reroll for CF. Leia would also let you activate squads more easily with the fabled GR-75+EHB. It was effective for Caldias until his flots died.

Leia if you want activated squads.
Mothma if you want defense.
Sato for shenanigans.

1 minute ago, ricefrisbeetreats said:

Swing wide, hit the side arc and you're fighting on even ground.

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I have dreams of 30s. There's other ships out there, but built right they hit like a truck and blow up all sorts of opponent's ships. I need to play Mothma double 30 again, so much fun knowing you can follow Admo up with his angry little brother. I've got a very crazy Mothma double 30 triple HH list that I've been debating....

21 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

I get it, I never left! But enough of that, lets stay on topic. MC30's!

Hey I gave you a build! I talked about MC30s!

I'm still running my MC30 Torpedo with OE/APT/H9/Admo title. If I run a second, it has Lando/OE/APT/H9.

The mc30 is flat out one of the best ships in the game.

i run one in my Madine list. I've run two. In Mothma and Dodonna lists. In fact, garels honor in a Dodonna list with mc30s is a good way to get the activation count you need to make good use of the title.

leia should theoretically work, and likewise a rieekan ship list. Ackbar is still good as you proved a long time ago. Sato has to be built to proc black critical effects at red range.

im not sure I've seen anything that majorly changes them as an archetype. It's solid and reliable. Caldias placed one of them in the top 8 at worlds. A result that was bound to happen with at least one mc30 list.

My standard MC30 is Torp/OE/ACM/Title

If Mothma, title is Foresight (and it is usually my flag). If anyone else, Admo

+1 for "MC30s never left" train

My current squeeze is 2 MC30 Scouts with OEs, TRCs, and external racks with a Home One and Ackbar. Aside from the decent 4 red dice at long range with TRCs + Home One Accuracy, the close range attack with a CF command will throw 6 black dice + 4 red dice is disgusting. It has a good chance of killing medium ships outright.

1 minute ago, GalacticFister said:

+1 for "MC30s never left" train

Me too

Madine for admiral then a torpedo frigate with Admo, OE, APTs, H9s, and RBDs makes flotillas and quasars pop and lands in the most unexpected positions.

Admo... I never leave home without it. I'm thinking of playing mothma, double 30, double HH (I want to try them), and double flotilla, if I can get a game in soon lol

I'll +1 the '30s never left train.

I tend to run most ships with a minimal/maximum approach: put minimal upgrades to fit the maximum number of ships*. So my standard MC30c build is a torpedo frigate with OE+APT. And of course, I run 'em with Dodonna. When I run Mothma (seldom, admittedly), I then add the titles. I've also experimented with Ackbar 'phins, and those are fun, but those appear exclusively in 3 ship lists, where I have a Christmas Tree sub.

* useful ships. This normally comes out to 4: 2 dolphins, an MC80, and 1 transport for BCC. Sometimes if I feel like experimenting I'll proxy a 3rd dolphin.

+1 mc30 train never left

I only ran AvengerBT as something to try out and thankfully never faced a mc30 train!

Two of 'em with Mothma, 1 OE, APT, Admo, Walex and either H9 or XI7, the 2nd same with Foresight and either Derlin or Lando, used as flag ship. Love 'em.

Madine

MC30#1: Admo, Lando, AP, OE, APT, H9

MC30#2: SFO, AP, OE, APT, H9

It's an interesting time for the Rebs, since that need for a replacement with the Rieekan zombies nerf seems to have created a rise in Imperial players.

While i usually play Imperial I'm a bit drawn to what Leia can do especially when mixed with the new Hammerheads and old stalwarts like the MC30. To me her Admiral ability sure pairs nicely with the 30, that with the store championship season we could see some fun AARs featuring some sort of good rebel post Rieekan build.

New FAQ and all, we're back to a good place with the game. ... Alas if only the Flesh Star Destroyer was still cruising the space lanes to tell us all about it....

My next fleet brawl will have 2 MC-30's represented-a torp frigate with OE, APT's and ECM's, and a scout with OE, ECM, TLRC and External Racks.

Madine, now and forever. Cracken and Mon Mothma are for amateurs.