I'm currently running a game on Weik so I decided to draft up Alternate Force Traditions for the Paladins of the Adamantine, Skyholme Astromancers, Lucites, and Cendiary Priests. Ya know, for my players. I decided to give it a bit of layout work as well.
Thought some of you guy might like it.
Really nice work, I love the Alternate Force Tradition rules.
Yes, these are really cool, and love the faux-FFG aesthetic! There should be a fan supplement full of alternate Force traditions, like the Unofficial Species Menagerie.
12 hours ago, SavageBob said:Yes, these are really cool, and love the faux-FFG aesthetic! There should be a fan supplement full of alternate Force traditions, like the Unofficial Species Menagerie.
You know, I actually was thinking of that. I got my old Star Wars SAGA books that have a bunch of Force Tradition write-ups and most of them wouldn't be too hard to do. But, some might just end up a little boring. Like, the Krath would just end up with a XP cost reduction to Force: Misdirect and the Sith Lord's drawback since it's basically just the Sith Arts specialized into Sith Illusions.
But, yeah, I might sit down and do that at some point, if there is interest in it. I've recently got InDesign for my own unreleated RPG projects and working on this homebrew's layout has been a useful learning experience.
Regardless, glad that both of you liked it!
Edit: Reading through these old books for idea, it's kind of funny running into ones WotC obviously made up themselves.
Edited by CovokI would love to see what people come up with for stuff like this! The only reason I didn't include Weik in Disciples in the first place, is that when I went to Nexus of Power, it seemed like the drawbacks were already made pretty clear, and with such limited space, I didn't want to reprint material that was already halfway built for people.
I think perhaps I would have made one of them require spell ingredients as their draw back. Also I don't see why the Astromancers get Protect/Unleash? It doesn't seem to fit their style, or I'm just missing something completely. Farsight seems like it would be better wouldn't it? perhaps even Suppress?
19 minutes ago, Richardbuxton said:I think perhaps I would have made one of them require spell ingredients as their draw back. Also I don't see why the Astromancers get Protect/Unleash? It doesn't seem to fit their style, or I'm just missing something completely. Farsight seems like it would be better wouldn't it? perhaps even Suppress?
I'm not sure how I would model spell ingredient in the system, though. In my experience, that usually gets handwaved away by the GM in most D&D games so it wouldn't be much of a drawback. That's why I went more with a charge thing. One could argue that their "preparations" involves gathering spell ingredients and the charges represent uses of those ingredients. It was meant to be purposefully vague.
As for the other part, Protect/Unleash is to mimic, as Skyholme Astromancers take inspiration from fantasy wizards, fireball, magic missle, shield, and other such spells. They also do get a cost reduction to Forsee. I ran off the flavor text and basically went "they seem to care alot about seeing the future (forsee) and their D&D wizards (fireball, shield, etc)." My reading may not be universal, though, and I completely understand someone disagreeing. The flavor text is a bit purposefully vague (likely due to wordcount) and there is no onscreen/book/comic reference to go off of so there is likely to be a lot of different interpretations of these Force Traditions.
1 hour ago, KRKappel said:I would love to see what people come up with for stuff like this! The only reason I didn't include Weik in Disciples in the first place, is that when I went to Nexus of Power, it seemed like the drawbacks were already made pretty clear, and with such limited space, I didn't want to reprint material that was already halfway built for people.
Did not expect a dev reply. Just want to say I listened to your interview on the Order66 Podcast so thank you for getting these rules into the book. You were absolutely correct: Alternate Force Tradition rules are something I've been looking forward to popping up for sometime and I imagine I'm not alone.
Edited by CovokAhh, now I get it. What if they also got a Conflict reduction for the use of Unleash? Perhaps the first 2 Conflict as the Sages in DoH. They only have a 40xp savings and 30xp drawback.
13 hours ago, Covok said:I'm not sure how I would model spell ingredient in the system, though.
Gear?
13 hours ago, Covok said:I'm not sure how I would model spell ingredient in the system, though. In my experience, that usually gets handwaved away by the GM in most D&D games so it wouldn't be much of a drawback. That's why I went more with a charge thing. One could argue that their "preparations" involves gathering spell ingredients and the charges represent uses of those ingredients. It was meant to be purposefully vague.
It would depend on how the ingredients need to be gathered. Are they for sale? Then a simple credit cost per use of a spell might work, or require a Negotiation check to find them in the market. Are they gathered? Require a successful Survival check to stock up, with each uncanceled success equivalent to one use's worth. Or, just handwave ingredients completely, but treat a Despair on a combined Force check as being like the "out of ammo" result for blasters.
17 minutes ago, SavageBob said:It would depend on how the ingredients need to be gathered. Are they for sale? Then a simple credit cost per use of a spell might work, or require a Negotiation check to find them in the market. Are they gathered? Require a successful Survival check to stock up, with each uncanceled success equivalent to one use's worth. Or, just handwave ingredients completely, but treat a Despair on a combined Force check as being like the "out of ammo" result for blasters.
I like this idea. My favorite parts of this system is using the secondary results to replace (what I consider) needless bookkeeping.