Some may have already asked this...my apologies if that's the case. Which claim does Red Vengeance use when it goes off? Does it use the claim from the winner of the challenge (who effectively must satisfy claim to his own plot card) or does it use the opponent's? If the latter, which opponent's plot card is used in multi?

Assuming it's the former, this means that if I play Red Vengeance after my opponent wins a power challenge, I cancel his taking my power but he then takes power from himself...giving himself power in return, so there's zero change in power (other than possibly a power for unopposed). So I would not get any power from his house card, right?

Red Vengeance makes the winner of the challenge settle the claim, filling the roles of both winner and loser.

So the attacking player's claim value is used and in a power challenge, the attacking player moves power from his House card to ... his House card (for no net movement).

The same happens with Doran Martell's ability if you let your enemy fulfill his/her own claim as well, there is no net movement of power, except different claims where on the table. Is this correct?

C

That's correct. I don't know what do you mean by "different claims", though. The claim doesn't really matter in this scenario.

eloooooooi said:

What he means is that with Red Vengeance, you use the attacker's claim number (as you normally would) and with Doran, you use the defender's claim number (as specified on the card). In power challenges, that doesn't matter too much. In other challenges, it could.

Ktom you interpreted my confuse statement right.