Are the lessness upgrades fair?

By Mrk1984, in X-Wing

So we have Ruthlessness, which always adds an extra damage to another ship at range one (friendly included) if you hit for 3 pts

Then came Fearlessness, add a hit if you are range 1 and in arc for 1 pt

Finally there's Selflessness, discard to absorb all regular hits from a friendly at range 1 for 1pt and unique

All of them match perfectly for their name, but R uthlessness is the big loser here at 3 points. Fearlessness is useless on low PS, and will often require repositioning which leaves an unmodified shot.

Selflessness is oddly a Biggs buff when everyone is calling for him to be nerfed (so they can fix the T-65). If not a Biggs buff it's a way to introduce a cheap Biggs into a list 18 for a Green or 16 for a Sabine Tie.

22 minutes ago, Mrk1984 said:

Selflessness is oddly a Biggs buff when everyone is calling for him to be nerfed (so they can fix the T-65). If not a Biggs buff it's a way to introduce a cheap Biggs into a list 18 for a Green or 16 for a Sabine Tie.

Selflessness is not a Biggs replacement. The reason that Biggs does so well is because he can force bad shots and split fire. Often times you're left in the opening engagement having half your team shoot at the threat at R2, and the other half shooting at Biggs R3 through a rock. If you replace Biggs with Selflessness, you're still going to take that R2 shot on the main threat, and that poor little 4 health A wing in the back is going to end up soaking up all of that damage and going poof. Whereas Biggs might have taken a damage or two.

Selflessness can potentially buff Biggs, but at a horrible cost... Unless you're running Biggs, a threat, and a Selflessness card, you're nerfing your main threat by extending the potential life of Biggs at the expense of the life of your main threat. You'd be better off running DTF in all honesty if you wanted to syphon off just a bit of damage onto Biggs, but that hasn't been a staple of the meta since... well, ever.

Where you might see Selflessness be used is on a high health ship like the Ghost , er, I mean Y Wing , er... Forgot they don't have EPTs, then the K Wing ... nope that won't work either... Well, I guess the B wing, haha, like anyone plays with a B wing, nevertheless a named one... or Azuituck.. Hey a ship that might use it! But I could see it supporting Corran Horn better than Biggs does. Corran doesn't really need Biggs' protection most of the time - he can PTL for F+E (FCS for TL) and R2D2 for a shield, so it's difficult to get meaningful damage on him. But if he blanks out, he can be dead. Enter Selflessness, which when he blanks out, you can redirect all of that damage to his wingmate, allowing him to play the dice and not get screwed.

Edited by Khyros
1 minute ago, Khyros said:

Points adjusted on the A wing.

The OP had it right when he priced it at 18. The Green Squadron Pilot starts at 19 points, or 17 points with a refit. A Proto clocks in at 15, but can't take an EPT.

2 minutes ago, PhantomFO said:

The OP had it right when he priced it at 18. The Green Squadron Pilot starts at 19 points, or 17 points with a refit. A Proto clocks in at 15, but can't take an EPT.

Yah, I'm a fracking idiot... and I've even had my coffee this morning, so there's no excuse.

Selflessness isn't a complete Biggs replacement, but if you don't have 26 points for Biggs, but you don't want your ace/heavy hitter to go down in the first round of fire, it's easier to fit 16 or 18 points into a list. There are several lists I have that I had to scrap if Biggs couldn't absorb a shot because I didn't have the points, but now they are able to survive an opening Salvo.