Say you are using the following:
Whisper-Intensity-RS-SPA
You decloak, get an evade, and flip Intensity to get an evade. Then do a focus action and get two. You have two focuses and two evades, more than enough for defense. After you make an attack get another focus. Pretty much guaranteed to get Intensity back this round. Next round you could cloak and try to come around for another pass.
Or you could put on ACD. You get one less evade but get to do this pretty much every round.
RR p 8.
"Decloaking is not an action or a maneuver. "
So the decloak barrel roll cannot trigger Intensity.
1 minute ago, Arschbombe said:RR p 8.
"Decloaking is not an action or a maneuver. "
So the decloak barrel roll cannot trigger Intensity.
A barrel roll or boost isn't a maneuver either, and that's what decloaking is: performing a 2-straight boost or a speed 2 barrel roll. Intensity triggers on a boost or barrel roll.
Intensity triggers on a boost or barrel roll action. Decloak is not an action.
Read the card, people.
2 minutes ago, EdgeOfDreams said:Intensity triggers on a boost or barrel roll action. Decloak is not an action.
Read the card, people.
Alright, I just wanted to figure out if it was doable.
Wishing for a real positive Imp tool in this wave is admirable @Celestial Lizards ?
Switch the Recon out for Kallus and I think you still end up in a decent spot. Against your marked target you'll have almost the same amount of offense/defense with double evade and Kallus. Just use your normal action for Barrel Roll to get the second evade token.
It isn't as powerful against someone you haven't marked, but whoever you called out is going to have a bad time.
This ruling and the double decloak off advanced sensors and I think we're close to making SPA work!
ACD has always been the phantoms problem.
Also, to ruin the fun some more: you can only spend 1 evade token per attack. So the double evade is rather redundant.
Edited by ModernPenguinthe decloak reposition is neither a boost nor is it a barrel roll. therefore no intensity being triggered.
Um. RR p.8 again:
"When a ship decloaks, it must choose one of the following effects :
1. Perform a barrel roll using the [^2] maneuver template.
2. Perform a boost using the [^2] maneuver template. "
The reason this won't work is because the decloak rolls and boosts are not Actions. Intensity specifies boost and barrel roll Actions as the trigger.
Would it break anything? Would it give the phantom a chance to do somthing than decloak at PS9?
Intensity is perfect for kit kanos...
It actually does work, because even if decloaking isn't an action, the barrel roll you do during it is technically a free action so Intensity still triggers. Hee hee!
4 minutes ago, Celestial Lizards said:It actually does work, because even if decloaking isn't an action, the barrel roll you do during it is technically a free action so Intensity still triggers. Hee hee!
except you aren't performing a barrel roll, you are decloaking. Intensity won't trigger.
Just now, Ravncat said:except you aren't performing a barrel roll, you are decloaking. Intensity won't trigger.
The card says you may remove the token, then perform a two straight maneuver or a speed 2 barrel roll.
6 minutes ago, Celestial Lizards said:It actually does work, because even if decloaking isn't an action, the barrel roll you do during it is technically a free action so Intensity still triggers. Hee hee!
No, it really doesn't.
2 minutes ago, Celestial Lizards said:The card says you may remove the token, then perform a two straight maneuver or a speed 2 barrel roll.
at the risk of going in circles - that's when it tells you precisely that it's not an action or a maneuver. FFG had to have a way to tell us how to actually decloak, and fit it on the card - which is why we don't see a longer "use the two speed maneuver template to decloak to the left or right, and you may place that template at the front or back of the left side as long as the template itself remains within the bounds of the left side of the ship - as if performing a barrel roll. You may also decloak forward by placing the template ...." We know how to perform barrel rolls and maneuvers already. Sure. thats RAI - but you still have an RAW thing happening...
"Each ship may spend a token to
decloak
"
"after all decloaking has been resolved"
note the bolded keyword - decloak is not a boost or barrel roll, it's a decloak!
4 hours ago, ModernPenguin said:Also, to ruin the fun some more: you can only spend 1 evade token per attack. So the double evade is rather redundant.
You can be attacked more than once though, and it can be used to recharge intensity at end of turn (I mean, Whisper's ability also helps there, but even so).
Non-action maneuvers are always confusing. Well, non-action anything.
That aside, as Ravncat said, it isn't really a barrel roll or boost, it just uses the same mechanics. The idea is that, since it was cloaked, when it decloaks, the ship is not where the enemy thought it was. That is also why it isn't an action.
Edited by KnightcrawlerOn the topic of Phantoms, I would like a title that gives a free cloak action at the start of the end phase if you were not damaged that round. This could make the low PS phantoms with SPA a possible ship to fly. You would get the free focus/evade often enough without using your previous round to cloak.
On 7/15/2017 at 0:10 PM, ModernPenguin said:Also, to ruin the fun some more: you can only spend 1 evade token per attack. So the double evade is rather redundant.
No it's not, you might get shot at by more then one ship in a round.
14 minutes ago, Icelom said:No it's not, you WILL get shot at by more then one ship in a round.
On 16/7/2017 at 1:09 AM, Polaritie said:You can be attacked more than once though, and it can be used to recharge intensity at end of turn (I mean, Whisper's ability also helps there, but even so).
You can, but generally speaking as an arc dodger you don't want to be shot at, at all.
The argument however was that it was as defensive as 4 greens with focus and evade. To that I say nay!
Also, getting an evade from intensity to flip intensity is rather silly in my head.