As enthusiastic as I am about Poetensity, it's hard for me to overlook the fact that you get to spend 40+ points on a ship that's still quite horrible offensively. Being able to change one eye to a hit isn't exactly groundbreaking :/. Target lock is a must have I think, especially for R1 shots, but then without evade he's too squishy for the points, arrgh. I'm starting to think that comm relay might be better than primed thrusters, but that's a 43 point Poe...

I've played a game or two against this poe build.

It's pretty strong. I also like that it doesn't rely on regen. So flying is important instead of running away constantly to get your shields back.

On 14/07/2017 at 2:12 PM, Herowannabe said:

I just love that people are now talking seriously about running Poe with BB-8 in competitive games. Now it we could just get Luke to be remotely viable with R2-D2...

(and for the love of the force can we please not call it "poetensity?" *shudder*)

...Intensapoe?

56 minutes ago, Tom1132 said:

...Intensapoe?

On 7/14/2017 at 7:26 AM, Stevey86 said:

59 points to play with. If only Dash or Rey could fit in there...

You could actually fit Rey:

57 points

PILOTS

Rey (57)
YT-1300 (45), Expert Handling (2), Finn (5), Kanan Jarrus (3), Millennium Falcon (Segnor's Loop Version) (1), Smuggling Compartment (0), Burnout Slam (1)

And you can play around with the EPT if you wanted to. Maybe give her some flechette missiles.

Edit: Oh I see wut u did thar with the winky face.

On 7/14/2017 at 11:06 AM, Wiredin said:

I will see your Intense Poe, and raise you to Intense Horn!

Corran Horn (35)
Intensity (2)
Fire-Control System (2)
BB-8 (2)
Engine Upgrade (4)

Total: 45

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Why not both? Slap R2-D2 on corran and give both ships some torps watch your list crumple in 5 turns to kylo ren....

37 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

Why not both? Slap R2-D2 on corran and give both ships some torps watch your list crumple in 5 turns to kylo ren....

hahahahahha that so crazy... done

So the Mynok Squadron "Plot Armor" build for Poe is interesting and it apparently has some legs:

PS9 Poe, R2-D2, Intensity, Autothrusters, Comms Relay, Black One title. 45 points.

I used BB-8 with Comms relay instead of Primed thrusters on a Vassal test. I'm torn. 1) I love being able to boost after a K turn or T-Roll to fire up intensity to get a focus for some Poecus. 2) I love to be able to barrel roll next turn even with a stress token to fire up intensity and that sweet pre-maneuver repositions.

BUT

Comms relay allows you to hold on to an evade which is like a 3 point rechargeable damage mitigation upgrade. Also holding an evade also lets Poe focus on his Intensity, and then TL for more mods OR take another focus for defense to make him even tankier.

Right now I'm leaning towards Comms relay. BB8 Comms relay Poe is 43points.

im just glad Poetensity cant include a cruise missile....

52 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:

So the Mynok Squadron "Plot Armor" build for Poe is interesting and it apparently has some legs:

PS9 Poe, R2-D2, Intensity, Autothrusters, Comms Relay, Black One title. 45 points.

I used BB-8 with Comms relay instead of Primed thrusters on a Vassal test. I'm torn. 1) I love being able to boost after a K turn or T-Roll to fire up intensity to get a focus for some Poecus. 2) I love to be able to barrel roll next turn even with a stress token to fire up intensity and that sweet pre-maneuver repositions.

BUT

Comms relay allows you to hold on to an evade which is like a 3 point rechargeable damage mitigation upgrade. Also holding an evade also lets Poe focus on his Intensity, and then TL for more mods OR take another focus for defense to make him even tankier.

Right now I'm leaning towards Comms relay. BB8 Comms relay Poe is 43points.

I ran the BB8/Primed Thrusters variant last night, and really dug it. Went 1-1 at the FLGS, with the first game being a total loss (Poe managing to get himself crashed on an asteroid in a move I call "Pulling a Poe-rkins") and second game being a near-total victory. I self-inflicted on myself by forgetting to grab debris tokens instead of asteroids while playing with Dash.

It runs somewhat leaner at 41 points, which left room for a SuperDash58 build. With Primed Thrusters, I really wasn't missing the Comms Relay that much. I just judged each round as they came, and took target locks or evade tokens as needed based on the situation.

On 7/15/2017 at 9:04 AM, Lightrock said:

As enthusiastic as I am about Poetensity, it's hard for me to overlook the fact that you get to spend 40+ points on a ship that's still quite horrible offensively. Being able to change one eye to a hit isn't exactly groundbreaking :/. Target lock is a must have I think, especially for R1 shots, but then without evade he's too squishy for the points, arrgh. I'm starting to think that comm relay might be better than primed thrusters, but that's a 43 point Poe...

Poetensity Poe is not an easy ship to take down, if flown competently. Flown anything less, and yeah, that was probably a lousy way to throw away 43 points. However, keeping him alive is very much possible, and now he just has to help take down the weakest ship in your list.

You'll see him paired with other ships that either do more damage or survive just as well, and it's a war of attrition... That they have a very good chance of winning.

But yeah, one mistake or really, really lousy dice roll and blammo.

As an Imperial player, though, that last line resonates with me, for some reason.

10 hours ago, BlodVargarna said:

So the Mynok Squadron "Plot Armor" build for Poe is interesting and it apparently has some legs:

PS9 Poe, R2-D2, Intensity, Autothrusters, Comms Relay, Black One title. 45 points.

I used BB-8 with Comms relay instead of Primed thrusters on a Vassal test. I'm torn. 1) I love being able to boost after a K turn or T-Roll to fire up intensity to get a focus for some Poecus. 2) I love to be able to barrel roll next turn even with a stress token to fire up intensity and that sweet pre-maneuver repositions.

BUT

Comms relay allows you to hold on to an evade which is like a 3 point rechargeable damage mitigation upgrade. Also holding an evade also lets Poe focus on his Intensity, and then TL for more mods OR take another focus for defense to make him even tankier.

Right now I'm leaning towards Comms relay. BB8 Comms relay Poe is 43points.

BB-8/PT Poe is so much fun to fly, though. So much fun, don't think I could make the switch.

You guys are making me wish I had HotR so much. Poetensity sounds like my dream of an X-wing.

39 minutes ago, TheHumanHydra said:

You guys are making me wish I had HotR so much. Poetensity sounds like my dream of an X-wing.

It's true, all of it.

I have been switching back and forth between bb8 and r2d2 Poe. I am finding that I am more offensive and more maneuverable with bb8. This saves me more than the number of hp I'd regen with r2d2. Could be bias, luck, or flying style - but for now at least, bb8 is my wingman wingdroid.

Now if only I could learn to fly Dash...

I may try throwing other ships together to partner with Poe.

On ‎7‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 7:04 AM, wurms said:

Poetensity is sweet sweet music the rebels have always wanted with their aces. The man is a beast and just like the films now.

Stress? He dont care.

(41) PS9 Poe w/ Intensity, BB8, Primed Thrusters, AT, BlackOne

Incredible. Flying over debris, then boost and get a focus. Kturn or tallon then boost and get a focus. Dont even have to do a green maneuver next round. 2 sharp, boost, and get ur focus.

"Stressed? Im doing a 3 turn, boosting and getting my focus, son!"

So so nice. Fell in love with Poe after 1 game. Its like having Snaps ability combined with Poes.

He flew all across the map like a god, dropping TLs on friendlies, not giving a **** about debris.

He was a predator after his prey. And he was hungry!

However annoying BB-8 Poe ends up being, it's still not regen Poe. Ultimately, BB-8 Poe will take damage and die.

Comm Relay, Intensity, R2-D2, Autothrusters, Black One. All day.

48 minutes ago, SaltMaster 5000 said:

However annoying BB-8 Poe ends up being, it's still not regen Poe. Ultimately, BB-8 Poe will take damage and die.

Comm Relay, Intensity, R2-D2, Autothrusters, Black One. All day.

There are pluses and minuses to both. R2d2 poe is easier to block and cant do red maneuvers, cant fly over debris. Bb8 poe can go anywhere and do anything, and can erase two TLs as apposed to r2d2 build that can only erase one. I like both builds, depending on the list.

I have seen both do good already, taking store champs.

I just want to know why upgrades in Imperial expansion packs are more useful in the other two factions than the faction it came in.

35 minutes ago, Warlon said:

I just want to know why upgrades in Imperial expansion packs are more useful in the other two factions than the faction it came in.

As revenge for forcing imperial players to buy Awings for PTL and Starvipers for Autothrusters.

3 hours ago, Warlon said:

I just want to know why upgrades in Imperial expansion packs are more useful in the other two factions than the faction it came in.

While OT, Intensity Vader seems totally rad.

5 hours ago, SaltMaster 5000 said:

However annoying BB-8 Poe ends up being, it's still not regen Poe. Ultimately, BB-8 Poe will take damage and die.

Comm Relay, Intensity, R2-D2, Autothrusters, Black One. All day.

I'd argue that this Intensity Poe is probably better with PS8 Poe. It's not going to dodge arcs without BR and doesn't care if it gets shot first as much. The two point saved can be used to offset this build's astronomical cost.

On 14.7.2017 at 3:32 PM, GreenDragoon said:

I agree. My own way to go is with Jake (who is in almost every squad I make) and a stressship. I'm still torn between those two:

Jake Farrell (24)
Push the Limit (3)
Cruise Missiles (3)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Autothrusters (2)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Intensity (2)
BB-8 (2)
Primed Thrusters (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Gold Squadron Pilot (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
R3-A2 (2)

OR

Jake Farrell (24)
Push the Limit (3)
Chardaan Refit (-2)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Autothrusters (2)
A-Wing Test Pilot (0)

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Intensity (2)
BB-8 (2)
Primed Thrusters (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Braylen Stramm (25)
Baze Malbus (3)
R3-A2 (2)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

I can't make space for a gunner, so I'm not sure about Baze or Tactician, either. But I prefer the Y-Wing build for the moment, because of cruise missiles and the turret. And no, I won't add the title because I suck at flying Y-Wings

I like the first list a lot. Any advice on how to fly it?

I have played this list yesterday. It was great fun and worked pretty well.

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Intensity (2)
BB-8 (2)
Primed Thrusters (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Captain Nym (Rebel) (30)
Expertise (4)
Synced Turret (4)
Sabine Wren (2)
Bomblet Generator (3)

Captain Rex (14)

Total: 98

4 hours ago, BlodVargarna said:

I'd argue that this Intensity Poe is probably better with PS8 Poe. It's not going to dodge arcs without BR and doesn't care if it gets shot first as much. The two point saved can be used to offset this build's astronomical cost.

The PS is to move after K4 Dengar and remove his target lock with Black One.

5 hours ago, Stefan said:

I like the first list a lot. Any advice on how to fly it?

Played it just this week and it was glorious!

I set up Poe and Jake together on one side, and Stresshog in the middle. Jake went very fast, Poe fast (but slow enough to recharge intensity!) and Gold relatively slow.

My idea was to have the stresshog flying tangentially to his target just within range 3.

Poe basically jousts.

And my Jake somehow never dies, so I do not try to force the cruise missiles. Instead I keep him alive and arcdodging and use the missiles when the time is right (tm). This can include a 5Kturn if you have the targetlock. And this threat is very nice! So I would not change my whole flying behavior just for 3 points. Instead I treat them as a bonus that I don't need at all cost.

edit: almost forgot to add: I then switched to commrelay r2d2 poe for 45, gaining a small initiative bid and not using cruise missiles anymore. Which means I don't have to fly differently now, too. Just played one game with this Poe, regenerated/prevented 6 damage by r2 and evade, and won easier. I think it's the better build but less fun.