Custom Upgrades to Make X-wings Competitive Again

By AwesomeJedi, in X-Wing

On 7/20/2017 at 11:00 AM, Gilarius said:

Taking away barrel roll will make little difference: if you want it to work with torpedoes, it needs to still allow guidance chips to be taken - and Integrated Astromech too, perhaps.

On 7/20/2017 at 2:14 PM, AwesomeJedi said:

The idea was to be an alternative to Integrated Astromech, not join it.

@Odanan, can I have your permission to use your T-65B X-wing ability as a jouster ability to put on my Assault Retrofit card? It is the best ability I can think of without being broken.

I changed my mind and the artwork on this card. Which would be better now that I allowed modifications to be taken?

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So, @AwesomeJedi, you asked my opinion of this on another thread. First off, I think this would be OP on T70's, which, honestly, would not be all that of a bad thing, but we want T65's, so I'm just going to assume that it would be T65 only?

On topic, I think that as long as it is 65 only, the 4 would be better.

Edited by gryffindorhouse
My response made no sense.
2 hours ago, gryffindorhouse said:

So, @AwesomeJedi, you asked my opinion of this on another thread. First off, I think this would be OP on T70's, which, honestly, would not be all that of a bad thing, but we want T65's, so I'm just going to assume that it would be T65 only?

On topic, I think that as long as it is 65 only, the 4 would be better.

Why would it be OP on T-70 X-wings?

Because triple t70s have actually seen some play, which means that they are somewhat usable, and the non-biggs 65s aren't. Aka, 65s need more of a fix than the 70s.

Perhaps the -2 point one could be the 70 fix, and the -4 point the 65 fix?

On 7/26/2017 at 9:26 PM, gryffindorhouse said:

Because triple t70s have actually seen some play, which means that they are somewhat usable, and the non-biggs 65s aren't. Aka, 65s need more of a fix than the 70s.

Perhaps the -2 point one could be the 70 fix, and the -4 point the 65 fix?

Is there a way I could go about this without another card? Or is another card for the T-70 the only way to go?

12 minutes ago, AwesomeJedi said:

Is there a way I could go about this without another card? Or is another card for the T-70 the only way to go?

Or, should I just make the Assault Retrofit for T-65 X-wings only? And if so, how would I go about it? Just Rebel Alliance only?

7 minutes ago, AwesomeJedi said:

And if so, how would I go about it? Just Rebel Alliance only?

"Errata" X-Wings from SWX01, SWX02, and SWX11 to have the type "T-65 X-Wing" instead of "X-Wing". Existing X-Wing Only upgrades still work with both T-65's and T-70's due to naming conventions, and now you have design space for T-65 X-Wing Only cards just like Black One is T-70 X-Wing Only.

4 minutes ago, kris40k said:

"Errata" X-Wings from SWX01, SWX02, and SWX11 to have the type "T-65 X-Wing" instead of "X-Wing". Existing X-Wing Only upgrades still work with both T-65's and T-70's due to naming conventions, and now you have design space for T-65 X-Wing Only cards just like Black One is T-70 X-Wing Only.

I feel like FFG doesn't enough to do something like that.

Its a simple fix, and sad that FFG has been sitting on their thumbs about fixing it for some time. But who cares what they are doing as far as the topic of this thread is concerned; you are making homebrew cards for your own games, so implement the fix in your own games.

16 minutes ago, kris40k said:

Its a simple fix, and sad that FFG has been sitting on their thumbs about fixing it for some time. But who cares what they are doing as far as the topic of this thread is concerned; you are making homebrew cards for your own games, so implement the fix in your own games.

Your right and I am overreacting. I'll just fly casual.

Edited by AwesomeJedi
Missing apostrophe.

I am going to change the name of Assault Retrofit to Assault Refit after reading the definitions of retrofit and refit. I am also changing the art on that card to the art below.

http://www.deviantart.com/art/The-Defense-of-Yavin-4-521262589

I am making a new upgrade card with this art.

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Nebulon-B-607101323

I have two different wordings for this card but I want a second opinion. I am leaning towards Option 1. Which do you think is better?

Option 1:

Escort Refit

X-wing only.

You may equip the "Vectored Thrusters" upgrade card without paying its squad point cost.

Torpedo

Squad Point Cost: 0

Option 2:

Escort Refit

X-wing only.

Your upgrade bar gains the barrel roll action.

Torpedo

Squad Point Cost: 0

Edited by AwesomeJedi

Updated the top. New cards added.

On 7/13/2017 at 8:57 PM, Cubanboy said:

HOTAC Facebook group has some really solid upgrade cards inline with above.

Got a link. Facebook search can't find it.

These cards are actual size.

If you copy these cards and paste the in Microsoft Word or Google Docs, they can be printed on A4 size paper, or done professionally if you care that much.

If you need the backs of the cards, here they are. If you guys want, I can create a Google Doc with the cards on them ready to print so you guys don't have to do any work.

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I like option 2, you can still equip IA, or if you so desire, EU.

9 hours ago, GLEXOR said:

I like option 2, you can still equip IA, or if you so desire, EU.

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Done.