1 hour ago, ovinomanc3r said:

So it must be different command (as type of) tokens but not tokens of different command. Right?

Two squadron tokens are the same as each other.

A squadron and a nav token are different from each other.

1 hour ago, Ardaedhel said:

Two squadron tokens are the same as each other.

A squadron and a nav token are different from each other.

To choose two different ships allow me to choose two ISDs.

I mean it is just that I could see the way Hondo could point to tokens on the table.

I don't care too much which way it works as long as they make it clear. But with the token shuffling would be a really good counter BTAvenger.

12 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

To choose two different ships allow me to choose two ISDs.

I mean it is just that I could see the way Hondo could point to tokens on the table.

I don't care too much which way it works as long as they make it clear. But with the token shuffling would be a really good counter BTAvenger.

Not really.

BTVenger would account for it the same way it accounts for everything, if its worth its salt.

Because if its enemy generated, the timing doesn't apply fast enough.

12 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

Not really.

BTVenger would account for it the same way it accounts for everything, if its worth its salt.

Because if its enemy generated, the timing doesn't apply fast enough.

He works at the start of the ship phase. If BTAvenger hopes on his token it is done. I mean, slicer + hondo seems easier than slicer + ICB. But was just a thought after talking about a fleet with a friend. He likes trigger just with a token and I was just figuring out possible counters to help him with the build. If Hondo would work "moving" tokens he could remove squadron tokens from Avenger. As long as there is not more than 2 squadron tokens in play it could work.

4 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

He works at the start of the ship phase. If BTAvenger hopes on his token it is done. I mean, slicer + hondo seems easier than slicer + ICB. But was just a thought after talking about a fleet with a friend. He likes trigger just with a token and I was just figuring out possible counters to help him with the build. If Hondo would work "moving" tokens he could remove squadron tokens from Avenger. As long as there is not more than 2 squadron tokens in play it could work.

And any Avenger BT worth its salt has either the command directly, or its own token generation. IE, Veteran Captain. Which everyone else ignores.

8 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

And any Avenger BT worth its salt has either the command directly, or its own token generation. IE, Veteran Captain. Which everyone else ignores.

Yeah. I tried to explain but he wanted the points on anything else (not bad spent but not as important I think). After he took the crit that discard all your command tokens and you cannot gain anymore I suppose he will learn the lesson.

Btw. IE?

16 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Finally I found this topic.

I probably won't bring here nothing new but I would like to ask this cause my knowledge of English is not great. Basically my line of thinking goes through the fact that adjectives don't modify adjectives. Command is a noun but here is working as an adjective and as such is treated so, shorty: different cannot modify command. Would not be "two different command s" then?

This way all we know is that the tokens must different tokens not tokens of different commands. If that is true, then to choose from the "token pool" have no sense with that limitation.

Just a thought.

This is straightforward.

You grab 4 tokens from the supply, one of each of the 4 types.

Then you assign 2 of those to two different ships.

Then you hand the remaining 2 to your opponent, who assigns them to 2 different ships.

6 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Btw. IE?

i.e. definition . An abbreviation for id est , a Latin phrase meaning “that is.” It indicates that an explanation or paraphrase is about to follow: “Many workers expect to put in a forty-hour week — i.e. , to work eight hours a day.” (Compare e.g.)

1 hour ago, Drasnighta said:

i.e. definition . An abbreviation for id est , a Latin phrase meaning “that is.” It indicates that an explanation or paraphrase is about to follow: “Many workers expect to put in a forty-hour week — i.e. , to work eight hours a day.” (Compare e.g.)

Lol I was thinking on an upgrade

On a related note, are we talking two by two different ships or four different ships?

45 minutes ago, Cremate said:

On a related note, are we talking two by two different ships or four different ships?

Two players, two different ships each.

2x2=4

3 hours ago, Green Knight said:

Two players, two different ships each.

2x2=4

Not really. You choose two tokens and place them on two different ships. After this the opponent take the missing two and place them on two different ships.

But no one says that the ships have to be 4 different ones. The opponent can (no idea why he want to) place his two tokens on the same ships you placed your two.

This is really important (or interesting) when your opponent has only one ship left. He HAS to place the two tokens. And if he does not have enough ships, he has to choose yours. But he can choose the same one as you already did.

I have seen a situation where both players were both down to 1 ship, in round 6, and both of them had Hondo on that ship.........

... so many Tokens were placed and discarded...

See, I think it can be read either way. I've played it as four so far, but would be interested in hearing how others have been doing it.

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