Splintering this off from the AR app discussion to try and pull it out of the spiral it's in...

Let's here your thoughts here!

Personally, the only time I pull my phone out during gameplay is to have the wiki readily available for the most updated rules (doesn't really help when I'm playing in my friend's basement which is basically a fallout shelter and there's zero signal down there, but not the point) and ask who ever I'm playing with if they care if I check a text or call that I missed (usually while we're both setting dials which doesn't take that long anyway). Aside from that (or changing the music that's playing), I don't touch it and that's during casual play. If I ever go to something more serious, my phone is in my pocket during a match.

Are you playing X-Wing with me or are you talking/texting/playing/whatever on your phone instead? If you want to play X-Wing then lets play instead of spending our time doing other 'it.

You have it out so you can OCCASIONALLY reference the rule/FAQ you may not know that is fine as long as you aren't doing it constantly. Getting outside help? Not good! Need to check out a text you just got? Maybe ok for you to read in the first time but if it's repetitive it will become aggravating VERY quickly. REPLYING to text messages and the like during a game? You'd better check with me first and meet some "importance threshold" and then keep it short as we pause for you; repeat this and things start getting ugly. Actual calls; you can probably answer them but they'd better be important and short.

We don't have a spoken rule about it at my FLGS, bit generally speaking, if it doesn't disrupt the game, no one seems to mind. And as a courtesy, most people ask first anyway about taking a call or taking a pic.

The only time we've had someone playing music was when a famous musician died (George Michael is the most recent example I can conjure) or as background music during X-cart/Mario-cart.

I'll ask my opponent if they mind when I absolutely have to take a call - and normally warn them about it before the game begins. I tend to set dials within 15 seconds, and my FLGS' regulars take several minutes, so I can send a quick text then without affecting game play at all, but I keep that to once or twice a game.

I'd draw the line at doing anything on a phone outside of the planning phase (excepting rules checks, naturally), as it just bogs the game down.

Better than having something else out during the game.

For me the key is whether the person is using the phone for game related stuff (consulting cards, FAQs, measuring, rolling, checking statistics, whatever) as a way to enrich the game, or for something totally unrelated like listening to music, chatting with the girlfriend, checking Facebook, etc.

The phone is a multipurpose tool and I don't have anything against it at all. It all depends on the use of it.
It's the same as if the opponents would bring out a printed bunch of FAQ pages and would browse thru them while I am moving my ships. I wouldn't mind at all because they are doing it to improve the game experience.
But it would be much different if instead they would bring out a book and started reading it while I move my ships.

In that case, it would feel like my opponent is not willing to engage in a friendly match and have a good time together, but instead, they are kind of using me as a sparring or flesh-bot, because they don't have any readily available AI to play against instead. Or they just wish to defeat me and get over with it, no need of human interaction beyond that.

It's so cold and impersonal that sucks all the fun out of it.

Gotta check those opponents dials

If it's slowing down the game then yeah it's annoying and shouldn't happen. If not, who gives a ****. They ain't gonna cheat in a casual match. Also like myself I got clients that email me throughout the day I gotta respond to, if my opponent is taking his time thinking and my dials are set I'm gonna go on my phone to check then get off of it once he or she decides finally.

Some of you worry about some weird stuff.

If the phone isn't slowing down the game, who cares?

REPLYING to text messages and the like during a game? You'd better check with me first and meet some "importance threshold"

Ooooookay tough guy.

In casual games I don't mind the phones because it has never been a problem. I mostly play against adults who use phones for work related things and when the phone rings we just stop the timer for a moment. My phone is always on the table because I use it as a timer and for documentation (I take pics of the table before and after every combat phase so I can analyze the game afterwards. Naturally I ask if it's ok with the other player.).

Tournaments are held usually during weekends so there are no work related calls to answer. Also there is no time for documentation.

i'm a culprit of this, i occasionally text my wife or friends and check up on their progress during games, however i only do this whilst my opponent is setting dials as I do not wish to disturb them and their thought process and as soon as they say they are ready, i am 100% back on board, watching, helping and freely talking or making pew pew noises.

That being said, if my opponent is actively engaging, not taking forever to decide on that boost or barrel roll silently, i won't have my phone out, period.

Also, in my experience, I can set my seven dials faster than someone can set two, then waiting around for two or three minutes each time does get boring, especially if I cannot talk to the tables next to me or my opponent for what ever reason. So whilst I appreciate that I may come across as rude, if my opponent isn't talking or is contemplating his next move, what am I suppose to do, sit there quietly and wait/stare at him/her, out of respect? I mean, i'm playing a table top game, not sitting at a funeral.

Guess what I am trying to say here is, it greatly depends on my opponent.

I'm not against it, I often use my phone to look up my opponents ship dials and rule queries during a match, as well as take photos. I don't use it for texting or social media when I'm playing though, I like to keep my focus on the match at hand. But I also try to get my dials set as quickly as I can and try hard to not dither on choosing an action.

As a general rule; I'll ignore my phone whilst playing. It's got this great feature where I can look at who called and then call them back when it's convenient. However; I may have some important issues in my life which are a bigger deal to me than playing plastic spaceships. In these circumstances; I would endeavor to explain to my opponent before we get playing this may come up and I may have to take a call or reply to a message or two. Should they have an issue with that; we just won't play.

I always take out my phone. Some people set dials like buying engagement rings.

I could literally have a game of clash royale and these blokes are still busy deciding their bridesman maneuver by the time I finish the game.

3 minutes ago, Grivoire said:

I always take out my phone. Some people set dials like buying engagement rings.

I enjoy messing with those people. Once they've finally set their dials, I'll change at least one of mine, and take a minute doing so.

I play casual and we (4 of us) have our phones out all the god **** time. This is because we use list builders and not cards (apart from pilot cards)

I could not care less about someone having a phone out, especially in casual play, as long as it isn't effecting the game. As long as it is not continually slowing pace of the game down, no problems here.

Mines out all the time. Looking up rules questions, answers, and taking pictures. I have the FAQ and tournament rules on my phone and in print with me at all events. Not a big deal like some of you make it seem.

I've had many games ruined by this. These were my thoughts from the other thread;

Na. I'm not down for prompting you to take your turn, to stop watching that YouTube video or ask you politely (for the 5th, 6th, 7th time) to please put down the phone so we can play a game. That's what we're here for; your phone will still exist when it's over, I promise.

You may not think it's impacting your performance or the enjoyment of the game for others; but the vast majority of the time, it does, whether you realize it or not. People like this tend to be oblivious to how their actions affect others. It communicates that you don't care about the game or the other person's time.

So, for the sake of ONE HOUR (or slightly more), show that you have some restraint and respect and leave it in your pocket. What have you got to lose? An hour's worth of phone time? No big loss. You can do that any time.

If that's too hard, sorry to say, but you may have an attention span problem.(or maybe you're just a jerk, who knows?)

Note: All of that refers to people using their phones for any purpose besides an emergency or for the sake of the game (rules, dials etc.)

Phones out ruin HotAC for me. Had one really bad NPE with it and we haven't gone back out yet. Especially when you're using it to shop amazon for your next ships....

For 100/6, I think it depends. I try to not use my phone as much as possible, and only answer important things (and I'll explain what's going on to my opponent as well, as a courtesy).

I have 2 small kids so on game night i have my phone on but on silent, i keep it in my pocket and if it vibrates i look at it to see if its the babysitter or my wife, i'll then ask if its ok and then call them back.

New app or not, phone should not be allowed while playing. Nothing more frustrating than waiting for someone to finish his turn because he is texting.

nothing more frustrating than playing with people who complain about mutual respect but don't afford it themselves

Playing casual? Its a game. I am there for fun and came to play but my family is more important than any game and if my family calls or txts I am going to at least glance at the phone to see whats up and may answer with apologies to my opponent.

Competitive play? I let the family know ahead of time that I will be unavailable and they should not disturb me unless its an emergency and they are good about remembering that. So if they actually do call, I am going to answer because I know its an emergency. Other than that, I will have my phone on hand to look up an FAQ if needed but it is otherwise put away on silent mode.

Short version: When I'm playing you, the most important activity is what's going on in front of you right now. I will treat you with the same respect.

Longer version: I don't mind if someone pulls out a phone to clarify a rule; that means we're both involved in the discussion. Do it, and put your phone away. If you get a call from your significant other, it's probably important and you need to take it. If you get a call from work, you probably need to take it. Other than that, leave your phone in your pocket. Or in your back pack so you're not distracted by random texts.

I play dominoes at work during lunch breaks. There is one person who keeps her phone out the entire time while she's playing, doing Instagram, FB, and whatever. Nothing to me shows more disrespect than showing that some random posting on the Internet is more important to you right now than what you're doing right in front of you. Put your phone away and play the game. Be social. I can honestly say I've never had the same experience playing X-Wing yet, but I imagine I would feel the same way. Put your phone away and interact with the person in front of you (me). Have a conversation. Talk about the game. Talk about your list. Ask questions. If you want to play a computer stay home and use an online game when nobody cares what you're doing in between turns.