5 minutes ago, GandofGand said:Maybe they won't be converted whole-cloth, but some of the Legends stuff has Crept into Canon...well at least Thrawn has...its start...8)
It will need to show up in the shows or in the movies first. Dave Filoni already told fans not to get too excited about KOTOR making its way into Rebels .
20 hours ago, Desslok said:Well, looks like the fanmade Rebels Sourcebook just got made obsolete.
I only worked a very tiny bit for Rancor Publishing Group, but I admit this news hurt my feelings a bit.
Given the experiment with the FORCE AWAKENS Beginner Box, I would have guessed they'd try out that setting for their first book.
7 hours ago, HappyDaze said:Since this is for all three lines, it would be a wonderful place for a few Universal Specializations to appear. I know nothing about this product, but this would be my hope.
Agreed. I've been wanting more love for the generic specializations for some time now.
20 minutes ago, BrickSteelhead said:I only worked a very tiny bit for Rancor Publishing Group, but I admit this news hurt my feelings a bit.
Well, y'all did good work and I can't wait to see the new book so I can compare and contrast any overlapping content (if any - we still don't know how much Rebels stuff is going in) and see how close you got.
26 minutes ago, Desslok said:Well, y'all did good work and I can't wait to see the new book so I can compare and contrast any overlapping content (if any - we still don't know how much Rebels stuff is going in) and see how close you got.
Seconded!!
Personally I thought it was a great piece of work & especially useful seeing as my last & also upcoming campaigns are set in that period.
I love that fact that so much is unknown about what happened after The Empire took control, so it gives plenty of scope for a small band of rebels to carve out their own place in the battle against oppression, without having to worry about what happened in the films!
I'd be surprised to see any "official" stats for any characters as FFG has been reticent to officially stat any characters from Star Wars to this point. I am looking forward to checking out this book since i am using Dawn of Defiance as my basis for a campaign.
5 hours ago, GandofGand said:Most of the Dark Horse comics stuff is blah at best, excepting maybe Tales of the Jedi (part of which HAS been included in FFG material already; Ulic's Grave in NoP).
Clearly you never read John Ostrander's Quinlan Vos/Clone Wars books. There's a reason George Lucas took notice and included first Aayla Secura and then Quin and even Bly to his films and series. In fact, FFG's writeup on Ryloth in the core EotE book was 100% based on Ostrander's work. Plus, the man made me freaking love the Devaronians. No small feat!
While I quite like RotS, I really only became a fan of the Clone Wars era due to the efforts of Ostrander, Genndy Tartakovsky, and Dave Filoni (working in conjunction with Lucas).
Oh, and I agree the early Tales of the Jedi material that led into KOTOR was quality stuff, as was the Dark Empire trilogy.
Dark Empire? Where Luke becomes Palpatine's apprentice? And Palpatine summons starship-eating space vortices? Eh.
Beautiful art, though.
DE as a story was pretty awful, do agree on the art.
I stopped reading the Novels after the YV section ended...so no I have not read any of the Clone Wars era books.
22 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:Dark Empire? Where Luke becomes Palpatine's apprentice? And Palpatine summons starship-eating space vortices? Eh.
Beautiful art, though.
Yeah. That's almost as bad as turning an entire planet into a star-eating, planet-busting superweapon.
51 minutes ago, Harlock999 said:Clearly you never read John Ostrander's Quinlan Vos/Clone Wars books. There's a reason George Lucas took notice and included first Aayla Secura and then Quin and even Bly to his films and series. In fact, FFG's writeup on Ryloth in the core EotE book was 100% based on Ostrander's work. Plus, the man made me freaking love the Devaronians. No small feat!
While I quite like RotS, I really only became a fan of the Clone Wars era due to the efforts of Ostrander, Genndy Tartakovsky, and Dave Filoni (working in conjunction with Lucas).
Oh, and I agree the early Tales of the Jedi material that led into KOTOR was quality stuff, as was the Dark Empire trilogy.
I love me some Ostrander writing...but just can't take Quinlan Vos. Of all the things to survive the continuity purge and stay in canon, he has to be one of them?
5 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:I love me some Ostrander writing...but just can't take Quinlan Vos. Of all the things to survive the continuity purge and stay in canon, he has to be one of them?
Well, technically, he was canon anyway. His first appearance was in The Phantom Menace on Tatooine.
23 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:Well, technically, he was canon anyway. His first appearance was in The Phantom Menace on Tatooine.
Nope.
Actually, not technically, they selected a background character from TPM to base his appearance on. Later retcons making that character Vos don't change that.
Now, if you really wanted to play hair-splitting continuity cop, a name drop about "Master Vos" in RotS, then later appearances in TCW made him already canon. Even at that, my bewildered dismay that, of all the things that could have been brought into canon, and he was one of them remains the same.
5 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:Nope.
Actually, not technically, they selected a background character from TPM to base his appearance on. Later retcons making that character Vos don't change that.
Now, if you really wanted to play hair-splitting continuity cop, a name drop about "Master Vos" in RotS, then later appearances in TCW made him already canon. Even at that, my bewildered dismay that, of all the things that could have been brought into canon, and he was one of them remains the same.
Regardless of the "how", TPM was still his first appearance. and thus, made him canon.
Love dark empire, love crazy Sith magic...
Edited by TheShard1 hour ago, Nytwyng said:I love me some Ostrander writing...but just can't take Quinlan Vos. Of all the things to survive the continuity purge and stay in canon, he has to be one of them?
Backing the debate up about technicalities, he wasn't affected by the "purge" at all, since he was already in official canon materials (The Clone Wars) as of 2010. So he really only "survived" as much as Obi-Wan Kenobi or Saw Gerrera "survived"—that is to say, he was never relegated to Legends to begin with.
43 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:Regardless of the "how", TPM was still his first appearance. and thus, made him canon.
This appearance isn't what canonized Quinlan Vos as a character: this unknown character's appearance in TPM was only canonized as Quinlan Vos in Ultimate Star Wars , which was published in 2015, a year and a half after the EU became Legends. And Quinlan Vos had already been introduced into the canon thanks to TCW in 2010.
That said; even though this appearance isn't what canonized the character, it is what inspired his creation in the first place. So there is that.
Edited by awayputurwpn1 minute ago, awayputurwpn said:This appearance isn't what canonized Quinlan Vos as a character: this unknown character's appearance in TPM was only canonized as Quinlan Vos in Ultimate Star Wars , which was published in 2015, a year and a half after the EU became Legends. And Quinlan Vos had already been introduced into the canon thanks to TCW in 2010.
That said; even though this appearance isn't what canonized the character, it is what inspired his creation in the first place. So there is that.
No. It is what canonized him. That was his first appearance. Regardless of when he was named , his first appearance is what made him canon.
1 minute ago, Tramp Graphics said:No. It is what canonized him. That was his first appearance. Regardless of when he was named , his first appearance is what made him canon.
Okay man...you wanna mess with the space-time continuum; that's on you. I won't be party to it—if popular entertainment has taught me anything, it's that you don't mess with the space-time continuum.
Unless you're this guy.
Uh-oh; the proverbial gloves have come off.
This thread amuses me.
41 minutes ago, kaosoe said:This thread amuses me.
Word.....
2 hours ago, awayputurwpn said:Backing the debate up about technicalities, he wasn't affected by the "purge" at all, since he was already in official canon materials (The Clone Wars) as of 2010. So he really only "survived" as much as Obi-Wan Kenobi or Saw Gerrera "survived"—that is to say, he was never relegated to Legends to begin with.
A fair enough point. (And one presented far more reasonably. Thanks for that.) So, as I did in my last post, I'll rephrase to, of all the characters to transition from EU to canon, they had to pick this one?
2 hours ago, Tramp Graphics said:No. It is what canonized him. That was his first appearance. Regardless of when he was named , his first appearance is what made him canon.
By this logic, this
is the first appearance of Venom.
2 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:By this logic, this
is the first appearance of Venom.
Nope, technically it was here....
