There are about 4 Store Championships in my area coming up over the next month and there are a number of newly released cards have unresolved questions about what is legal.

I thought it might be a good idea to summarize those here as a pre-cursor to (hopefully) getting an updated FAQ. This is not meant for debate of particular issues, but just to summarize all the things we'd like to see answered. I will post a few of the ones I know and feel free to add more. (Maybe FFG will see this and address some in the next FAQ...)

1) If Cikatro Vizago is used to replace a Cloaking Device upgrade on a ship that is cloaked, does the ship remain cloaked until the cloak token is removed from the ship?
2) Can a ship with Pulsed Ray Shield take an Ion token to allow a 1 straight maneuver the next turn - even if it cannot recover any shields? (Ref: Garven Dreis/R5-P9)
3) Can ships other than the one equipped with Jabba the Hutt discard Illicit tokens instead of the Illicit Upgrade cards when instructed to discard?
4) If Jabba the Hutt Crew card is discarded from a ship, can Illicit tokens placed on upgrade cards still be discarded instead of the upgrade cards?
5) Can a squad with Minefield Mapper discard Extra Munitions tokens as well as equipped Bomb Upgrade cards to allow placement of bomb tokens?
6) If you use Minefield Mapper to place Cluster Mines tokens in the play area, are the tokens placed together as a set or can the 3 tokens be placed individually?
7) Does a Focus action create two opportunities for Jake Farrell to use his pilot ability?
8) If Jake Farrell performs a Focus action and Jan Ors Crew assigns an evade token instead of a focus token to his ship, can he still perform a free boost or barrel roll action?
9) Is pre-measuring maneuvers during the planning phase allowed?
10) If Pattern Analyzer is used to resolve the "Check Pilot Stress" step after the "Perform Action Step," when is the maneuver execution considered to be complete?
11) Can the Genius Astromech be used to drop a bomb after executing a white 1 straight maneuver as a result of the ship being ionized?
12) If a ship equipped with Cruise Missiles executes more than one maneuver in the same round (such as via Daredevil), which maneuver's speed is used to determine the number of attack dice for the Cruise Missiles?
13) Is Sabine Wren (crew) a mandatory effect that must be used on the first friendly bomb that detonates each round or is it at the option of the player?
14) If the "Ghost" title is discarded from the VCX-1000, does that ship still retain the additional attack abilities from a docked ship equipped with the Phantom Title?
15) Are game effects that "instruct a player to spend a target lock" and "spending a target lock" considered to have the same meaning for the purposes of using Targeting Sychronizer? Specifically, can a ship spend the target lock token of a friendly ship equipped with Targeting Synchronizer to re-roll attack dice in the "Modify Attack Dice" step of Combat? (Request for clarification of the answer provided on page 22 of FAQ Version 4.3.2)
16) Can Targeting Sychronizer be used for non-combat abilites, such as Lieutenant Colzet's ability?
17) No timing step is specified for Lt Kestal's ability. What timing should it have?
18) If Palpatine is declared on the lightweight frame roll, can you then proceed to change any result in your result pool? (i.e. the die/dice previously rolled).
19) Rebel Nym: If you use his ability on a bomb to prevent detonation, does that prevention persist through the round or only for that opportunity?
20) Scum Nym: "When a friendly ship is defending, if the attacker measures range through a friendly bomb token, the defender may add 1 evade result." Is this a case of only 1 added evade per bomb token or only one total added evade – similar to obstructed attacks?
21) Can Cikatro Vizago be used to switch to a unique upgrade that has been discarded by another ship? (Such as Cloaking Device.)
22) Is Lowhrick's ability considered to be him modifying a friendly ship’s dice, or is it done by the friendly ship? (Ref: Omega Leader)
23) Can a cloaked ship use feedback array?

24) A ship has Deadeye, has target locked a ship other than Biggs and also has a focus token. Assuming the locked ship is at range 1 of Biggs, can the attacking ship attack the target locked ship with a secondary attack that requires a target lock, OR is the attacking ship required to use Deadeye to attack Biggs?

Might as well add: Does a Focus action create two opportunities for Jake Farrel to use his pilot ability? If not, why not?

Also, do Jabba and Extra munitions tokens still work if the card is discarded in any way.

33 minutes ago, digitalbusker said:

Might as well add: Does a Focus action create two opportunities for Jake Farrel to use his pilot ability? If not, why not?

I sort of see what you are saying, (I assume the question involves - I perform the action so I get a barrel roll, then I get the token from the action so I get to boost?) But this one seems really cut and dry. Since it is "OR" isn't this one of those once per opportunity situations? a single action can only trigger the card once, so even if you are being REALLY pedantic, about the phrasing of "assigned a focus token" you can only trigger it once, so you couldn't get both a boost and barrel roll from just that focus action. I'm not looking to open a debate in this thread as I assume there is one out there already, I am just really surprised this is even in question.

How many rules arguments are you trying to start in one thread?

The original Core Rulebook prohibited measuring maneuvers during the planning phase. The TFA Rules Reference does not explicitly prohibit measuring; it only says maneuvers are chosen secretly. Does the change constitute permission to measure maneuvers during the planning phase? I want the answer to be NO, but I'm concerned the answer could be yes. I'd like to see an errata of the Rules Reference to include an explicit prohibition of pre-measuring maneuvers.

I think it's safe to assume this entire forum's last 8 pages (at least) could be viable options for rules questions. The tiny agent of chaos inside me wants to run in here, yell "WHEN IS A MANEUVER CONSIDERED EXECUTED WHEN PATTERN ANALYZER IS INVOLVED?" and then drop the mic and run away.

5 minutes ago, xbeaker said:

I sort of see what you are saying, (I assume the question involves - I perform the action so I get a barrel roll, then I get the token from the action so I get to boost?) But this one seems really cut and dry. Since it is "OR" isn't this one of those once per opportunity situations? a single action can only trigger the card once, so even if you are being REALLY pedantic, about the phrasing of "assigned a focus token" you can only trigger it once, so you couldn't get both a boost and barrel roll from just that focus action. I'm not looking to open a debate in this thread as I assume there is one out there already, I am just really surprised this is even in question.

I believe the question is before that.

Jake says "when you perform a Focus Action or are assigned a focus token..."

Well, when you perform a Focus Action, you are then assigned a focus token... So both happen, and both are technically independent triggers for his ability, meaning, reading the card exactly how it's worded, it could be interpreted that he gets to trigger his ability twice off of the single Focus Action.

I think that's clearly not RAI, but, the more I read the card, the more I see the argument. I put it in the same bracket as the Jabba and, previously, Aggressor title questions... but yeah, it's worded poorly.

11 minutes ago, jmswood said:

How many rules arguments are you trying to start in one thread?

18 minutes ago, jmswood said:

The original Core Rulebook prohibited measuring maneuvers during the planning phase. The TFA Rules Reference does not explicitly prohibit measuring; it only says maneuvers are chosen secretly. Does the change constitute permission to measure maneuvers during the planning phase? I want the answer to be NO, but I'm concerned the answer could be yes. I'd like to see an errata of the Rules Reference to include an explicit prohibition of pre-measuring maneuvers.

OMG! hahaha.. this is the best thing I have seen all day. I am absolutely going to try this with a friend just to screw with them. Then hand them the rules, FAQ and ref book and challenge them to prove I can't measure the maneuver in advance. lol This would ruin half the game if you suddenly could pre-measure.

1 minute ago, xbeaker said:

OMG! hahaha.. this is the best thing I have seen all day. I am absolutely going to try this with a friend just to screw with them. Then hand them the rules, FAQ and ref book and challenge them to prove I can't measure the maneuver in advance. lol This would ruin half the game if you suddenly could pre-measure.

The debate on this got heated a couple months ago. I submitted a rule question to FFG and never received a response.

@digitalbusker "To perform a the action, assign one focus token to the ship." -Rules Reference page 11 under Focus. Please explain your justification for triggering Jake twice after a focus action, if the process for completing the action is assigning the token.

1 hour ago, jmswood said:

@digitalbusker "To perform a the action, assign one focus token to the ship." -Rules Reference page 11 under Focus. Please explain your justification for triggering Jake twice after a focus action, if the process for completing the action is assigning the token.

I respectfully decline to explain my justification for triggering Jake twice after a Focus action, because:

1. this thread isn't (wasn't intended to be) the place to argue this stuff, and
2. I don't actually think you can trigger Jake twice off a Focus action.

I just want them to answer the question, hopefully in a way that can be useful in understanding other rules questions later.

One I just saw.. can you use Genius to drop a bomb if you have been ionized as his ability simply states that you can drop a bomb after performing a maneuver, it does not mention the revel of the dial.

2 minutes ago, xbeaker said:

One I just saw.. can you use Genius to drop a bomb if you have been ionized as his ability simply states that you can drop a bomb after performing a maneuver, it does not mention the revel of the dial.

Ninja!

Is Sabine Wren (crew) a mandatory effect that must be used on the first friendly bomb that detonates each round? Or was she intended to be optional?

If you're looking for specifics point #4 may need some revision/expansion.

#4: How does Minefield Mapper interaction with Extra Munitions and the tokens that upgrade provides? 1. Must discard physical cards. 2. Must choose physical cards to discard, EM then intercepts allowing tokens to be discarded instead. 3. May choose cards and once all cards have been saved by tokens may choose each card a second time.

3 hours ago, xbeaker said:

I sort of see what you are saying, (I assume the question involves - I perform the action so I get a barrel roll, then I get the token from the action so I get to boost?) But this one seems really cut and dry. Since it is "OR" isn't this one of those once per opportunity situations? a single action can only trigger the card once, so even if you are being REALLY pedantic, about the phrasing of "assigned a focus token" you can only trigger it once, so you couldn't get both a boost and barrel roll from just that focus action. I'm not looking to open a debate in this thread as I assume there is one out there already, I am just really surprised this is even in question.

It's true that by the explicit rules, you should actually get both the boost and a barrell roll. This isn't really a question of how it's written. In this case, how it is supposed to work is sufficiently obvious – based on how it used to work with a previous iteration of the rules – that I don't see it is a necessary rules question. It is a glitch let over from an old version of the rules, just like Lightning Reflexes that does not work as intended. We know how it did, though, and thus we know how it should. I only brought it up as a point of interest.

3 hours ago, NilsTillander said:

Also, do Jabba and Extra munitions tokens still work if the card is discarded in any way.

Illicit tokens do because they have a rule that make them work. Munition tokens do not because they lack such a rule. After seeing the C-Roc insert, this one is pretty cut and dry.

If a ship equipped with Cruise Missiles executes more than one maneuver in the same round (such as via Daredevil), which maneuver's speed is used to determine the number of attack dice for the Cruise Missiles?

5 minutes ago, EdgeOfDreams said:

If a ship equipped with Cruise Missiles executes more than one maneuver in the same round (such as via Daredevil), which maneuver's speed is used to determine the number of attack dice for the Cruise Missiles?

The one on the maneuver dial. It's very explicit in the card's text.

4 hours ago, USCGrad90 said:

There are about 4 Store Championships in my area coming up over the next month and there are a number of newly released cards have unresolved questions about what is legal.

I thought it might be a good idea to summarize those here as a pre-cursor to (hopefully) getting an updated FAQ. This is not meant for debate of particular issues, but just to summarize all the things we'd like to see answered. I will post a few of the ones I know and feel free to add more. (Maybe FFG will see this and address some in the next FAQ...)

1) If Cikatro Vizago is used to replace a Cloaking Device upgrade on a ship that is cloaked, does the ship remain cloaked until the cloak token is removed from the ship?

2) Can a ship with Pulsed Ray Shield take an Ion token to allow a 1 straight maneuver the next turn - even if it cannot recover any shields? (Ref: Garven Dreis/R5-P9)

3a) Can ships other than the one equipped with Jabba the Hutt discard Illicit tokens instead of the Illicit Upgrade cards when instructed to discard?

3b) If Jabba the Hutt Crew card is discarded from a ship, can Illicit tokens placed on upgrade cards still be discarded instead of the upgrade cards?

4) Can a squad with Minefield Mapper discard Extra Munitions tokens as well as equipped Bomb Upgrade cards to allow placement of bomb tokens?

5a) Does a Focus action create two opportunities for Jake Farrell to use his pilot ability?

5b) If Jake Farrell performs a Focus action and Jan Ors Crew assigns an evade token instead of a focus token to his ship, can he still perform a free boost or barrel roll action?

6) Is pre-measuring maneuvers during the planning phase allowed?

7) If Pattern Analyzer is used to resolve the "Check Pilot Stress" step after the "Perform Action Step," when the is the maneuver execution considered to be complete?

Thank you, I'm working on a write up for our local store championship I am TO/Judge for this weekend - I have some questions that haven't been asked by those planning to attend yet to add to my list.

Also: 3a & b have been resolved (after nearly a month of the ship being released) because someone finally read the rules insert that comes with the ship. Jabba the Hutt's card is the rules reference card for Illicit tokens, him being in play is not contingent on this.

If you use Minefield Mapper to place Cluster Mines tokens in the play area beyond distance 3 of enemy ships, do you place them all together like they are dropped from a ship? Or can you take each of the 3 tokens and place them individually?

RAW right now isn't clear enough and could actually allow them to be placed individually.

13 minutes ago, NilsTillander said:

The one on the maneuver dial. It's very explicit in the card's text.

Is it? The card doesn't use the word "dial" at all. What about on Juno Eclipse, who can execute a maneuver that isn't on her dial?

At the very least, the fact that I've seen several different players ask this question on various sites makes me think it could be worth clarifying so people don't argue over it.

13 minutes ago, EdgeOfDreams said:

Is it? The card doesn't use the word "dial" at all. What about on Juno Eclipse, who can execute a maneuver that isn't on her dial?

At the very least, the fact that I've seen several different players ask this question on various sites makes me think it could be worth clarifying so people don't argue over it.

Sorry, I got mixed up.

It's the maneuver you executed. I don't believe boosts and other slams are maneuvers, but actions (also, what's the speed of a barrel roll? One?).

Juno's ability modifies your maneuver so the number that counts is the final one (dial plus modifier).

Same for inertial dampeners : you ended up doing a 0 maneuver, you don't get extra dice.

17 minutes ago, NilsTillander said:

Sorry, I got mixed up.

It's the maneuver you executed. I don't believe boosts and other slams are maneuvers, but actions (also, what's the speed of a barrel roll? One?).

Juno's ability modifies your maneuver so the number that counts is the final one (dial plus modifier).

Same for inertial dampeners : you ended up doing a 0 maneuver, you don't get extra dice.

I think EdgeOfDream's challenge comes from the fact that Daredevil is executing a maneuver (the card says "execute a white 1 hard maneuver.") If I have Talonbane Cobra with Daredevil and Cruise Missiles (for some weird reason) and I execute a 4 forward after I reveal my dial and then perform the Dardevil action and execute a 1 hard maneuver, which maneuver counts as "the maneuver" I executed this round towards extra dice? My 1 speed or my 4 speed?

6 minutes ago, ZealuxMyr said:

I think EdgeOfDream's challenge comes from the fact that Daredevil is executing a maneuver (the card says "execute a white 1 hard maneuver.") If I have Talonbane Cobra with Daredevil and Cruise Missiles (for some weird reason) and I execute a 4 forward after I reveal my dial and then perform the Dardevil action and execute a 1 hard maneuver, which maneuver counts as "the maneuver" I executed this round towards extra dice? My 1 speed or my 4 speed?

Thank you. That's exactly what I meant. Daredevil is the key component to the question, because it tells you to execute a maneuver. If it said "perform a boost but with the 1-hard template instead", then it would be a non-issue.

Adaptive Ailerons is another example of a card that causes you to execute two maneuvers in one round. However, there is currently no way to combo AA and Cruise Missiles on the same ship.