I'v always wanted to discuss this with a broader Star Wars fanbase but as a 28 year old biomedical engineer I literally know one other person who is IN to Star Wars. There is a huge difference between people who like Star Wars and people who are IN to Star Wars and as such I am usually left with no one to discuss such topics with despite my die hard fandom.

So Lets talk Prequels, Overall I actually liked the prequels, I thought the story was good. I think the actors in the films especially Ian McDiarmid (Palpatine) and Ewan McGregor (Obi-Wan Kenobi) etc. were excellent. I even liked Hayden Christensen's portrayal of Anakin Skywalker even in the face of some awful script writing by George Lucas (I don't like sand etc.) I actually think Hayden portrayed the egotistical sociopath perfectly, he really captured the unstable and reckless personality of Anakin Skywalker. I think most people really came down hard on him because of some of George Lucas's crap writing, but if you look past that I think the character was portrayed correctly.

Now despite liking the prequels (but not as much as the original trilogy, what we have so far of the new trilogy and Rouge One) there are things that really make me go WHY!?

1. The overuse of CGI - I know that some things cant be done with out it and thats fine but I feel CGI was way to heavily relied on in the prequels and as a result when I watch them now they look really dated in some scenes. Most of that is because the vast majority of the backgrounds were CGI, I dont mean like a city skyline etc. but small areas that could have been full built scenes like when Yoda battles Count Dooku in Attack of The Clones, or when they pan over the Clone Army at the end of Attack of the Clones. If the first 5-8 rows of Troopers were real people in costume and CGI was used to fill in the hundreds in the back It would have looked so much better IMO. Real never gets old and never gets dated, I understand that sometimes CGI is the easiest way to go (ships, background city and plant landscapes etc.) but for the stuff that's in your face during the movie as much of it should be "real" as possible IMO.

2. Gungans - seriously, what was George on the day he dreamt up those annoying critters... At least ewoks in ROTJ served a purpose although that is another example of George creating underwhelming Natives IMO. Boss Nass and Jar-Jar just ruin the species as a whole, if they just talked normal or without trying to sound like they're from the Caribbean or Jamaica or w/e Georgie boy was going for it might have been passable but it was just to ridiculous for me and if it wasn't for Liam as Qui-Gon and Ray Park as Darth Maul I wouldn't even re-watch Episode 1 ever again lol

3. Spotty Horrible Script Writing - I touched on this already but some of the dialog that George came up with is just clunky, odd and just plain weird. One example being Anakins now famous meme worthy "I don't like sand..." or the other "I wish, I could just wish these feelings away". Poor Hayden, you can polish a turd but in the end its still a turd and while I in no way thing Hayden is or was a bad actor, I think he did the best he could with what George gave him but unfortunately sometimes it was just straight crap.

There are lots of other small things I do not like about the prequels but these are the main three things that really just make me want to kick George Lucas in the shin sometimes. You've read mine, Now I want to hear your thoughts on the Prequels:

First of all I'm a big fan of the prequels, and the whole 8 film saga as well. In fact my ranking is 3/6/RO/1/5/2/4/7.

So I like the PT and OT about the same, maybe even a slight leaning towards the PT. ST for now is way below though.

If you want to discuss the films with other fans, I HIGHLY recommend you join the message boards of theforce.net. They have a whole forum just for the PT and it has a ton of discussion going on regularly.

As for your 3 complaints.

1) I agree it maybe got a bit out of control, but I feel as a whole it's blown way out of proportion. There's a great thread on TFN that is hundreds of pages long now showing all the models/costumes/props/and other "practical" effects the PT used. It's much more than many people realize I think. I also think CGI and blue/green screen get thrown around interchangeably a bit too much. A lot of times when using blue/green screens the background is being replaced with a model, or a digital matte painting, not CGI objects necessarily. Often it's needed for windows, or to extend sets. I also think since Lucas was funding the movies himself he didn't spend as much as Disney would have if they had owned them back then, so CGI was sometimes the cheaper option to save money. With a Disney budget he probably could have gone even more crazy with practical stuff. But overall I think the CGI was quite impressive for the time, and some still holds up pretty well.

2) I think the gungan race is pretty cool actually. I think because of Jar Jar it gets a bad rap. They are much more believable warriors than the ewoks that's for sure. Their technology is really neat, and I love the design of their underwater cities.

3) I also agree the scripts weren't amazing, though I don't really feel they were really much worse than the other movies. I sometimes feel like some of the more cringe worthy lines from the OT are beloved now because of their cheese. I think the sand line is actually headed that direction as a interviewer to hayden at celebration even used it as a joke. But in general for me at least dialogue and/or acting doesn't make or break a movie for me unless it's super good or super bad, it's the general story and execution that hooks me or not.

I wholeheartedly agree with marcsoul. It annoys the crap out of me when I see people complaining about "excessive CGI" because for most shots you can't tell the difference, its only in a few egregious places that it stands out.

I also really like the gungan race, just not Jar-Jar. A friend of mine and I have a theory that if you just trim out the worst of JarJar's silly-ness and replaced all the Gungan speech with other voices speaking huttese then the gungans would be a totally cool SW race.

9 hours ago, markcsoul said:

2) I think the gungan race is pretty cool actually. I think because of Jar Jar it gets a bad rap.

They're awful. Awful in concept, awful in tone, awful in execution.

There's not a single second of Phantom Menace that I would watch again and I'm not sure you could edit the other two films down to a single movie that was worth watching.

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One example being Anakins now famous meme worthy "I don't like sand..." or the other "I wish, I could just wish these feelings away".

"Let's try spinning, that's a good trick!"

I agree on the acting. I'm not Hayden Christiensan's biggest fan, but there are some really, really good actors in the prequels and pretty much all of them seem to be playing planks of wood. I remember a youtube video suggesting Lucas was off to one side of the camera after each take, yelling "No! Try it again, but with less empathy!"

I'm not sure agree with the gungan comment - Tarpals actually comes across as quite awesome in the clone wars animation, and the idea wasn't that bad - but above all definitely agree about CGI; Lord of the rings (similar timeframe) used one 'rank' of real actors, and the battle of the last alliance looks pretty convincing even by today's standards. Miniatures/model based animation made star wars what it was precisely because it helped create that 'lived-in' environment feel that made star wars feel more convincing than other sci-fi settings, much like the heavily panelled and greebled spaceships. We don't know what all that stuff on the wall in the backdrop does, but the idea that it does something makes it feel like a piece of machinery, not a flimsy mdf set like the bridge of the enterprise.

I do have a lot of time for the duel of the fates. That's one of the better choreographed duels in the series, but most of the rest just feels like a waste. The space battle is visually pretty but you don't see enough of it, or any of the characters involved, to care.

The N-1 fighter will never really appeal to me because of the stupid 'shoulderless' design of the astromech slot (purely on aesthetic grounds that I don't see would have looked that bad) that means they had to retroactively declare that R2 astromechs were actually cybernetic giraffes. Which makes the fact that they had built-in periscopes extra retarted.

Went to see the midnight release of the Phantom Menace with a group of like-minded friends. We were insanely hyped for it, what with it being the first Star Wars film in years, "Dual of the Fates" etc.

The cinema was packed. Every seat taken. The excitment in the air was palpable. The moment the Star Wars logo hit and the opening crawl began, there was a thunderous ovation.

That was the first - and last - time anyone in the audience showed any kind of appreciation. I remember as the five of us trudged, quiet and bewildered, back to the car after the film ended. Only once we were safely sat in side did my friend break the silence with "Well, that was a crock of ****."

57 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

Well, that was a crock of ****."

I pretty much had the same thought my first viewing. Now when re-watching I fast-forward to the Obi-Wan , Qui-Gon and Darth Maul duel and then shut the movie off... at least with attack of the clones and revenge of the sith I can watch the movie start to finish and be entertained lol

As far as everyone's comments on CGI I understand what you're getting at but like @Magnus Grendel said the ship models and real props etc in the OT make them not seem so dated even today. I agree that the limiting factor was George's wallet and if Disney was at the helm then the movies would have had more real and less cgi. But CGI is necessary in many aspects like backgrounds, ship battles etc. I understand that I just wish there was less of it up in my face sometimes in the prequels because it can and does date the movies in some scenes IMO.

14 minutes ago, Phoenix5454 said:

But CGI is necessary in many aspects like backgrounds, ship battles etc. I understand that I just wish there was less of it up in my face sometimes in the prequels because it can and does date the movies in some scenes IMO

Exactly. CGI is great when it's used to support practical effects. Computer, or other artificial fettling, is always needed to 'clean up' stuff - look at the original Empire Strikes Back, where the cockpit of the snowspeeders 'fades' a little bit (to the point you can see an AT-AT's leg moving through it), which was done to avoid the 'black lining' you got when putting miniatures work into practical stuff.

CG supported practical effects - The 'bullet time sequences' in the original Matrix film

'Pure CGI' - the 'army of Smiths' fight from the Matrix Reloaded.

CG supported practical effects - The Last Alliance at Mount Doom

'Pure CGI' - The Battle of Naboo

Hell, even Avatar, whilst purely CG, was real actors captured and rotoscoped into a virtual set - which instantly made them stand out less than 'dude in front of greenscreen' which was the signature of the prequels.

14 minutes ago, Phoenix5454 said:

I agree that the limiting factor was George's wallet and if Disney was at the helm then the movies would have had more real and less cgi.

Sorry, no dice. George Lucas' budget was the equal of any major director of the era. I do agree that a different director might well have done it better. A big part of the issue is that people saw the original star wars as George Lucas' creation, without paying attention to the many gifted actors and production staff who are know to have edited, fettled, and outright ad-libbed famous scenes and lines from the original story. By comparison, the prequels are....er.... unfiltered George Lucas.

The Phantom Menace was released in the same year as Fellowship Of The Ring, and had a bigger budget ($115 million to $93 million) than the Lord of the Rings film.

Attack of the Clones stacks up equally badly to The Two Towers ($115 million to $94 million, same year)

Mostly it's the scripting that bothered me. THe CGI was a bit iffy in places but was impressive for its time, the direction of the battles both space and ground never really disappointed (albeit some of the acrobatics were a bit over the top), and I absolutely adored the design cues progressing through the lore about which companies were making which ships for which factions and why therefore the bit wedge capital ships and tiny wedge fighters happened etc, but the writing was just atrocious.

I don't like sand.

My biggest gripe is that TPM is a totally worthless movie. It really doesn't bring anything to the saga. Do we really need to see Anakin as a kid? He built C3PO? what the ****!? That Darth Maul guy looks cool, oh no he's dead (until he was resurrected to make up for George's mistake). Wait, a teenage Padme knew Anakin when he was a snot nose kid and now is romantically interested in him? Creepy.

The saga as a whole would be way better if TPM didn't exist.

2 hours ago, Magnus Grendel said:

Sorry, no dice. George Lucas' budget was the equal of any major director of the era. I do agree that a different director might well have done it better. A big part of the issue is that people saw the original star wars as George Lucas' creation, without paying attention to the many gifted actors and production staff who are know to have edited, fettled, and outright ad-libbed famous scenes and lines from the original story. By comparison, the prequels are....er.... unfiltered George Lucas.

The Phantom Menace was released in the same year as Fellowship Of The Ring, and had a bigger budget ($115 million to $93 million) than the Lord of the Rings film.

Attack of the Clones stacks up equally badly to The Two Towers ($115 million to $94 million, same year)

Maybe Georgie Boy was just frugal then lol

1 hour ago, Jo Jo said:

My biggest gripe is that TPM is a totally worthless movie. It really doesn't bring anything to the saga. Do we really need to see Anakin as a kid? He built C3PO? what the ****!? That Darth Maul guy looks cool, oh no he's dead (until he was resurrected to make up for George's mistake). Wait, a teenage Padme knew Anakin when he was a snot nose kid and now is romantically interested in him? Creepy.

The saga as a whole would be way better if TPM didn't exist.

Haha I agree. I actually read somewhere that supposedly Anakin didn't build C-3PO but salvaged him, so fixed him so he worked again but didn't build him from scratch, that may be legends now tho so who knows what's canon anymore.

It's interesting that George can't seem to resist trying to kill off fan favorite villains, Darth Maul supposedly killed in episode 1 brought back to life in the clone wars series with robotic limbs probably because the fans wished him backed to life just as they did with Boba Fett, I think in legends he blasts his way out of the sarlacc in new canon there's no direct answer but little hints thrown into some of the new canon books that Boba survived. It always cracks me up to watch the interview with George about Boba Fett in ROTJ, "I had no idea fans would like him..." I can see that Boba needed to be out of the way for the rest of the ROTJ story but the best bounty hunter in the galaxy falling into a sarlacc pit... right. Same with Jango Fett on attack of the clones... his jet pack got busted... OK he held his own with Obi-wan for a little bit at least face to face I at least think he could of gotten away from Mace without his jet pack but not necessarily killed him... anyways I digress I'm a Fett fan so those two things piss me off, if you're going to kill a character off, do it right!

I am also a biomedical engineer, but I seem to have a lot of friends who love Star Wars. Most of them hate the prequels though, so I don't get a chance to discuss them much either!

I actually liked the prequels, and I thought Episode 1 was the best, because Qui Gon and Obi Wan are awesome, and I actually like the amount of levity that Jar Jar introduces to the movie. It's definitely for a younger target audience, so the fact that I was a kid when I saw it probably affects my liking of it. That's also, in my opinion, why people don't like it. I also think Anakin is too young, making his romantic scenes with Padme awkward and his accomplishments unbelievable.

Episode II is the worst. I actually think Anakin is more likeabke and believable in Episode III than Episode II. What Padme sees in him is beyond me - she's like those weird people who write love letters to psycho killers in prison.

I find Episode III has really cool scenery and storyline, but it's boring because you know the ending. After Dooku dies, there's no main characters left who could possibly not survive the movie, except Padme and all the other Jedi, who we know have to die, so there's not really any suspense.

So, yeah, I like the prequels, but I feel like they're not canon. Leia refers to remembering what her mother looked like in Episode VI, something a newborn can't do, and the timeline's all messed up. ("Your old master? Surely he must be dead by now" - Tarkin, while Obi Wan is canonically about 50 years old but being played by an actor in his seventies). Disney has already overwritten parts of Episode III - in III, the separatists design the Death Star, but in Rogue One Galen Erso and the Empire design it.

I liked them as an alternate universe, but I'm thinking they might be redone/remade at some point. Which will be a shame, because Ewan McGregor probably will be too old to be Obi Wan by that point, and he's the best choice for a younger Obi-Wan.

3 hours ago, Kieransi said:

I am also a biomedical engineer, but I seem to have a lot of friends who love Star Wars. Most of them hate the prequels though, so I don't get a chance to discuss them much either!

I actually liked the prequels, and I thought Episode 1 was the best, because Qui Gon and Obi Wan are awesome, and I actually like the amount of levity that Jar Jar introduces to the movie. It's definitely for a younger target audience, so the fact that I was a kid when I saw it probably affects my liking of it. That's also, in my opinion, why people don't like it. I also think Anakin is too young, making his romantic scenes with Padme awkward and his accomplishments unbelievable.

Episode II is the worst. I actually think Anakin is more likeabke and believable in Episode III than Episode II. What Padme sees in him is beyond me - she's like those weird people who write love letters to psycho killers in prison.

I find Episode III has really cool scenery and storyline, but it's boring because you know the ending. After Dooku dies, there's no main characters left who could possibly not survive the movie, except Padme and all the other Jedi, who we know have to die, so there's not really any suspense.

So, yeah, I like the prequels, but I feel like they're not canon. Leia refers to remembering what her mother looked like in Episode VI, something a newborn can't do, and the timeline's all messed up. ("Your old master? Surely he must be dead by now" - Tarkin, while Obi Wan is canonically about 50 years old but being played by an actor in his seventies). Disney has already overwritten parts of Episode III - in III, the separatists design the Death Star, but in Rogue One Galen Erso and the Empire design it.

I liked them as an alternate universe, but I'm thinking they might be redone/remade at some point. Which will be a shame, because Ewan McGregor probably will be too old to be Obi Wan by that point, and he's the best choice for a younger Obi-Wan.

You bring up some interesting conflicting continuity points, some of which have been tackled by youtubers like Star Wars Theory and Star Wars Explained. The bit about Leia remembering her mother is a "Force Imprint" apparently. The Geonosians did design the death star but Galin Urso was brought in to engineer its actual construction under the empire, anyone who has ever built something from blue prints like myself knows that it doesn't always go according to plan and you sometimes have to kick it back to the engineers for a re-design. I think the main reason you see Human Engineers working on the Death Star in Rogue One is simple for two reasons. 1. The Geonosians are almost all dead, I think there was a rebels episode that touched on the fact they were pretty much wiped out except for one egg and one geonosian. 2. Palpatine hates aliens and would much rather have something the geonosians designed being "publicly" engineered (at least in terms of Imperial High Command) by Humans. I think overall the timeline still makes sense even with Disney at the helm, however this is just my opinion.

I think the prequels may be re-mastered at some point, CGI updates etc. (there's enough of it...) but the core actors and physical parts of the films will remain untouched. Disney is to busy making their own trilogy and one off movies to worry about trying to go back and polish something George did. There's not enough money in it for them to do that. Not at this point in time at least. Although I admit I would really like to see some of the Clones CGI redone in Attack of the Clones, the battle between the separatist / geonosians and the clones was awesome but watching it now it looks dated because of "old" CGI.

In regards to the age difference between anakin and padme...

First of all its about 4 years only which isn't that much. Yes when they first meet she's 14 and he's about to turn 10. He has a crush which isn't weird, and she's not remotely romantically interested in him at this point.

When they meet again 10 years later he's 20 and she's 24. Nothing wrong with that age gap.

I think it's more that it's the girl being older that makes people think it's weird or creepy. If it was flipped I doubt people would care as much.

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I actually liked the prequels, and I thought Episode 1 was the best, because Qui Gon and Obi Wan are awesome, and I actually like the amount of levity that Jar Jar introduces to the movie. It's definitely for a younger target audience, so the fact that I was a kid when I saw it probably affects my liking of it. That's also, in my opinion, why people don't like it. I also think Anakin is too young, making his romantic scenes with Padme awkward and his accomplishments unbelievable.

Agreed. I think that was part of the problem; feeling a need to target it at a younger audience. I remember having a conversation with one friend:

"I remember how much I loved the originals when I saw them"

"Yes, but when you saw them you were eight ."

Qui Gon is one of the things that makes me feel like the film should have been better than it was. He's an interesting character....who gets the chop too early in the trilogy to actually be interesting. I get that he's essentially playing old Obi Wan to actual Obi Wan's Luke, but he still feels wasted. Plus, it's another example of a really good actor who seems underused.

Anakin.....yeah. There was no need to bring him into the story that young. A big part of the problem is the question: Who is the primary hero of Episodes 1-3?

For episodes 4-6, the hero is unarguably Luke. Han and Leia are there too, as second-tier heroes, but the story is a classic Heroes' Journey and Luke is the one on it.

In 1-3.....I dunno. Maybe Obi-Wan? The problem with making it the story of Anakin is that we know he ends up as Darth Vader. Making him cheery and cute undermines the point of the Dark Lord Of The Sith, making him stroppy and unlikeable undermines the point of him as the main character of the trilogy because we'd quite like to see him get the crud kicked out of him.

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Disney has already overwritten parts of Episode III - in III, the separatists design the Death Star, but in Rogue One Galen Erso and the Empire design it.

The seperatists designed the big gun. Erso designed the kyber-crystal based reactor which could actually power the thing.

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So, yeah, I like the prequels, but I feel like they're not canon. Leia refers to remembering what her mother looked like in Episode VI, something a newborn can't do, and the timeline's all messed up. ("Your old master? Surely he must be dead by now" - Tarkin, while Obi Wan is canonically about 50 years old but being played by an actor in his seventies).

That bugs me too. I get having to retroactively explain things, or fill in logical gaps in canon (like the infamous "why didn't they put a grill over the exhaust port" joke - because they didn't realise it was a weakness until they started looking at the design, knowing the chief designer had done something, and realised what the attacking rebel ships were trying to hit).

But when the films you wrote say things happened one way - leia remembers her mother, Obi-Wan was trained by Yoda, etc, then why not stick with it (yes, I know Yoda takes the pre-teen class. But it always feels like Qui Gon's role should have been Yoda).

I got my complaints about the prequels; but I also have some dislikes for the original trilogy to. My complaints are more minor complaints really, because in the end I still like all the movies and still watch them and I must have more of them. Anyways here they are.

1. Neimoidian lip movements failure to match speech and lack of facial expression. Clearly Lucas didn't care that much about these guys at all and I have to wonder with the use of some much CGI, why not just CGI the Neimoidian's.
2. I like the Gungans, every time I played Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds I played the Gungans; but I didn't like the attempt at appealing to kids with characters like Jar Jar and Boss Nass. Kids do not need to see stupid goofy characters to enjoy a movie.
3. I personally think Anakin should have been older and closer to the same age as Padme and not because of the age gap in their love; but simply just because I think he should have been older. Anakin faces off against criminals like Sebulba and other disreputable figures and I don't care if he was a slave, they would've kicked that little kids butt. As a teenager he could've had some fighting experience and somewhat known how to use the force in a fight with fast reflexes and what not. Oh and he accidentally destroyed the droid control ship. Maybe if they did something like showing him contemplating how to destroy it, using the force to guide him than that would have been better. Again another lousy attempt to appeal to little kids. Kids do not need to see characters their own age to think that could happen to them. Plenty of little Kids (myself included) saw Luke Skywalker in A New Hope and thought that could be them, despite the fact that Luke was already in his late teens.
4. Midichlorians. WTF? I swear Lucas was on drugs with this one and was thinking of ways to ruin the force for the rest of us.
5. The failed attempt to make Yoda look younger in The Phantom menace. Master Yoda has lived for over eight hundred years there was no need to make him look younger. Maybe if you were doing a prequel when he was five or three hundred ok sure.
6. Poor script writing by Lucas is pretty much been covered by everyone and I gotta say I don't think he was even sure how to write out Anakin and Padme's love story, which clearly distracted him from concentrating on making the rest of the prequels good strong movies.
7. R2D2 & C-3PO being in every movie doesn't bother me that much; but I think they got too much attention. R2D2's added thruster's which we never see in the original trilogy and C-3PO's lost in the battle droid factory comical nonsense.
8. All CGI clone troopers. I mean I understand they are clones and all are supposed to pretty much be the same height, weight and what not; but Temuera Morrison who played Jengo Fett and the clones is only 5' 8". It would not be difficult to find extras of the same build to form a couple of squads with CGI clones in support.
9. Separatist Dreadnought in Revenge of the Sith takes a nose dive while still in space mind you; but for some reason its gravity shifts in relativity to the planets surface. Causing stuff to fall and crash and people run down elevator shafts as if they're hallways and then it levels out and yeah no technically that shouldn't have happen. Maybe if they were with it the atmosphere; but they were not.
10. Anakin Skywalker becomes Darth Vader and storms the Jedi temple with the 501st and I only get to see Anakin scare younglings before murdering them. I was hoping to see him face off against other jedi knights; but I only get a few seconds of that in some random holo footage which was kinda disappointing.
11. And yeah CGI everywhere. I remember lots of my friends were worried about excessive use of CGI after the mid ninety's re-releases with expanded scenes. Their fears were justified.

Now don't get me wrong I actually like the prequels, not as much as I love the original trilogy; but I do like them. I just feel like Lucas wasn't out to make real good strong movies and was possible just setting himself up for some Clone Wars series fun.

Or George Lucas is just basically terrible at making films and everyone around him knew it was heading into a car crash but couldn't get a word in edgeways to change anything.

When you read about how A New Hope became a success so much of it was down to rewrite and editing that wasn't done by George, fixing awful dialogue, characterisation and pacing, and inserting wisecracking humour. When you realise none of those people were around for the prequels it becomes really obvious why they're such po-faced and overworked self-important drivel (and tbh Return of the Jedi was going that way even by the end of the original trilogy).

It's what The Force Awakens got spot on in recapturing what Star Wars movies should be - an adventure.

13 hours ago, markcsoul said:

In regards to the age difference between anakin and padme...

First of all its about 4 years only which isn't that much. Yes when they first meet she's 14 and he's about to turn 10. He has a crush which isn't weird, and she's not remotely romantically interested in him at this point.

When they meet again 10 years later he's 20 and she's 24. Nothing wrong with that age gap.

I think it's more that it's the girl being older that makes people think it's weird or creepy. If it was flipped I doubt people would care as much.

The casting was bad then. Natalie Portman is 8 years older than Jake Lloyd and on film the age gap is more apparent.

4 hours ago, ImNtDead said:

1. R2D2 & C-3PO being in every movie doesn't bother me that much; but I think they got too much attention. R2D2's added thruster's which we never see in the original trilogy and C-3PO's lost in the battle droid factory comical nonsense...

...admittedly, without that we would never have got the glory that is Creepio's SINGULARITY ENGINE! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES.

(skip to 15:11)

I like Auranauts. They made the prequels watchable.

7 hours ago, ImNtDead said:

1. I personally think Anakin should have been older and closer to the same age as Padme and not because of the age gap in their love; but simply just because I think he should have been older. Anakin faces off against criminals like Sebulba and other disreputable figures and I don't care if he was a slave, they would've kicked that little kids butt. As a teenager he could've had some fighting experience and somewhat known how to use the force in a fight with fast reflexes and what not. Oh and he accidentally destroyed the droid control ship. Maybe if they did something like showing him contemplating how to destroy it, using the force to guide him than that would have been better. Again another lousy attempt to appeal to little kids. Kids do not need to see characters their own age to think that could happen to them. Plenty of little Kids (myself included) saw Luke Skywalker in A New Hope and thought that could be them, despite the fact that Luke was already in his late teens.

I watched all the prequels again last week, and this was what bugged me the most actually. Anakin is a tiny little kid who seems to accidentally win all his battles. The battle at the end is the worst, where trained adult Naboo pilots are dropping like flies, but this little kid magically flies into battle, avoiding all the laser fire, and then says "oops!" As he fires Proton Torpedoes into the central reactor core of the main separatist ship, unleashing a chain reaction that kills all the separatists except Gunray, and deactivates all the droids that the hapless Gungans are getting destroyed by.

I think they've retroactively said he's supposed to be 14 in the movie, and the script works well for him to be a teenager, but the actor is an adorable little kid who is shorter than I was at age eight (which is a fair comparison for me to make, since he's supposed to grow up into a 6'6" Sith Lord).

People complain about Rey magically and inexplicably figuring out complex mysteries and intricacies of the Force with no training whatsoever, but there's a huge difference between a 16 year-old mimicking the same Force abilities that her opponent is using (Kylo Ren's Vulcan Mind Meld) and a 10 year-old (at most - as I said, he looks like he should be seven or eight given Darth Vader's height and low voice) randomly single-handedly winning an insanely one-sided space battle by accident.

May seem superficial, but my biggest gripe with the prequels and even episode 7 is with the character names.

Count Dooku sounds like doo doo. How can I take this guy seriously with that name?

Then there's Mace Windu. Again with the "ew" sound. Can't take him seriously. Sounds like something a new born came up with.

Naboo. See above.

Jacku. See above.

Plo Koon. See above.

Supreme Leader Snoke. Sounds like I'm watching a knock off Harry Potter movie.

Ima Gun Di. I heard this was intentional, but I struggle to take him seriously.

There are more, but these are ones off of the top of my head. It's not that the originals had more creative names, I.e. Darth Vader, but there weren't as many ridiculous sounding names in it. Sky Walker was a cheesy as it got, but I can take cheesy over baby babble.

1 hour ago, Arrowman said:

May seem superficial, but my biggest gripe with the prequels and even episode 7 is with the character names.

Count Dooku sounds like doo doo. How can I take this guy seriously with that name?

Then there's Mace Windu. Again with the "ew" sound. Can't take him seriously. Sounds like something a new born came up with.

Naboo. See above.

Jacku. See above.

Plo Koon. See above.

Supreme Leader Snoke. Sounds like I'm watching a knock off Harry Potter movie.

Ima Gun Di. I heard this was intentional, but I struggle to take him seriously.

There are more, but these are ones off of the top of my head. It's not that the originals had more creative names, I.e. Darth Vader, but there weren't as many ridiculous sounding names in it. Sky Walker was a cheesy as it got, but I can take cheesy over baby babble.

Boo boo boo boo lol

Never realized all the oooooouuusss

Count Dooku makes me think of those tree people in Zelda wasn't that exactly what they were called? Dookus?

Plo Koon never called Master Koon even in the animated clone wars series always Master Plo Koon because Master Koon sounds like a racial slur...

Maz pronounced Jakku more as JA -coo which I think sounds better, still the ooooooouuuu sound tho...

Ima Gun Di was in the animated clone wars series for maybe 2 min... don't remember if he was actually in the prequels on screen. But yeah name as totally a writers joke I am gonna die lol

No issue with Snoke here character seems pretty interesting. Supreme leader makes me think North Korea...**** news...

Naboo... Gungans... meh