Where is your place in the Great Order?

By Shu2jack, in Legend of the Five Rings: The Card Game

12 minutes ago, AtoMaki said:

Knowing my luck, I would be an ogre in the Shadowlands :lol:.

At least then you'd get to hang out with a clan daimyo (Kuni Yori) :P

15 minutes ago, AtoMaki said:

Knowing my luck, I would be an ogre in the Shadowlands :lol:.

You are selling yourself short.

Your arguments are usually well presented, So I would say one of those cannibal Lost samurai would be a better fit:)

8 minutes ago, HirumaShigure said:

At least then you'd get to hang out with a clan daimyo (Kuni Yori) :P

Yori has better taste than that :)jk

3 hours ago, Kuni Katsuyoshi said:

Yori has better taste than that :)jk

"You mean Yori tastes better, right?"

- Ogre Bushi

3 hours ago, HirumaShigure said:

At least then you'd get to hang out with a clan daimyo (Kuni Yori) :P

Ogre's aren't actually shadowlands right? That's what the lore used to say. At one point they were an advanced magical race... The shadowlands just takes advantage of them being outcast and in somewhat of a drastic decline. I remember reading that somewhere.

23 minutes ago, Ishi Tonu said:

"You mean Yori tastes better, right?"

- Ogre Bushi

You'd think an ogre would go for for something a liitle meatier. Like one the Damned or a fat Yasuki:)

I'm an accountant and a teacher... Being an Isawa in an era where the family feud was still on, I'd probably be an auditor of Asako bookkeeping and accounting reports. While having a student or two on the side. :lol:

On 08/07/2017 at 4:10 AM, Kuni Katsuyoshi said:

To the Lion 'hello' is a fighting word

HOW DARE YOU! :P That's fighting talk!

Honestly, if I was Rokugani born, i'd have been a Ronin. Born an outcast, live as an outcast, and die as an outcast.

IRL, I'm an areligious lawyer who doesn't work out, or like interacting with people.

Imperial scribe who may or may not be a Shosuro spy.

13 hours ago, MoZi said:

Ogre's aren't actually shadowlands right? That's what the lore used to say. At one point they were an advanced magical race... The shadowlands just takes advantage of them being outcast and in somewhat of a drastic decline. I remember reading that somewhere.

The ogres were originally the Big Good guys who kicked Jigoku's butt so hard it needed a divine intervention (Fu Leng) to recover. Then the nezumi screwed them over, the Fall of the Kami screwed them over even more, and finally they gave the middle finger to Fu Leng who in turn enslaved them with magic. However, it was shown that the ogres revert to their old selves when they leave the Shadowlands and shake off Fu Leng's influence over time (there was a story about some of these "free ogres" trying to join the Crab Clan only to get killed by the Clan Champion because of reasons).

Yes, it was one of the big questions of the old canon that why Hantei (or Hida) did nothing about this.

I'm a fairly average person of my own race and country. Therefore, I'd probably be a peasant.

I'm a loyal Dragon and a history major irl (with the intent to become either a professor or a high school teacher), so I guess my most logical place would be in the Agasha family (assuming they don't defect this time...). My ideal fighting style in pretty much any video- or tabletop-game that allows it is a Spellsword--however, with what I've read of L5R's shugenja I'm not sure if that's possible/allowed in this setting. If I have to choose between either being a shugenja or a bushi, I don't know what to choose o_0. I will say that, if I were a bushi, I'd want to be a Mirumoto--or at least have been trained by one. That two sword style...beautiful... If I were a shugenja, I'd either want to be fire or void--but being void would mean having to be trained by the Phoenix. I guess that's okay--as long as they don't steal my family this time >:(.

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1 hour ago, Mandalore525 said:

I'm a loyal Dragon and a history major irl (with the intent to become either a professor or a high school teacher), so I guess my most logical place would be in the Agasha family (assuming they don't defect this time...). My ideal fighting style in pretty much any video- or tabletop-game that allows it is a Spellsword--however, with what I've read of L5R's shugenja I'm not sure if that's possible/allowed in this setting. If I have to choose between either being a shugenja or a bushi, I don't know what to choose o_0. I will say that, if I were a bushi, I'd want to be a Mirumoto--or at least have been trained by one. That two sword style...beautiful... If I were a shugenja, I'd either want to be fire or void--but being void would mean having to be trained by the Phoenix. I guess that's okay--as long as they don't steal my family this time >:(.

That would be an interesting character. Agasha Shugenja trained in Niten style OR a Mirumoto Niten duelist who has an Agasha provide some magical assistance items.

2 hours ago, Mandalore525 said:

I'm a loyal Dragon and a history major irl (with the intent to become either a professor or a high school teacher), so I guess my most logical place would be in the Agasha family (assuming they don't defect this time...). My ideal fighting style in pretty much any video- or tabletop-game that allows it is a Spellsword--however, with what I've read of L5R's shugenja I'm not sure if that's possible/allowed in this setting. If I have to choose between either being a shugenja or a bushi, I don't know what to choose o_0. I will say that, if I were a bushi, I'd want to be a Mirumoto--or at least have been trained by one. That two sword style...beautiful... If I were a shugenja, I'd either want to be fire or void--but being void would mean having to be trained by the Phoenix. I guess that's okay--as long as they don't steal my family this time >:(.

L5R shugenja aren't restricted from using martial weaponry or getting their hands dirty. Heavy armour can impede you, but Niten swordmasters will often wear light armor instead anyway, as they need maneuverability too.

Mechanically, a shugenja draws their elemental power from their own traits. Which traits they use depends upon which element they focus on. Water shugenja need to be strong and perceptive, fire shugenja need to be as agile as any bushi and intelligent as any scholar, and so on.

There's even a Fire spell which creates a magical katana of fire for the shugenja. This spell is basically designed specifically for the sort of character you're describing.

(Also, high five to another historian. The world needs more of us.)

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As a middle ranking public servant, is probably be a middle ranking public servant, so an Otomo.

Just like the Shadowlands players, I can never win, but more importantly, I can never lose.

I'm electrical engineer by trade, born in the Caribbean so mantis thunder shugenja, oh wait I don't think we have those now... then Moshi (if they allow guys in their ranks) or Phoenix Shugenja. :)

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RIGHT BEHIND YOU!

In all reality, I'd probably just die a lot.

I'd definitely be a Moto death priest. For... reasons.

5 minutes ago, twinstarbmc said:

I'd definitely be a Moto death priest. For... reasons.

Oh...uhh.....ewwww:wacko:

15 hours ago, Kitsu Seinosuke said:

(Also, high five to another historian. The world needs more jobs for us.)

Fixed it for you, and my wife would agree. ;)

Well I'm a dude covered in tattoos with a shaved head who spent his college years in the woods and mountains of Maine at a 400 student, alternative curriculum school described by tourist outsiders as a cult.

*glances at his choice of profile mon*

I mean obviously I'd be a Doji Courtier...:ph34r:

14 minutes ago, Zetsubou said:

Well I'm a dude covered in tattoos with a shaved head who spent his college years in the woods and mountains of Maine at a 400 student, alternative curriculum school described by tourist outsiders as a cult.

*glances at his choice of profile mon*

I mean obviously I'd be a Doji Courtier...:ph34r:

LOL

If you lived in a state that wasn't the site of most Stephen King and John Connoly novels, it would have just been an 'alternative' school.:)

21 hours ago, shosuko said:

That would be an interesting character. Agasha Shugenja trained in Niten style OR a Mirumoto Niten duelist who has an Agasha provide some magical assistance items.

21 hours ago, Kitsu Seinosuke said:

L5R shugenja aren't restricted from using martial weaponry or getting their hands dirty. Heavy armour can impede you, but Niten swordmasters will often wear light armor instead anyway, as they need maneuverability too.

Mechanically, a shugenja draws their elemental power from their own traits. Which traits they use depends upon which element they focus on. Water shugenja need to be strong and perceptive, fire shugenja need to be as agile as any bushi and intelligent as any scholar, and so on.

There's even a Fire spell which creates a magical katana of fire for the shugenja. This spell is basically designed specifically for the sort of character you're describing.

(Also, high five to another historian. The world needs more of us.)

Thanks for the advice, both of you! Glad to hear there's a place in the Great Order for a wannabe-spellsword like me! I guess, then, that my role would definitely be an Agasha Shugenja trained in the art of Niten. I'd probably wander Rokugan searching for lost bits of history to record.

So from what Kitsu Seinosuke said, it sounds like kami or certain elements are drawn to people with certain personality traits? Is there a rhyme or reason to which elements go with which personality, or is it more like if you have an interesting personality then a kami might find you more interesting to follow around? I personally would like to think I'd be a fire shugenja--because, you know, burninating stuff is fun. But maybe fire kami aren't *actually* the type of kami who would want to follow someone like me around?

2 hours ago, Mandalore525 said:

Thanks for the advice, both of you! Glad to hear there's a place in the Great Order for a wannabe-spellsword like me! I guess, then, that my role would definitely be an Agasha Shugenja trained in the art of Niten. I'd probably wander Rokugan searching for lost bits of history to record.

So from what Kitsu Seinosuke said, it sounds like kami or certain elements are drawn to people with certain personality traits? Is there a rhyme or reason to which elements go with which personality, or is it more like if you have an interesting personality then a kami might find you more interesting to follow around? I personally would like to think I'd be a fire shugenja--because, you know, burninating stuff is fun. But maybe fire kami aren't *actually* the type of kami who would want to follow someone like me around?

There is good precedence for it as well. From the 1st edition Way of the Dragon book:

While in the mountains, Agasha established schools, shrines, and temples while Mirumoto Yojiro was concerned with maintaining their security. The two worked closely together, each learning much of the ways of the other. Over the years, a fast friendship grew between the bushi and shugenja. Mirumoto encouraged his bushi to watch and learn from Agasha's students, and Agasha did the same.

This practice continued, even after the deaths of the founders of the two schools. Mirumoto bushi - while not able to cast magic - are highly attuned to the Five Elements, and Agasha shugenja - while not bushi - understand the basics of tactics and strategy.

The Agasha are a bit unique in that, while they have more affinity to Fire in the first book, they developed "multi-element" magic blending nature, chemistry, and the kami together. Here is some good reading

http://l5r.wikia.com/wiki/Agasha
http://l5r.wikia.com/wiki/Agasha_Shugenja
http://l5r.wikia.com/wiki/Multi-elemental_magics

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