7 minutes ago, SithArissa said:

Yeah but its so late in the tree. Something stealthy sooner so you can slink into the shadows from the start of a new character in one of the new specs would be welcome.

Exactly. You either have to take an entire column (50 xp) of combat talents to get to Natural Rogue (75 to get to MoS, though you do get Natural Rogue just before), or spend over 200xp to go the other way. Either way, you are already a pretty advanced character before you get any talents to improve your rogue skills.

5 hours ago, Sarone said:

On the surface, that might be true. However, one method of information extraction has been torture and discomfort of the target. Having access to the medical not only helps the interrogator keep the target alive longer, but it will also help in pushing the boundaries and limits of the target.

The Terminator: "I have detailed files on human anatomy."

Sarah Connor: "Makes you a more efficient killer, right?"

The Terminator: "Correct."

3 hours ago, SithArissa said:

Hoping there's basically a ninja spec in here

Can I play Japanese Sean Connery?

3 hours ago, KungFuFerret said:

I just hope they have a social oriented spy spec tree.

Yeah, would very much like to see a spec that's centered around "social engineering" to really make use out of having Deception as a career skill.

3 hours ago, Cannibal Halfling said:

The Legend Crafting Duty sounds like a lot of fun. I can think of a few of my players who would love to take that one for a spin.

"It seems you took my advice on theatricality a bit too literally..."

I wish they would give us more region books instead of rushing the career books so much. Both EOE and AOR are past due for region books.

So there's the Interrogator (I was convinced we would get one). They talk about social engineering too, so some kind of Spy Master or Infochant (they drop that name in the section on EotE). But Imposter is also mentioned, so perhaps a social character whose good with Indistinguishable but also got a network of Contacts.

Then there's talk of scouting and slicing, both covered by the core. There is also talk of survival by Constant Vigilance (name drop a talent, probably a good one to get in the third new tree). That could fit the Imposter quite well to essentially reduce the importance of Presence.

There's also talk of assassination, now Infiltrator is great at that, but only really with Engaged range combat. What about the 00's and their expertise with pistols. A spec with Freerunning and Ranged Light would fit well into the overall theme of the article. Something between Racer and Marshal.

So very excited for this book.

5 minutes ago, Richardbuxton said:

So there's the Interrogator (I was convinced we would get one). They talk about social engineering too, so some kind of Spy Master or Infochant (they drop that name in the section on EotE). But Imposter is also mentioned, so perhaps a social character whose good with Indistinguishable but also got a network of Contacts.

Then there's talk of scouting and slicing, both covered by the core. There is also talk of survival by Constant Vigilance (name drop a talent, probably a good one to get in the third new tree). That could fit the Imposter quite well to essentially reduce the importance of Presence.

There's also talk of assassination, now Infiltrator is great at that, but only really with Engaged range combat. What about the 00's and their expertise with pistols. A spec with Freerunning and Ranged Light would fit well into the overall theme of the article. Something between Racer and Marshal.

So very excited for this book.

"Infochant" seems a shoo-in for the book. It's such an iconic thing, and it gives the Spy career access to a merchant-type spec. Some talents like Informant and such would fit in nicely. Imposter sounds like a social engineer--somebody who excels at pretending to be who they're not (though I would have preferred to see something that was a mix of slicer and con man--a Kevin Mitnick-like character).

Assassination would make sense as a rules expansion.

Constant Vigilance might also be a Signature Ability! It has a very "counter-intel" sound to it.

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Definitely looks like the Melitto.

5 minutes ago, Enoch52 said:

Constant Vigilance might also be a Signature Ability! It has a very "counter-intel" sound to it.

Constant Vigilance is a talent from Endless Vigil, so it's unlikely it will be a signature ability.

The name of this image is "Sleeper Agent". Possible specialization?

...good point. I overlooked that.

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Sleeper Agent is an excellent name for a spec. Perhaps that's the one that will be Indistinguishable with Informant.

One of the parts discussed is Legend Crafting, that sounds a lot like a Signature Ability.

Some kind of "get out of dodge" Signature Ability would be great too, probably "with some important info" as an upgrade

14 hours ago, Blackbird888 said:

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Definitely looks like the Melitto.

Constant Vigilance is a talent from Endless Vigil, so it's unlikely it will be a signature ability.

Age of Rebellion seems to include a Separatist-aligned species. The Melitto weren't joined with them (am I correct? I checked 'pedia). Which species from the ranks of Dooku might we yet see?

THANKS for sharing this idea. While unconfirmed, I can buy what you're selling about Melitto.

20 hours ago, Richardbuxton said:

Some kind of "get out of dodge" Signature Ability would be great too, probably "with some important info" as an upgrade

That would be perfect, like a half-narrative signature. "Hasty Extraction" upon discovery, upgrades give you intel along with it, but on the low ones it's not so useful, but gets better the more XP you put ino it, thus reflecting that your spy developes a "nose" for the right intel.

On 7/7/2017 at 8:57 PM, Blackbird888 said:

The name of this image is "Sleeper Agent". Possible specialization?

It could be an excellent spec name for a deep cover operative, but sleeper agents have to have skills to support their cover. A sleeper agent could be a pilot, an officer, a government aide, a technician, a bodyguard, etc. Often enough they have these jobs before they are recruited as sleeper agents. In those cases I'd almost expect sleeper agents to have their own universal spec, like recruit. On the other hand, for those who start as spies they'd need talents that open up whatever skills are required for their cover. Either would be fun t. I expect sneak attack talents.

On the other hand, I could just as easily see sleeper agents being less of a spec and more of a rule set: a way of recruiting and cultivating assets, including informants, assassins, sabateurs, etc. A corresponding "Handler" spec with skills and talents meant to subvert the personnel of the Empie would be very fun.

In the mean time, the Mileeto on the cover looks like it could be from a ranged combat spec, the Bond/Bourne/Cassian Andor spec. Btw, I totally want that gun that he had. The one that could be configured for whatever the mission needed.

I could see Sleeper Agent working as a spec, it could have a cheap Well Rounded to show those other skills that they possess and a few talents that help with deception checks. The Spy career is missing a spec with deception based talents, I could see Sleeper Agent working, but there are other options for such a spec.

I wonder if an under-cover/disguise oriented spec might not also have skills as a decoy. It certainly has Star Wars precedents.

Taking a step away from spec-speculation, what about ships. I don't anticipate a space-combat oriented spec, so the fastest or best armed ships may not show up. On the other hand, surveillance craft, various imperial transport-craft, yachts, luxury cruisers might just work. Maybe U-wings, but those might be a better fit for Fully Operational.

Question: between the AoR core book and Strongholds of resistance, do we need this book to give us any further insight on safe-houses?

I'm wondering if we might see a Martial Artist repeat. I think it would be fitting for a Jason Bourne type...

On 7.07.2017 at 7:40 PM, Absol197 said:

Unfortunately, you're gonna have to. Initial release prediction is November 16th. And that's assuming that we don't get Fully Operationaled on this one, too.

What happened to Fully Operational?

10 hours ago, MitchPelon said:

In those cases I'd almost expect sleeper agents to have their own universal spec, like recruit.

That would be awesome, and even more so than with Recruit, it makes sense to always be a non-starting specialization. Sadly, I don't think FFG will give us this, as they've been terribly tight on universal specializations.

On 7.7.2017 at 7:40 PM, Absol197 said:

Unfortunately, you're gonna have to. Initial release prediction is November 16th. And that's assuming that we don't get Fully Operationaled on this one, too.

Yeah, especially since they're listing this as SWA47 - which is the same product ID they already used for 'Fully Operational'...

6 hours ago, whafrog said:

I'm wondering if we might see a Martial Artist repeat. I think it would be fitting for a Jason Bourne type...

I'm doubtful, as a lot of what Jason Bourne does in terms of hand-to-hand is generally covered by the Infiltrator, with the only thing really missing is Brawl as a bonus career skill, which is a minor detail at best.

True enough, I should have reviewed that.

5 hours ago, jhaelen said:

Yeah, especially since they're listing this as SWA47 - which is the same product ID they already used for 'Fully Operational'...

That's a typo in the article footer, which was probably left over from using a Fully Operational article as a template. I'm sure they'll fix it when the actual product listing for the book goes up.

Cyphers and Masks is SWA53.