Big Poetensity

By tgrubbs112, in X-Wing Squad Lists

I’m always trying to get Poe on the table. Thoughts on this list?

Biggs Darklighter — X-Wing 25
R4-D6 1
Integrated Astromech 0
Ship Total: 26
Lowhhrick — Auzituck Gunship 28
Push the Limit 3
Jyn Erso 2
Jan Ors 2
Ship Total: 35
Poe Dameron — T-70 X-Wing 31
Intensity 2
BB-8 2
Primed Thrusters 1
Autothrusters 2
Black One 1
Ship Total: 39

Lowhhrick can support Biggs till he dies. Then still synergies with Poe. Poe helps shed target locks keeping Biggs alive longer. Lowhhrick has ptl so he can reinforce and jyn every turn.

Edited by tgrubbs112

I was thinking of something similar, Expertise and Zeb in place of PtL and Jyn on Lowhhrick. Everything is the same. We'll need Black One to pull off target locks from ordnance squad. High PS alpha will still roast the squad, though.

I'm only commenting on this thread because I like Poe. The rest of your list is a summary of everything wrong with the Rebel faction.

Poe needs an initiative bid to get the most out of Black One. Other PS9's will bypass Black One if you get stuck with initiative. Dengar/Tel would be an especially bad matchup for you, all those munitions would target Poe for certain.

That's the PS 8 Poe right? Not so sure about him with Intensity build.

32 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:

That's the PS 8 Poe right? Not so sure about him with Intensity build.

You're right. I totally missed the point difference.

@tgrubbs112 PS8 isn't bad for Regen Poe. Dancing Poe needs PS9. I recommend you take the whole thing back to the drawing board.

Just now, jmswood said:

You're right. I totally missed the point difference.

@tgrubbs112 PS8 isn't bad for Regen Poe. Dancing Poe needs PS9. I recommend you take the whole thing back to the drawing board.

And besides, dancing poe should not be in a squadron like this. The entire point of his mobility goes out of the window if he is shackled to biggs.
The list would probably work fine with the cheap regen poe though. (adapt/auto/PA/R5P9/B1).

I was looking at a similar build with Nora as opposed to Poe.

1 hour ago, GrogEgrog said:

I was looking at a similar build with Nora as opposed to Poe.

@GrogEgrog I like Norra as well. And with biggs being the most un-fun ship to fly, what about something like this.

Norra Wexley — ARC-170 29
Push the Limit 3
Nien Nunb 1
R2-D2 4
Alliance Overhaul 0
Ship Total: 37
Lowhhrick — Auzituck Gunship 28
Selflessness 1
Wookiee Commandos 1
Ship Total: 30
Braylen Stramm — ARC-170 25
Gunner 5
R3-A2 2
Alliance Overhaul 0
Ship Total: 32

Lowhhrick might be able to tank just enough of the initial alpha strike to allow Norra to live and then 4 straight past everyone (green from Nien) for the regen and the rear-arc shot.

1 hour ago, ModernPenguin said:

And besides, dancing poe should not be in a squadron like this. The entire point of his mobility goes out of the window if he is shackled to biggs.
The list would probably work fine with the cheap regen poe though. (adapt/auto/PA/R5P9/B1).

Agree with this and everyone that said PS8 poe won't work as well as I'd hoped.

Actually I went with this today. It was trolly fun. Needs a little bit more bite than the Nora though

Heavy D (99)

Lowhhrick (33) - Auzituck Gunship
Selflessness (1), Jyn Erso (2), Jan Ors (2)

Biggs Darklighter (29) - X-Wing
R2-D2 (4), Integrated Astromech (0)

Norra Wexley (37) - ARC-170
Expertise (4), Tail Gunner (2), R5-K6 (2), Alliance Overhaul (0)

I've had Jyn/Jan on the U-Wing and Jyn triggers very rarely. Do you manage to get use out of her?

On 7.7.2017 at 7:23 AM, tgrubbs112 said:

Lowhhrick — Auzituck Gunship 28 Push the Limit 3

FYI, you can use Experimental interface instead and add a free EPT

Also, personally, I prefer Kanan+Jyn to have a more open dial

Against a 2 ship build I was using Reinforce more. Game actually came down to Low vs Kath and J/J became extremely useful as I Kaths positioning could have left him with shots on either the fore or aft side.

I want to play the list again with J/j as I think I might get more use out of it against a larger amount of ships.

9 minutes ago, GrogEgrog said:

Against a 2 ship build I was using Reinforce more. Game actually came down to Low vs Kath and J/J became extremely useful as I Kaths positioning could have left him with shots on either the fore or aft side.

I want to play the list again with J/j as I think I might get more use out of it against a larger amount of ships.

why not use experimental interface and r4d6 instead of r2d2?

13 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

why not use experimental interface and r4d6 instead of r2d2?

No rebel transport. No Yt2400. Though when I do I'll have to work interface onto Low

ah ok, I didn't realize where the upgrades are from.

8 hours ago, GrogEgrog said:

Actually I went with this today. It was trolly fun. Needs a little bit more bite than the Nora though

Heavy D (99)

Lowhhrick (33) - Auzituck Gunship
Selflessness (1), Jyn Erso (2), Jan Ors (2)

Biggs Darklighter (29) - X-Wing
R2-D2 (4), Integrated Astromech (0)

Norra Wexley (37) - ARC-170
Expertise (4), Tail Gunner (2), R5-K6 (2), Alliance Overhaul (0)

No Poe in this list though, so is it really Big Poetensity?

On 7/7/2017 at 10:28 AM, GrogEgrog said:

I was looking at a similar build with Nora as opposed to Poe.

I won a small casual wave 11 win-a-ship tournament yesterday with this exact list:

Norra Wexley — ARC-170 29
Push the Limit 3
Nien Nunb 1
R2-D2 4
Alliance Overhaul 0
Ship Total: 37
Lowhhrick — Auzituck Gunship 28
Selflessness 1
Wookiee Commandos 1
Ship Total: 30
Braylen Stramm — ARC-170 25
Gunner 5
R3-A2 2
Alliance Overhaul 0
Ship Total: 32

It worked really well. The list presents a bunch of bad options for the opponent. If Norra makes it to the end game, she can typically out duel an opponent, so they want to take her off the board first. When my opponent went for Her first, I let the first shot get through as long as it did less than 3 damage. Then for the 2nd shot I would spend my Norra Mods to reduce it as best I could, or if I couldn't reduce the damage with the defensive TL/focus, then i'd use selflessness. Vs three ships lists if all 3 got her in arc on the first engage I could typically disengage well with the green 4 straight.

If they go for Lowhhrick first (and they typically don't) I'm handing out stress and Norra is using all her Mods offensively.

If they go for the Stressbot first (and about half choose this target over Norra) Then I use selflessness on whichever shot does 3+ damage. (I don't use it on the first shot because that might convince them to immediately switch targets to Lowhhrick). This feels like the best initial target vs the list, but in my late mid-late games with both Norra and Lowhhrick on the board, the opponent MUST kill lowhhrick first, because Norra becomes almost unkillable with the reinforce from Lowhhrick, the TL that can be spend defensively, and the r2 regens.

After playing it several matches I'm tempted to try to fit C-3P0 onto Norra and drop the rookie Commandos from Lowhhrick because in 1 match vs Dengar, Norra almost got nuked by the 2nd turn. I'd have to plan the first engage even better since I wouldn't be able to 4 straight out of it though.

On 7/14/2017 at 1:10 AM, GrogEgrog said:

Actually I went with this today. It was trolly fun. Needs a little bit more bite than the Nora though

Heavy D (99)

Lowhhrick (33) - Auzituck Gunship
Selflessness (1), Jyn Erso (2), Jan Ors (2)

Biggs Darklighter (29) - X-Wing
R2-D2 (4), Integrated Astromech (0)

Norra Wexley (37) - ARC-170
Expertise (4), Tail Gunner (2), R5-K6 (2), Alliance Overhaul (0)

I ran one similar today.

Lowhhrick

Selflessness

Jan Ors

Rey

Biggs

R4-D6

IA

Norra

PTL

VT

R2-D2

Tailgunner

Title

99 points

Biggs survives waaaaay longer than he should. Played it against Fennn Guri, and Kavil. All mindlinked. Biggs died 2 turns before the game ended, Lowhhrick lost all sheilds (2 from selflessness), and Norra lost 1 sheild which was regened. Very potent. I also want to try this with Miranda with Sabine and bomblets.

These lists have neither Poe nor Intensity.

2 hours ago, BlodVargarna said:

These lists have neither Poe nor Intensity.

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On 7/6/2017 at 11:23 PM, tgrubbs112 said:

I’m always trying to get Poe on the table. Thoughts on this list?

Biggs Darklighter — X-Wing 25
R4-D6 1
Integrated Astromech 0
Ship Total: 26
Lowhhrick — Auzituck Gunship 28
Push the Limit 3
Jyn Erso 2
Jan Ors 2
Ship Total: 35
Poe Dameron — T-70 X-Wing 31
Intensity 2
BB-8 2
Primed Thrusters 1
Autothrusters 2
Black One 1
Ship Total: 39

Lowhhrick can support Biggs till he dies. Then still synergies with Poe. Poe helps shed target locks keeping Biggs alive longer. Lowhhrick has ptl so he can reinforce and jyn every turn.

That's disgusting.. I love it!

Seems to be super tanky. So in theory you can give Biggs an Evade with Jan/Jyn, give him another evade with reinfirce/lowhhrick, and then still roll for 2 with focus. I'd try finding a way to put com relay on Poe to bank the evades and make him tankier.

I foresee this rebel tanking issue being very difficult to play against.

26 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

That's disgusting.. I love it!

Seems to be super tanky. So in theory you can give Biggs an Evade with Jan/Jyn, give him another evade with reinfirce/lowhhrick, and then still roll for 2 with focus. I'd try finding a way to put com relay on Poe to bank the evades and make him tankier.

And then swap PTL for selflessness and add experimental interface if points allow, or at least ASTS/trickshot if not

I don't think Poetensity likes flying in formation with Biggs. He should be trying to flank or other shenanigans which usually keeps him too far from Biggs to make Biggs worth taking. Overall I like what you're doing with the Wookie and Biggs though.

Edited by Joe Censored
2 hours ago, Joe Censored said:

I don't think Poetensity likes flying in formation with Biggs. He should be trying to flank or other shenanigans which usually keeps him too far from Biggs to make Biggs worth taking. Overall I like what you're doing with the Wookie and Biggs though.

I think that's the thing...you can fly Poe with the formation, then break him off to do his own thing after the engagement. I had a similar idea...

Lowhhrick (28)
Rage (1)
Kanan Jarrus (3)
Inspiring Recruit (1)

Biggs Darklighter (25)
R4-D6 (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Intensity (2)
BB-8 (2)
Primed Thrusters (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Total: 100

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Last weekend we had two tournaments locally where Poetensity took first place. Both lists used this Poe and are 98 points:

Poe Dameron (PS9) - T-70 X-Wing (33)

Intensity (2), R2D2 (4), Comm Relay (3), Autothrusters (2), Black One (1) - Ship Total: 45

One list used:

Miranda Doni - K-Wing (29)

Twin Laser Turret (6), Sabine Wren (2), Homing Missiles (5), Bomblet Generator (3), Cluster Mines (4), Extra Munitions (2), Advanced SLAM (2) - Ship Total: 53

The other list used:

Dash Rendar - YT-2400 (36)

Lone Wolf (2), Heavy Laser Cannon (7), Rey (2), Outrider (5), Smuggling Compartments (0), Rigged Cargo Chute (1) - Ship Total: 53

Edited by T70 Driver