Abilty states that before he is defeated you may play a card if I choose guard would my opponents dice that was dealing the lethal damage be able to be removed before it happens?

No

Yeah okay sorry found the willpower thread, another question can us you noble sacrifice on obi

Yes, if you use Noble Sacrifice on ObiWan you still get the free card.

However, my personal opinion, in most cases, Noble Sacrifice is not a very useful card (it's so situational)

No i ment noble sacrifice as the free card to defeat obi wan before he is defeated but if that was allowed then would the effect chain? Since he is defeated again?

Oh, yeah, that should work actually! It happens before he's defeated, so that makes sense. You're still probably better off getting One With the Force or Decisive Blow for free, plus it's very rare that an opponent will kill you before all their characters are activated, but it should be a legal play.

Sorry I edited the question so would it in turn chain obiwan ability again ?

17 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

Oh, yeah, that should work actually! It happens before he's defeated, so that makes sense. You're still probably better off getting One With the Force or Decisive Blow for free, plus it's very rare that an opponent will kill you before all their characters are activated, but it should be a legal play.

Pretty sure it doesn't work like this, you can't defeat a character twice and the verbiage of noble sacrifice denotes a dependence on the defeat to exhaust a character.

4 hours ago, SwagonBallZ said:

Pretty sure it doesn't work like this, you can't defeat a character twice and the verbiage of noble sacrifice denotes a dependence on the defeat to exhaust a character.

You play the card before he would be defeated, so the defeat from Noble Sacrifice triggers before the defeat from Obi-Wan taking damage. Obi Wan isn't defeated twice by this, he's defeated before he is defeated, so the other defeat never happens.

So what I said was true, from a certain point of view...

Whichever point of view you look at it from, Lukas' is the one that matters, and he's ruled that you can't do it.

Which is honestly against the way the rules actually work, and he even suggests the combo in a Team Covenant video... but none of that has ever stopped FFG before.

If Lukas said so, that's the rule.

This game is kind of like X-Wing that way, where instead of having a strong set of rules, we have a dictatorship, and whatever Lukas says goes.

Also note, my last paragraph was a quote from Obi Wan himself, in the scene in Episode V when he's trying to cover up the fact that he lied to Luke and misled him in Episode IV to believe that Darth Vader killed Anakin, so I did mean that lightheartedly.

Nvm left a page out when I was reading it

Actually, it looks like today's FAQ lets you use Obi-Wan's death to play Noble Sacrifice, and then any other card you want. Too bad it's worded so poorly, but it sounds like the "first Noble Sacrifice" in this example is played after your opponent defeats Obi Wan, since they say it's played using Obi's ability:

If I use Obi-Wan Kenobi’s (EaW 37) ability to play a Noble Sacrifice (Aw 118) from my discard pile before he is defeated, what happens? Can I play a second copy of Noble Sacrifice, and then another card off of the second Noble Sacrifice?

You can play a second copy of Noble Sacrifice. However, only one Noble Sacrifice has an effect. Before Obi-Wan Kenobi is defeated, you can trigger his ability to play a Noble Sacrifice. Then, before he is defeated from that Noble Sacrifice, you can play another copy of it since “Before” effects interrupt the game. Repeat this to then play any other Blue card you want from your discard pile or hand. Then the second Noble Sacrifice resolves, and Obi-Wan is defeated and you can choose and exhaust a character. However, the next Noble Sacrifice that resolves does nothing, since you can no longer defeat Obi-Wan; he is already defeated.

Yeah, looks like they reversed that ruling. Which is fine, because the previous felt a lot like a "Uhhm, we didn't really think of that, no you can't do it!"

Although the new FAQ entry is one of the worst I've ever seen. It reads like a **** Monty Python sketch.