Rebel Intensity list needs wingman

By BlodVargarna, in X-Wing Squad Lists

I have two slippery T-70s with Intensity. I need a third ship. I have 27 points left over.

Inten70s

"Snap" Wexley (32) - T-70 X-Wing
Intensity (2), R2 Astromech (1), Primed Thrusters (1), Integrated Astromech (0)

Poe Dameron (41) - T-70 X-Wing
Intensity (2), BB-8 (2), Primed Thrusters (1), Black One (1), Autothrusters (2)

Do you specifically want the third ship to have Intensity ?

Poe looks cool - and suits Intensity down to the ground, since he doesn't have to spend his focus, it's there to 'restock' Intensity every turn (barring something like Hotshot Copilot), meaning he gets focus/evade or focus/target lock at all times. I'm not sure Snap is going to do so well; with an R2 astromech in hand, I feel like the extra couple of points for Pattern Analyser and Push The Limit would probably do you better; giving you boost and focus and target lock every turn.

27 Points - especially in a resistance squad - makes me think M9-G8 Jess Pava - a great source of rerolls for herself and a friend - but she may have difficulty staying in formation with Snap and Poe give that they'll be boosting and barrel rolling all over the place.

A support ship able to hand out focus tokens might be nice; that way you can keep focus topped up if facing someone who can take it off you. I'm not sure if a particularly well equipped Kyle Katarn will fit in that points value, but Ahsoka might. Throw in Sabine + Ion Bombs, Thermal Detonators or Connor Nets and you've got some control that helps take advantage of your ability to outfly people.

I've been flying different wingmen including Ashoka and Jess. Poe and Snap (whose free boost synergizes well with Intensity) are hard to keep close enough to Jess to make her rerolls work.

Ashoka is a decent support ship but after flying her last night, she's hard to keep in range 1 of both ships also, I found that this list with VI Ashoka in a captured TIE lacks offensive output.

change prime thrusters to Comm Relay. Especially on Poe. Than he carries an evade token. BB-8 for a focus with intensity. He moves, than can TL or boost for an action.

I personally don't like intensity on anybody else but Poe. Poe keeps his focus, so you can un-exhaust intensity every turn, but Snap needs to keep one to do it.

If you go the Comm relay route, you could do a Green snap A-wing.

Green squad 19 - char refit, -2, snap shot 2, juke 2, Title 0, autothrusters 2. total 23 points.

You could do comm relay on both snap and Poe and have 100 points, or do just Poe and do a 2 point bid.

Here are a couple options. Bombing shenanigans Ahsoka can provide support and even fire then get the title back when something blows up.

Ahsoka Tano (17)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Sabine Wren (2)
Scavenger Crane (2)
Ion Bombs (2)
Captured TIE (1)
Sabine's Masterpiece (1)

Standard stresshog. It'll get blown up real quick.

Gold Squadron Pilot (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
R3-A2 (2)
BTL-A4 Y-Wing (0)

5 minutes ago, Biggsy_boy said:

change prime thrusters to Comm Relay. Especially on Poe. Than he carries an evade token. BB-8 for a focus with intensity. He moves, than can TL or boost for an action.

I personally don't like intensity on anybody else but Poe. Poe keeps his focus, so you can un-exhaust intensity every turn, but Snap needs to keep one to do it.

If you go the Comm relay route, you could do a Green snap A-wing.

Green squad 19 - char refit, -2, snap shot 2, juke 2, Title 0, autothrusters 2. total 23 points.

You could do comm relay on both snap and Poe and have 100 points, or do just Poe and do a 2 point bid.

I've played a lot of BB-8 Poe, and he really wants Primed Thrusters. I've thought about going this same route with Comm Relay/Intensity, but Poe would lose a ton of maneuverability if he lost PT.

I do like that Snap/Juke A-Wing idea. I always like Snap/Juke A-Wing ideas. ;)

Edited by gennataos
3 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Here are a couple options. Bombing shenanigans Ahsoka can provide support and even fire then get the title back when something blows up.

Ahsoka Tano (17)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Sabine Wren (2)
Scavenger Crane (2)
Ion Bombs (2)
Captured TIE (1)
Sabine's Masterpiece (1)

Standard stresshog. It'll get blown up real quick.

Gold Squadron Pilot (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
R3-A2 (2)
BTL-A4 Y-Wing (0)

I've played a lot of BB-8 Poe, and he really wants Primed Thrusters. I've thought about going this same route with Comm Relay/Intensity, but Poe would lose a ton of maneuverability if he lost PT.

I do like that Snap/Juke A-Wing idea. I always like Snap/Juke A-Wing ideas. ;)

I don't disagree about the maneuverability when losing primed thrusters, but the same argument could be made about pattern analyzer. With comm relay, you have evade, focus, barrel, plus either a TL or boost. And if you barrel before your maneuver and boost after, you're still ridiculously maneuverable. And unless you're up against stress dealers, you shouldn't be doing a whole lot of reds with this build anyway.

And I KNOW! Snap A's are soooooo much fun. If you're good at predicting your opponent, anyway.

1 minute ago, Biggsy_boy said:

I don't disagree about the maneuverability when losing primed thrusters, but the same argument could be made about pattern analyzer. With comm relay, you have evade, focus, barrel, plus either a TL or boost. And if you barrel before your maneuver and boost after, you're still ridiculously maneuverable. And unless you're up against stress dealers, you shouldn't be doing a whole lot of reds with this build anyway.

I guess that's where I don't see how you'd fly it. I fly Poe as a flanker and he spends a whole lot of time dancing around rocks and really needs BB-8 available after a T-roll or K-turn. Were you planning on doing strafing runs?...get your shot then blast out for another pass?

2 minutes ago, gennataos said:

I guess that's where I don't see how you'd fly it. I fly Poe as a flanker and he spends a whole lot of time dancing around rocks and really needs BB-8 available after a T-roll or K-turn. Were you planning on doing strafing runs?...get your shot then blast out for another pass?

Something along those lines. It depends on the list, but the one that have ready is a Poe/Dash build. Poe will do strafing runs and Dash does Dash things. It also depends what I'm up against. If there is alot of ordinance, than Poe will stay close to Dash and use the title to make sure no ones shooting missiles. I like to keep my strategies flexible, but I don't think I would use primed thrusters enough to get more value than comm relay. The other reason is, if I spend the evade token, I should have a turn or 2 after my strafing run to re-gain that evade.

I found with Intensity primed thrusters is where it's at. Poe (and especially Snap) can pull a K-turn or T-roll and then boost to get the Intensity for a focus. Next turn, Poe reveals a green and can barrel roll, grab a focus/evade and then clear stress giving him a TL, second focus, or a boost.

I see the utility in saving an evade and it seems pretty tanky, but I think there are better tanky builds for Poe. This Poe needs to arc dodge.

A stress hog seems like a decent addition to the list.

Yeah, I think this just comes down to personal preference. There's certainly no objectively better way to kit Poe out, it's just how people prefer to fly him.

I threw out the stresshog idea because it's something I knew would fit off the top of my head. That thing will probably die so fast, it'll make your head spin.

Edited by gennataos

Well the good news is if they are shooting stress hog, they aren't shooting Poe.

5 minutes ago, gennataos said:

Yeah, I think this just comes down to personal preference. There's certainly no objectively better way to kit Poe out, it's just how people prefer to fly him.

I threw out the stresshog idea because it's something I knew would fit off the top of my head. That thing will probably die so fast, it'll make your head spin.

Flying style. I agree. And I think that any of the ideas could change next week when the card actually comes out. Someone will probably come up with something completely different that no one has thought of til now.