Cadilus argument as a fellow newbie seems plausible....it has swayed me.

##unvote Cadilus

##vote Truthiness

@ovinomanc3r yeah, I originally read that post as pointing to an earlier claim, except you did such a good job of not actually writing a claim that makes any sense the post you say has it I eliminated from contention. The only claim that makes sense from that gobbledygook is seer, and you also posted you arent a Jedi. Also, since it sure looks like no one caught it, yes, Its on you big guy.

Back to business, I guess I'm willing to follow Biggs on Truth.

But the thing is;

1. Scum may not have needed Gnips doc to peg Gink. As I pointed out earlier, Gnips signalled his role by calling Ginks bluff.

2. I still really think they have a jailkeeper. If you've got the doc on lock, you can kill one of those higher priority targets.

3. The scum may have just decided to kill a doc when they could.

Still, I'm willing to follow on this. I feel like Biggs makes a compelling case.

##vote truthiness

Pretty sure that's hammer. Have fun getting hanged for this tomorrow Biggs.

Well this is fun. Have fun getting hanged tomorrow Biggs. Guess I shouldn't have trusted you. Scum just killed our chat.

Ack, somehow posted between edits to result in double/not double post. Sorry! @Onidsen get in here.

1 hour ago, BiggsIRL said:

It puts him in a trap where if I am still alive he looks scummy, but if I die he's not killing a power role, he's offing Vanilla town.

If EVERYONE "knows" I'm vanilla then scum can safely ignore me.

I see a logic there at the same time I am not able to put all the pieces together but enough. I suspect about him and I think I trust you.

However I would like to point that you put him in a place where he cannot reply anything even being townie. Nothing bad if he is scum of course.

The only thing I am sure about it is you being on that chat cause anyone else counterclaim.

## vote truthiness

14 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

and you also posted you arent a Jedi.

Before my claim, in a joke post playing the stupid game of beeh beep boop with CNinja.

Sorry. Hammer fell. @Onidsen

Quiet all, that more than enough votes now

Sorry for being slightly MIA, folks. Came down with what feels like bronchitis this morning and I've been in bed most of it. That was a quick hammer. Day is over, everyone stop talking! I'll have a turnover post up soon

Okay, so @BiggsIRL is a claimed cop but wasn't killed 2 times in a row, at least have you got results to us?

On another note, don't claim uselessly like Mad did, it places a target on your back and that is mostly not useful if you get killed

When Biggs posted his emphatic logic to indict truthi I just felt like something was off. Now Truthi and our chat is dead, and my ability to believe what Biggs is saying has been severely shaken. Likelihood of a Gink busk led by Biggs to get cred seems more likely as I feel Biggs might have overplayed the trust by going so hard for Truthiness while in the chat with him.

So I am going to go ahead and start off with a vote for today.

## vote biggsIRL

****. Whir.

Interpretation:

****. Biggs WTF? We definitely need an explanation.

Okay, point #1, why on earth haven't scum killed me yet? Possibility #1 - they have been roleblocking me each night. Possibility #2 - they have a rolecop and knew I was lying from Night 1. Possibility #3 - they plan to run a train on me today. Maybe some combination of the two.

Point #2 why on earth would I have hunted Truthiness down if I was all but cleared town, I was in a masonry with him, and he said he was going to invite more people into the masonry that were effectively cleared town, if I was scum?

I had what I thought was a good read. It wasn't. I'm very, very sorry for Truthiness, but frankly an unconfirmed masonry ain't all that awesome for town.

And if you think I fake claimed cop, bused a scum buddy on a scum tell nobody else picked up on, and DIDN'T expect the ACTUAL cop to investigate me because "hey two cops, seems kinda scummy", then you're a **** fool.

1 minute ago, BiggsIRL said:

Okay, point #1, why on earth haven't scum killed me yet? Possibility #1 - they have been roleblocking me each night. Possibility #2 - they have a rolecop and knew I was lying from Night 1. Possibility #3 - they plan to run a train on me today. Maybe some combination of the two.

Point #2 why on earth would I have hunted Truthiness down if I was all but cleared town, I was in a masonry with him, and he said he was going to invite more people into the masonry that were effectively cleared town, if I was scum?

I had what I thought was a good read. It wasn't. I'm very, very sorry for Truthiness, but frankly an unconfirmed masonry ain't all that awesome for town.

And if you think I fake claimed cop, bused a scum buddy on a scum tell nobody else picked up on, and DIDN'T expect the ACTUAL cop to investigate me because "hey two cops, seems kinda scummy", then you're a **** fool.

true, have you actually been roleblocked?

So yeah, best case scenario I sucked up some roleblockers for the last two nights, and bagged someone day 1. Sorry for lying to the town, but it was too good a gambit to pass up.

There's the problem, I have no night action, so I have no way of knowing.

Kinda surprised Mad didn't fire off his kill tonight, after he had claimed. Roleblocker probably got him instead of me. Safer play, but then why let me live?

We don't know if there is a roleblocker

I wouldn't be surprised if I got run down today. @BrobaFett is already starting that party.

With that in mind, and in case that happens I ask that everyone look very carefully at who voted for whom, and when.

1 minute ago, Visovics said:

We don't know if there is a roleblocker

We don't know it for a fact, no. But I can suspect. It fits with the pattern of kills.

Gonna go review the thread again. Voting analysis time.

Just now, BiggsIRL said:

Gonna go review the thread again. Voting analysis time.

List time!