U-Wing characters?

By KelRiever, in X-Wing

Why is Cassian a pilot with higher skill than Bodhi?

The only excuses that can be made are stretching. In anticipation of that stretching, here's a list of some:

  • Bodhi's stats are after he was tortured
  • Cassian has a higher skill because Star Wars character skills (and all things they can do across all products from all companies everywhere) are based on merchandising
  • The more lines you have in a Star Wars movie, the better you are at everything.

Seriously, lol, I'm not really bent or anything, I find it tremendously funny. And nothing really flies other than a band-aid excuse, I think. This is clearly not the first or even close to the first time this has happened. I suppose I get it; we're already stretching to fit Rogue One characters into X-wing. The story of the Rogue One characters is not really a story of a bunch of pilots, and I think that's part of the reaching. Still...come on, Cassian is a non-force using spy! Bodhi is a pilot who was a pilot first and also has a side job in pilot.

Even more importantly, why is there no K-2SO?

Fan speculation is rampant!

Edited by KelRiever

Because cassian plays a bigger part in the movie, so youre right about that

Theoretically

Edited by ficklegreendice

Because Cassian is a spy and Bodhi is a truck driver.

Oh, not to mention, while Cassian is a spy with a side of pilot on the weekends, he also flies better than a bunch of other professional, dedicated rebel pilots. :)

I know, I know, Academy Skill Pilot...1. :rolleyes: That's what you get at the Dark Side Academy! Fraud!

Not to worry, though, because all the Us suck in this game

Serioiusly, pivot wing (landing) shouldve been permanent lightning reflexes

And cass shouldve worked on his own ship as well

What a waste of a beautiful model

Edited by ficklegreendice

Well, with all the mines coming out, Speed ) will be at a premium!

Otherwise, we all got the kit for Expertise :P

Green squadron pilots have an elite. Arvel Crynyd does not.

Sometimes, there is no rhyme or reason to what FFG does. It's best to not try to find an explanation.

FFG made the U-wing while the Rogue One movie was still in production. The people at Disney/LFL divulge just enough information to manufacturers to get merchandise on the shelves before movie release dates, but not enough information to risk spoiling key story details. Also, the maneufacturers might be given something to work with, and then those details change in filming or editing. Not all the manufacturers get or use the same information either.

It's the same reason the TIE Striker in the Rogue One source book has a bomb bay, but our Striker in the game doesn't get a bomb upgrade.

The TFA core, T-70 and TIE/fo were all developed for the game before the Ep7 movie released.

Players would mostly prefer expansion devolpment to follow the movies, but FFG has an obligation to make money for Disney before the movie comes out. As a consequence we'll see more expansions like Heroes of the Resistance to patch expansions that weren't developed with the power of hindsight.

I predict we'll get a Rogue One themed aces pack.

Thematic side note: there's no indication in the movie of Bodhi being a better or worse pilot than Cassian. Bodhi doesn't even fly the U-wing, which is Cassian's ship.

Edited by jmswood

Well, technically, Han Solo could be the worst pilot of all the pilots in the Star Wars movies, but just really, really, really lucky.

Otherwise, when you're character title says 'pilot' and the other character title is basically spy, that should count for something more, shouldn't it?

5 minutes ago, KelRiever said:

Well, technically, Han Solo could be the worst pilot of all the pilots in the Star Wars movies, but just really, really, really lucky.

Han shot first = Han PS9. It fits.

Actually someone made a compelling case once on these forums that Chewie is a better pilot than Han. Think about it.

Episode 4: Han left Chewie at the controls so that he could go man a turret.

Episode 6: Han didn't even fly the Falcon- he let Lando do it. And on the Shuttle Tyderium once again he let Chewie do the flying. D

I think the only time on the movies that Han did any tricky flying was in the asteroid field.

14 minutes ago, Herowannabe said:

Actually someone made a compelling case once on these forums that Chewie is a better pilot than Han. Think about it.

Episode 4: Han left Chewie at the controls so that he could go man a turret.

Episode 6: Han didn't even fly the Falcon- he let Lando do it. And on the Shuttle Tyderium once again he let Chewie do the flying. D

I think the only time on the movies that Han did any tricky flying was in the asteroid field.

Maybe chewie doesn't sit comfortably at the gun?

2 hours ago, Herowannabe said:

Actually someone made a compelling case once on these forums that Chewie is a better pilot than Han. Think about it.

"You ' ve never heard of the Millennium Falcon ? It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs"

Han doesnt even say he flew the kessel run in under 12 parsecs, only the Millenium Falcon did, so for all we know, Chewie could have been behind the controls there too :P

16 minutes ago, wurms said:

"You ' ve never heard of the Millennium Falcon ? It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs"

Han doesnt even say he flew the kessel run in under 12 parsecs, only the Millenium Falcon did, so for all we know, Chewie could have been behind the controls there too :P

Or Lando.

Or whoever Lando got the Falcon from.

Or whoever that guy got it from...

It's actually a SUPER ambiguous line. He's IMPLYING that he's hot ****, but...

Because it's Cassian's ship.

Bodhi Rook may be a better pilot overall - but he's probably used to flying Lambdas, Zetas , or similar imperial craft. The U-wing is a different type of ship made by a different manufacturer, and so Bodhi lacks experience with it.

This is exactly the same as in real life - pilots can't usually just jump into a cockpit and fly away - they need specific training and certification to fly each type of aircraft. Every craft has different flight characteristics - weight, power, number of engines, stall speed, rate of climb, takeoff and landing distances to name but a few - and that's only civilian craft, before you get into weapons, defences, and other military equipment. It would be even more applicable to spaceships.

Imagine taking a Dakota pilot and putting them in a Mosquito - they'd probably be able to fly it, but they wouldn't have anything like the proficiency of a trained and experienced Mossie pilot! Simlarly, Bhodi is not trained to fly the U-wing and lacks experience with it, while Cassian flies it regularly, and has probably been doing so for months or years.

Edited by Hedgehogmech

Cassian is a highly trained spy and covert operative. Bodhi is the star wars equivalent of a semi-truck driver. He's not even a combat pilot.

3 hours ago, Herowannabe said:

I think the only time on the movies that Han did any tricky flying was in the asteroid field.

But sir! The possibility of successfully navigating an asteroid field is approximately 3,720 to 1!

So arguably, Han is hot ****.

4 hours ago, jmswood said:

FFG made the U-wing while the Rogue One movie was still in production. The people at Disney/LFL divulge just enough information to manufacturers to get merchandise on the shelves before movie release dates, but not enough information to risk spoiling key story details. Also, the maneufacturers might be given something to work with, and then those details change in filming or editing. Not all the manufacturers get or use the same information either.

It's the same reason the TIE Striker in the Rogue One source book has a bomb bay, but our Striker in the game doesn't get a bomb upgrade.

The TFA core, T-70 and TIE/fo were all developed for the game before the Ep7 movie released.

Players would mostly prefer expansion devolpment to follow the movies, but FFG has an obligation to make money for Disney before the movie comes out. As a consequence we'll see more expansions like Heroes of the Resistance to patch expansions that weren't developed with the power of hindsight.

I predict we'll get a Rogue One themed aces pack.

Thematic side note: there's no indication in the movie of Bodhi being a better or worse pilot than Cassian. Bodhi doesn't even fly the U-wing, which is Cassian's ship.

This 100%. Exactly why they re-released Poe as Ps9. K2 pilots that ship for almost the entire movie, he even flys through a death star shot, and he's nowhere to be seen in the expansion. FFG QA dept. needs to get it's **** together.

1 hour ago, wurms said:

"You ' ve never heard of the Millennium Falcon ? It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs"

Han doesnt even say he flew the kessel run in under 12 parsecs, only the Millenium Falcon did, so for all we know, Chewie could have been behind the controls there too :P

Didn't Rey mention that Han made the Kessel run in 14 parcecs and he replied with 12? Or did she also refer to the ship

2 hours ago, Moneyinvolved said:

Didn't Rey mention that Han made the Kessel run in 14 parcecs and he replied with 12? Or did she also refer to the ship

She was talking about the ship. Just checked...

My favorite theory is that the PS of the pilot card for "Cassian" actually reflects K2 manning the controls while the ability is Cassian in the copilot seat (as he always is) coordinating friendlies.

2 hours ago, migs6000 said:

This 100%. Exactly why they re-released Poe as Ps9. K2 pilots that ship for almost the entire movie, he even flys through a death star shot, and he's nowhere to be seen in the expansion. FFG QA dept. needs to get it's **** together.

Just to be fair, it's not FFG. They are beholden to Disney and have to the best they can with whatever pre-movie-release info that Disney decides to share with them. Let's give credit where credit is due.

EDIT: also, I suspect that we will see K-2SO as one of the cards designed by one of the recent world Champions. My guess is that it will be Nand Torf's card.

Edited by Herowannabe

The only question anyone should be asking about the U-Wing pilots is why do we have Heff Tobber as a pilot, who no one gives two ***** about, but we don't have K-2SO ?

Its **** near criminal.

7 hours ago, migs6000 said:

This 100%. Exactly why they re-released Poe as Ps9. K2 pilots that ship for almost the entire movie, he even flys through a death star shot, and he's nowhere to be seen in the expansion. FFG QA dept. needs to get it's **** together.

Once again, this is not QA's fault. It's the pressure Disney LFL puts on companies to deliver toys and products for the new movie installments on the same release dates.

I'm okay with it because we all know that every ship is going to end up getting an aces pack at some point any way. We'll probably get a Scarif pack with a U-wing and a Striker. New mod for the striker "Heavy Frame" that adds a crew or bomb slot and new pilots and upgrades for the U-wing.

Heff Tobber and no Laren Joma who was in the film. I can only agree with the development prior to movie release. Still...the result is silly to me.