So begins the lightsaber combat challenge between myself and @awayputurwpn...dice rolls may be found here: https://dice.owenmead.com/davervsapw

Hasal Nisseen gapes at the Adegan crystal--the largest he's ever seen. The Force has blessed me , he muses. I must be the first Jedi in generations to behold this artifact of the Light Side .

A presence intrudes on his musings. A dark presence. The first Jedi , he thinks, but perhaps not the first wielder of the Force...

My Destiny roll was one Dark Side, so combined with APW's roll of 2 light, we'll begin with 1 Dark and 2 Light Destiny.

After posting this, I will make a roll to determine whether Vigilance or Cool will be used for initiative. I'll roll a d%; 1-50=Vigilance, 51-100=Cool. Since neither character really has ranged combat abilities, our starting positions will be mostly a matter of flavor, so I invite APW to choose wherever he'd like his character to begin.

@awayputurwpn

I rolled a 60, so we'll use Cool for initiative. Making my Cool roll now... 4 successes, 1 advantage. I will also spend a strain to add one success with my Rapid Reaction talent, so I have 5 successes, 1 advantage on initiative .

Current Wounds: 0

Current Strain: 1

I should probably also link to the characters:

Hasal Nisseen, Gran Makashi Duelist/Protector

Gavin Tylrosa, Mandalorian Armorer/Shii-Cho Knight

Species: Human (Mandalorian)

Career: Guardian; Specializations: Armorer, Shii-Cho Knight

Attributes: Wound Threshold 19; Strain Threshold 16; Defense: Ranged 1, Melee 2; Soak 7.

Characteristics: Brawn 4, Agility 2, Intellect 2, Cunning 2, Willpower 3, Presence 2

Skills: Discipline 3, Lightsaber 4, Resilience 2, Vigilance 1

Talents: Armor Master, Improved Armor Master, Defensive Training 1, Durable 1, Gearhead 1, Grit 3, Imbue Item, Parry 3, Improved Parry, Quick Draw, Second Wind 2, Tinkerer 1 (Cresh armor), Toughened 2

Equipment: Basic lightsaber w/ magnetic weapon tether (Damage 6, Crit 2, Qualities: Breach 1, Sunder, Defensive 1, magnetic weapon tether: wielder may recover engaged lightsaber as an incidental); Cresh "Luck" armor w/ cortosis weave (Soak 2, Cortosis, automatically adds 1 Advantage to Vigilance checks); Stimpack (4); Savior anti-grav chute (take no wounds or strain falls); climbing gear; scanner goggles.

Dueling in the meditation chamber of the Valley of the Jedi:

Gavin has been waiting here. His master saw a vision of a rogue Jedi coming here, to the lost Valley of the Jedi, and the Force had guided him to this place, this moment.

He stared across the vast hall toward his quarry, a feeling of satisfaction already creeping into his consciousness. "It was foreseen that I would find you here, Jedi, " Gavin spat. "Come for the reckoning?"

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Wounds & Strain at 0

We'll say they are at almost opposite ends of the hall, maybe Medium range? Within speaking distance.

Hasal eyes the armored warrior warily with his three dark eyes. "I sense darkness within you, stranger. I don't wish to fight you." He draws his curved-handled lightsaber and ignites its green blade. "But know that I am not defenseless."

He steadies his blade, preparing his counterattack in case Gavin should rush at him.

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Medium range: agreed.

Looks like the initiative is mine. Hasal uses a maneuver to draw and activate his lightsaber. Then he converts his action into a maneuver and uses that to aim.

Strain 1, Wounds 0

Gavin rushes at the Jedi, intending to put him off balance. The Gran was quicker than he thought, deftly avoiding his charge, but Gavin felt for sure that his quick action had given him the advantage over his opponent.

"I will not fall for a Jedi's lies," Gavin growled as they crossed sabers. "You will be the one who falls."

Closing from Medium range to engaged, 2 maneuvers & 2 strain. Attacking with Lightsaber for my action.

I'll use the 2 Advantage to heal the strain suffered, and the Triumph to upgrade the Difficulty of your next check, @DaverWattra .

Edit: forgot to mention, 1 incidental to draw the lightsaber, courtesy of Quick Draw.

Hasal notices the trademark motions of Form I in the Jensaarai marauder's furious assault. "You've studied an even older style than I. But it seems you have yet to master it." He hopes to drive Gavin into a rage with the taunt--and maintain at least the facade of a Makashi master's calm as he fights for his life.

It seems to work for the moment. He lets the Force guide him, attacking in a pattern that he hopes will tire his opponent. He smiles inwardly as he lines up a perfect downward slash.

I use my action to attack, waiting to decide on my maneuver until the attack is resolved...

I hit for 9 damage, 2 of which will get past soak if Gavin doesn't Parry. Hasal takes 1 strain to use Ebb, spending the Light Side pip to inflict 1 strain on Gavin . I believe the turn order now is that you decide whether to use Parry, @awayputurwpn , and then I choose how to spend my 4 advantage.

(I rolled with 1 red for the upgrade, 1 purple, 2 black for your defense, 1 blue for my Duelist's Training plus 1 blue for my Aim. It's probably worth double-checking me since there's a whole fistful of dice there and I'm a spacey guy.)

Strain 2, Wounds 0

EDIT: I forgot to add the extra 1 advantage for my curved-handled lightsaber, for 4 total advantage. Corrected above.

OOC: A lucky opening turn for the good guy--first I get initiative, then my enemy rolls an unlikely miss! Let's hope it continues, since I'll need a little luck to defeat such a powerful character.

Um shouldn't it be 7 damage that gets past soak. Since light sabers have breach 1.

2 minutes ago, SMKeyes said:

Um shouldn't it be 7 damage that gets past soak. Since light sabers have breach 1.

Not against cortosis armor.

Yes and the armor gives 2 soak. So when wearing armor with cortosis quality you get your full soak? I thought the two soak from the armor would not be affected by the breach quality.

Cortosis "makes the wearer's soak immune to the Pierce and Breach qualities." FaD 163

16 minutes ago, SMKeyes said:

Yes and the armor gives 2 soak. So when wearing armor with cortosis quality you get your full soak? I thought the two soak from the armor would not be affected by the breach quality.

Yes it is your entire soak that gains cortosis. Talisman of the Iron Fist ftw. (if I ever get one)

8 hours ago, DaverWattra said:

Hasal notices the trademark motions of Form I in the Jensaarai marauder's furious assault. "You've studied an even older style than I. But it seems you have yet to master it." He hopes to drive Gavin into a rage with the taunt--and maintain at least the facade of a Makashi master's calm as he fights for his life.

It seems to work for the moment. He lets the Force guide him, attacking in a pattern that he hopes will tire his opponent. He smiles inwardly as he lines up a perfect downward slash.

I use my action to attack, waiting to decide on my maneuver until the attack is resolved...

I hit for 9 damage, 2 of which will get past soak if Gavin doesn't Parry. Hasal takes 1 strain to use Ebb, spending the Light Side pip to inflict 1 strain on Gavin . I believe the turn order now is that you decide whether to use Parry, @awayputurwpn , and then I choose how to spend my 4 advantage.

(I rolled with 1 red for the upgrade, 1 purple, 2 black for your defense, 1 blue for my Duelist's Training plus 1 blue for my Aim. It's probably worth double-checking me since there's a whole fistful of dice there and I'm a spacey guy.)

Strain 2, Wounds 0

EDIT: I forgot to add the extra 1 advantage for my curved-handled lightsaber, for 4 total advantage. Corrected above.

I'll be Parrying that action, my good sir And yes I believe your dice pool is correct! That puts me at 3 strain total.

5 hours ago, syrath said:

Yes it is your entire soak that gains cortosis. Talisman of the Iron Fist ftw. (if I ever get one)

I could have purchased one for way less than the Cortosis attachment, but it felt wrong with a Jensaarai.

EDIT: This post contained a rules mistake because I was unaware of a more recent ruling on the Sunder ability. I'll keep the old post here for archival purposes; revised post is here.

Hasal clashes sabers with his opponent.  Gavin's defenses are strong, but Hasal sees an opening.  But as he strikes what should be a crippling blow, his saber glances off the Jensaarai armor.  Sparks fly in a pattern that Hasal recognizes.  Cortosis!  His armor is proof against lightsabers.

The Gran Jedi shifts tactics, and with four precise strikes he lashes out with his blade, clipping the armor's bindings and exposing his enemy's chest and shoulder to his next attack.  Then he falls back on guard and prepares to defend himself.

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I spend my 4 advantage to activate Sunder four times, destroying the armor.  Then I use my maneuver to take a guarded stance leaving me with a total Melee Defense of 2 until my next turn.

(Not sure how I feel about the dev ruling that cortosis armor can be sundered, but if the alternative is facing down soak 7, I'm not too proud to use it...)

50 minutes ago, awayputurwpn said:

I'll be Parrying that action, my good sir And yes I believe your dice pool is correct! That puts me at 3 strain total.

I think you're at 4 strain, including the 1 I just inflicted with Ebb.

51 minutes ago, awayputurwpn said:

I could have purchased one for way less than the Cortosis attachment, but it felt wrong with a Jensaarai.

Really?? That's kind of an odd way for them to set up the costs... especially since I'm not sure the Talisman would be vulnerable to the Sunder trick I just pulled.

51 minutes ago, DaverWattra said:

Really?? That's kind of an odd way for them to set up the costs... especially since I'm not sure the Talisman would be vulnerable to the Sunder trick I just pulled.

You could only Sunder the amulet if it was obviously displayed, such as hanging openly from a chain around the neck, used as a cloak clasp, or used as a belt buckle. If it was worn concealed under clothing or fashioned to be held internally such as being used as a boxer's mouthguard (or keistered!), then it would not be a valid target for Sunder.

1 hour ago, DaverWattra said:

I spend my 4 advantage to activate Sunder four times, destroying the armor. Then I use my maneuver to take a guarded stance leaving me with a total Melee Defense of 2 until my next turn.

(Not sure how I feel about the dev ruling that cortosis armor can be sundered, but if the alternative is facing down soak 7, I'm not too proud to use it...)

OK, I don't want to stick my nose into this one if it is not welcome, so feel free to ask me to sit in the peanut gallery for this fight if I need to but...

The orginal Dev ruling was 'correct' in that the Cortosis quality on armor is not immune to sunder, but it was further clarified that it is because armor is not a legal target for the Sunder quality.

1 hour ago, Magnus Arcanus said:

OK, I don't want to stick my nose into this one if it is not welcome, so feel free to ask me to sit in the peanut gallery for this fight if I need to but...

The orginal Dev ruling was 'correct' in that the Cortosis quality on armor is not immune to sunder, but it was further clarified that it is because armor is not a legal target for the Sunder quality.

On the contrary, thanks for stepping in! As I said, I found the original ruling implausible myself. Do you have a link to the new one?

Edit: I found it (below). Thanks, @Magnus Arcanus , I wasn't aware of the new ruling. I'll redo the last section of my turn!

REVISED POST ( @awayputurwpn , ignore my previous post)

Hasal clashes sabers with his opponent. Gavin's defenses are strong, but Hasal sees an opening. But as he strikes what should be a crippling blow, his saber glances off the Jensaarai armor. Sparks fly in a pattern that Hasal recognizes. Cortosis! His armor is proof against lightsabers.

The Gran Jedi shifts tactics, bashing the dark warrior's helmet with the studded pommel of his lightsaber. The solid ringing noise of the impact gives him some hope that Gavin will be slowed down a step by the blow. Realizing that this won't be an easy fight, Hasal adopts a defensive stance...

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I spend 2 advantage to activate the Stun 2 quality of my saber's pommel cap, bringing Gavin to 6 strain (unless I'm doing the math wrong). With the remaining 2 advantage, I add 1 setback die to Gavin's next check . Then I use the guarded stance maneuver to increase my Melee Defense to 2 .

4 hours ago, DaverWattra said:

Really?? That's kind of an odd way for them to set up the costs...

Yeah it is kinda odd. 2000 less for the Talisman, and it doesn't eat up two hard points! But meh. That way it cost my Morality bonus for 2,500 credits instead of going fully dark side like I wanted to, so instead of creating him as a sith adherent, I made him a Jensaarai instead. Not necessarily a "dark sider," but definitely not a friend of the Jedi! At least not yet

1 hour ago, DaverWattra said:

On the contrary, thanks for stepping in! As I said, I found the original ruling implausible myself. Do you have a link to the new one?

Edit: I found it (below). Thanks, @Magnus Arcanus , I wasn't aware of the new ruling. I'll redo the last section of my turn!

Phew, thanks

So I'll be doing 8 damage, Breach 1. Parry? The Threat is yours.

Also should we move this somewhere more interesting? I can narrate us into the crystal chamber if you like with my action!