1 hour ago, Rosco74 said:At least they won a great amount of money with the insurance... even more than selling what the containers contained
I sense a new business model.
What is going on the Boat carrying Ghosts of Dathomir?
Well insurance came literally out of betting against your ship returning.
Hey, that Amazon page has a little tidbit:
QuoteFeatures a new force power that enables pcs to affect others' emotions
8 hours ago, Blackbird888 said:Hey, that Amazon page has a little tidbit: Features a new force power that enables pcs to affect others' emotions
Isn't that part and parcel of the Influence power though? The Row 2 control upgrade allows the user to impose an emotional state upon the target(s), albeit one reliant upon what color pip you used when rolling your Force dice to generate your Force points.
Wouldn't be the first time a new power overlaps an existing power.
It could be a more potent form of mind control, perhaps.
seriously... this story with the "container overbaord" sounds like "my homework got eaten by my dog"
from what i read, and how ofter strange accidents happen (with US and German products), i say they never printed it because they are so overwhelmed by their work, and then they said "ohhhhh we send it to you, didn't it arrive? oh no must have fallen of the ship. what a pitty, so niiiice books"
and i base that on absolutle nothing!
7 hours ago, Seguleh said:seriously... this story with the "container overbaord" sounds like "my homework got eaten by my dog"
from what i read, and how ofter strange accidents happen (with US and German products), i say they never printed it because they are so overwhelmed by their work, and then they said "ohhhhh we send it to you, didn't it arrive? oh no must have fallen of the ship. what a pitty, so niiiice books"
and i base that on absolutle nothing!
...the ****?
We've been over this already. All evidence seems to indicate that the bankruptcy of Hanjin Shipping forced FFG to reprint a new batch.
22 hours ago, Donovan Morningfire said:Isn't that part and parcel of the Influence power though? The Row 2 control upgrade allows the user to impose an emotional state upon the target(s), albeit one reliant upon what color pip you used when rolling your Force dice to generate your Force points.
It's not like FFG hasn't taken something published and the sliced it finer before. The Scoundrel from EotE was part charmer, part gambler, and part gunslinger. Then Fly Casual came along and each of those was now their own thing, making Scoundrel something of a jack of all trades. Maybe this is a very specific variant of influence.
On 9/20/2017 at 6:21 PM, Seguleh said:seriously... this story with the "container overbaord" sounds like "my homework got eaten by my dog"
from what i read, and how ofter strange accidents happen (with US and German products), i say they never printed it because they are so overwhelmed by their work, and then they said "ohhhhh we send it to you, didn't it arrive? oh no must have fallen of the ship. what a pitty, so niiiice books"
and i base that on absolutle nothing!
On 23.9.2017 at 2:10 AM, Daeglan said:
yeah that source sounds a little dramatic and not based on anything, except that the follow article seems more interesting when it "happens all the time"
i found this link http://worldmaritimenews.com/archives/160925/why-containers-get-lost-at-sea/ and they explain it a little bit more detailed and speak of numbers of 1600 per year, including catastophies like sinking ships. The (german) Wikipedia article says "between 2.000 and 10.000" and gives as reference an insurance supplier.
And still with the 10.000 it is not a "happens all the time" thing, compared to 400.000.000 container transport in 2005, that means every 40.000th container is lost! and with actual numbers this number would be even larger. I don't try to find out if there is a study about how often dogs realy eat homework, but i guess it could be as plausible as an excuse like "the container dropped in the ocean"
Edited by SegulehWell given that there really is no reason for FFG to make up a reason for not having Items they want to sell. Finding out that they lost a container when containers are lost fairly often does not sound like a made up excuse.
It is a lot more plausible than the idea Disney made them throw out an entire print run for reasons..
Edited by Daeglan1. i never proposed that theory
2. CONTAINERS ARE NOT LOST FAIRLY OFTEN! 1:40.000 !!
8 minutes ago, Seguleh said:1. i never proposed that theory
2. CONTAINERS ARE NOT LOST FAIRLY OFTEN! 1:40.000 !!
Given the number of containers coming to the US that is fairly often.
There are more than
17 million shipping containers
in the world, which make over 200 million trips per year. A sweater can now travel 3,000 miles for 2.5 cents by sea. There are more than 6,000 container vessels currently in service. The largest shipping in the world, MSC Oscar, has a TEU of 19224: source.
Mar 25, 2015
ehm, what? are you not used to statistics or...? the number i gave u in the top is calculated exactly out from those numbers, and the rest of it... why do you post this? in the end its a 1:40.000 chance that your container gets lost, probably more likely to 1:100.000 if you don't take the bad extreme numbers I used.
Anyway, my point is that I think it is more likely that the Printing Company in China never send that stuff because from what i see, they messed up a lot of things and are absolutley overwhelmed by the work that is thrown at them, and it would fit in the philosophy of a lot of sout-east nations to say "well we send it, oh it didnt arrive" then "ah we are to slow, it is to much, we cant handle it". Ofc I have no prove for that and will never have, it is just an "educated guess"
25 minutes ago, Seguleh said:2. CONTAINERS ARE NOT LOST FAIRLY OFTEN! 1:40.000 !!
Losses are Increasing
Based on the 2011 survey results, the World Shipping Council estimated that on average there were approximately 350 containers lost at sea each year during the 2008-2010 time frame, not counting for catastrophic events. When counting the catastrophic losses, an average annual total loss per year of approximately 675 containers was estimated for this three year period.
Based on 2014’s survey results, the WSV estimates that there were approximately 733 containers lost at sea on average for the years 2011, 2012 and 2013, not including catastrophic events. Including catastrophic losses, for these years the average annual loss was approximately 2,683 containers, an uptick of 297% from the previous three years.
http://gcaptain.com/how-many-shipping-containers-lost-at-sea/
16 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:
Losses are Increasing
Based on the 2011 survey results, the World Shipping Council estimated that on average there were approximately 350 containers lost at sea each year during the 2008-2010 time frame, not counting for catastrophic events. When counting the catastrophic losses, an average annual total loss per year of approximately 675 containers was estimated for this three year period.
Based on 2014’s survey results, the WSV estimates that there were approximately 733 containers lost at sea on average for the years 2011, 2012 and 2013, not including catastrophic events. Including catastrophic losses, for these years the average annual loss was approximately 2,683 containers, an uptick of 297% from the previous three years.
http://gcaptain.com/how-many-shipping-containers-lost-at-sea/
ehm, yeah, that proofs my point.
16 minutes ago, Seguleh said:ehm, yeah, that proofs my point.
Nope. It proves it is not unusual..
20 minutes ago, Seguleh said:ehm, yeah, that proofs my point.
So something that happens a couple times a day can't possibly have happened, right...
Magical thinking at its best.
Ok dude, when you consider statistics and math as magic, go to school.
If you think that because "something happens every day" it is likely to happen, ok. Seriously, consider the HUGE amount of containers that are shipped successfully. And please read up what a CHANCE is. And read this to start with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability_theory
I know there's no CHANCE you're worth talking to like an adult.
47 minutes ago, Seguleh said:Ok dude, when you consider statistics and math as magic, go to school.
If you think that because "something happens every day" it is likely to happen, ok. Seriously, consider the HUGE amount of containers that are shipped successfully. And please read up what a CHANCE is. And read this to start with: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability_theory
Is it likely? No. Does it happen often enough to be not be unusual? Yes.
You act like because something is unlikely it can't happen.
1 minute ago, Daeglan said:Is it likely? No. Does it happen often enough to be not be unusual? Yes.
You act like because something is unlikely it can't happen.
Also, that little accusation of fraud based on... nothing at all.
9 minutes ago, Daeglan said:Is it likely? No. Does it happen often enough to be not be unusual? Yes.
You act like because something is unlikely it can't happen.
No I don't, I just point out how unlikely it is. I did this because a lot of people in this threat said it happens a lot. I pointed out that this is still a very rare event, not "per day" because this point of view isn't realy helpfull, and you have to see the chance that this happens to your container, so you have to see how many containers are shipped successfull vs the once lost, and then it is super rare, like homework eaten by a dog.
I even calculated it, I used 10.000 lost containers per year, then stan posted a quote which said "
2,683 containers
", which would have even lowered the chance that i calculated because it is less then the 10.000 I used, about 4 times, when i pointed that out, it was "magical thinking at its best".
And ofc my theory is just a theory, but to doubt that "container lost"-thing is absolutley legit.
And I just got pissed off because you two guys didn't read my post completely or didn't try to understand them and just posted oneliners or links I already knew, sorry for that though.
Dismissing a legitimate possibility because you don't like it, with no evidence that it didn't actually happen, some that it did, and no evidence for your alternate "theory" (baseless accusations of fraud, really) IS magical thinking. "I don't like it, therefore it can't have happened". That's your argument.