Response I got from Customer Service:

Thank you for contacting us with your inquiry. Unfortunately there may have been some delays and we will update our Upcoming page as soon as we receive the product. If you have any further questions or concerns please feel free to contact us again!

Here's the reply I got today from Customer Service

" Thanks for reaching out! Ghosts of Dathomir will be released but is still "On the Boat." Keep your eyes on the Upcoming page for any updates!"

>_>

Wow, I got this today:

" Thank you for contacting us. The boat that had the Force and Destiny: Ghosts of Dathomir had unfortunately been redirected. Another print run is on its way and we hope to be seeing them in stores again shortly."

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Well, that at least tells us what happened, and (mostly) confirms my theory. We were waiting on an additional print run, just not because of issues with the printer, but issues with the boat itself.

Now I'm curious - how does a boat get "redirected" for the weeks or months that would make reprinting the book the solution? That's kind of a long time for a mere "redirection". Makes me think other words might be more appropriate, like "seized" or "sank".

5 minutes ago, coyote6 said:

Now I'm curious - how does a boat get "redirected" for the weeks or months that would make reprinting the book the solution? That's kind of a long time for a mere "redirection". Makes me think other words might be more appropriate, like "seized" or "sank".

That's probably exactly what it means. That is was seized by pirates.

Aliens I'm still going with Aliens they are attempting to crossbreed roleplaying books with cows to create meals that can gm...

It could be something as simple as a customs dispute or a large backlog. However, it's far more likely the ship was in fact redirected, just to the bottom of the sea. I guess theft is a real concern too? A little research is enlightening, and great story fodder to boot.

2 hours ago, themensch said:

It could be something as simple as a customs dispute or a large backlog. However, it's far more likely the ship was in fact redirected, just to the bottom of the sea. I guess theft is a real concern too? A little research is enlightening, and great story fodder to boot.

Piracy is a big issue in shipping these days. So likely redirected by pirates

12 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

Piracy is a big issue in shipping these days. So likely redirected by pirates

Remember back when piracy was the stated reason why .pdf gaming books were such a risk...?

3 minutes ago, HappyDaze said:

Remember back when piracy was the stated reason why .pdf gaming books were such a risk...?

Then they figured out those who pirate PDFs are not there customers. And most people are reasonably honest if you let them be.

Also currently quite a lot of shipping companies being driven out of business, and they can't unload cargo til their finances get sorted out.

I'm gonna have to write a "ghost ship of dathomir" adventure to pass the time until this arrives. But should I go for creepy horror of comedy mystery (with a Shistavanen wolfman called Scooby).

1 hour ago, mulletcheese said:

I'm gonna have to write a "ghost ship of dathomir" adventure to pass the time until this arrives. But should I go for creepy horror of comedy mystery (with a Shistavanen wolfman called Scooby).

Why not both?

Piracy is an issue in a very select number of locations. However, none of them are between China (where I'm pretty sure they print) and Long Beach, CA where they are imported. Horn of Africa and Straights of Malacca are where you see the bulk of piracy these days.

I'm guessing that either the ship itself was lost at sea (have there been any reports of shipping vessels lost in the last year?), the shipping container was lost or damaged (or the container was damaged or stolen in port and found out about later).

There is the possibility that the something else happened, like the ship was being used to smuggle, and the entire cargo was impounded indefinitely or something.

7 hours ago, Daeglan said:

Piracy is a big issue in shipping these days. So likely redirected by pirates

Myes, quite.

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I replied hoping no lives were lost, and they replied back that it was nothing so serious. So hopefully not any Ghost Pirates of of the Sargasso Sea or 10,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

1 hour ago, themensch said:

I replied hoping no lives were lost, and they replied back that it was nothing so serious. So hopefully not any Ghost Pirates of of the Sargasso Sea or 10,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

then that likely means the container fell off the ship. which happens occasionally. The locks that hold the containers together sometimes fail.

15 minutes ago, Daeglan said:

then that likely means the container fell off the ship. which happens occasionally. The locks that hold the containers together sometimes fail.

Indeed, that is one possibility. I had no idea you were so versed in nautical events!

11 hours ago, themensch said:

Indeed, that is one possibility. I had no idea you were so versed in nautical events!

I am versed in many things

I am Irish.

I drink

And

Know things.

The redirection might also explain why other books have been delayed, you can only edit and print so many things at one time.

On 28/07/2017 at 5:09 PM, Daeglan said:

then that likely means the container fell off the ship. which happens occasionally. The locks that hold the containers together sometimes fail.

As I quoted in another thread as they dont sink they pose a threat to other boats as they can take weeks to sink, and unlike the large icebergs which get tracked they can be hard to avoid (although they can cause damage , not enough to sink a shipping container vessel.

Redirected could also be a customs/coast guard enforced redirection where the boat was not permitted to dock in the USA. With the cargo now in another country organising transport could take a long time. A Bankrupt shiping company is a plausible option too.

Hopefully FFG get the stock eventually, saving them their next reprint. Insurance probably covered costs anyway.

On 7/28/2017 at 7:24 AM, kaosoe said:

Why not both?

Niiiice.

A VB style game would be so rad to play.