According to the recently-revealed pages on deckbuilding from the Paris event, a deck built out of a single core box only needs a 30-card dynasty deck. (It doesn't specify anything about conflict deck, which I would read as meaning that there's no minimum size and that the Influence rules are waived.)

- This means that one could build a deck by combining all the cards from three clans. Or, one could build a deck by combining all the cards from two clans plus lots of neutrals. Or, one could build a deck by combining all the cards from two clans plus individual powerful cards from the other five clans (their champions, for example.)

At GenCon (and possibly other release events) people will be playing using single box decks like this.

1. What will/would you do?

2. What do you believe the single-box meta will be?

FWIW, my initial thought was to go with Phoenix and Crane as a spine, and then add in lots of powerful cards from other clans, especially the 5-cost personalities.

My reason is this: Both the 5-cost personalities we've seen so far have been total beasts and have enabled ring-manipulation tricks. If this is what they're all like, then a deck which relies upon them as its primary muscle would be hard to beat but would need cards to protect against dishonour / bowing / discard. Crane can provide this. Meanwhile, Phoenix look like they would combo well with the ring-manipulation tricks. Dragon might too.

My guess at the meta is that most people will play mashups of two clans which complement one another. I imagine we'll see a lot of Lion/Crane and Crab/Unicorn.

The spoiled page says 30 cards min for dynasty deck, but I am sure it says 30 for conflict on the next page. This belief comes from the GenCon tournament rules where they allow one core set built decks and min deck sizes of 30 for both.

As far as clans in deck building, the spoiled page and many previous FFG articles and Facebook Lives have stated the following:

1. Dynasty deck will contain clan specific dynasty cards from ONE clan only and neutral dynasty cards

2. Conflict deck will contain neutral conflict cards, clan specific conflict cards from ONE clan, and clan specific conflict cards from ONE additional clan up to the influence value on the stronghold

3. The additional clan specific conflict cards mentioned above must have an influence purchase amount (bamboo(s)) to be included

4. The clan of the clan specific cards, not additional clan, must match the clan of the stronghold

5. Only 3 copies of a card may be included in a deck

15 minutes ago, Kitsu Seinosuke said:

According to the recently-revealed pages on deckbuilding from the Paris event, a deck built out of a single core box only needs a 30-card dynasty deck. (It doesn't specify anything about conflict deck, which I would read as meaning that there's no minimum size and that the Influence rules are waived.)

- This means that one could build a deck by combining all the cards from three clans. Or, one could build a deck by combining all the cards from two clans plus lots of neutrals. Or, one could build a deck by combining all the cards from two clans plus individual powerful cards from the other five clans (their champions, for example.)

I suspect you're reading more into that than is there. In general, only the rules that they specifically override are changed. So when I read that, I see that minimum dynasty is 30 for a single core deck, but all other deckbuilding rules remain in place.

I'm almost positive there is more on the next page. I don't see how this will work without them allowing you to mash two clans together even though it's not normally allowed. There just isn't enough cards in the core set to form 30 card decks with a single clan. If that's true it means you'll have a very unique meta for the single core tournaments.

If all that's true it's still very hard to say what a good combination since we've only really seen two factions mostly spoiled.

5 minutes ago, phillos said:

I'm almost positive there is more on the next page. I don't see how this will work without them allowing you to mash two clans together even though it's not normally allowed. There just isn't enough cards in the core set to form 30 card decks with a single clan. If that's true it means you'll have a very unique meta for the single core tournaments.

That seems likely. If FFG is listening, that might be a good thing to release before GenCon, so people who are going can start making plans...

3 minutes ago, phillos said:

I'm almost positive there is more on the next page. I don't see how this will work without them allowing you to mash two clans together even though it's not normally allowed. There just isn't enough cards in the core set to form 30 card decks with a single clan. If that's true it means you'll have a very unique meta for the single core tournaments.

If all that's true it's still very hard to say what a good combination since we've only really seen two factions mostly spoiled.

I believe there will be enough in the core to get 30 cards per deck. Dynasty for example there are 14 dynasty cards per clan. That means 98 dynasty cards across all the clans. There is 117 dynasty cards in the core. That means 19 neutral dynasty cards that is a combined 33 dynasty cards cards available for the dynasty deck using one clan and neutrals. for conflict 10 per clan, totaling in 70 across clans. 98 conflicts in total, means 28 neutral conflicts. So 38 conflict deck options for one clan and neutrals without splashing an additional clan.

This means one core is enough to produce a 30 card conflict and dynasty deck without breaking and of the other rules.

I and many of my friends are going to GenCon, and I'm absolutely fine with FFG sticking to their own schedule for releasing information rather than being rushed or pressured into anything else.

33 minutes ago, HidaYama said:

I believe there will be enough in the core to get 30 cards per deck. Dynasty for example there are 14 dynasty cards per clan. That means 98 dynasty cards across all the clans. There is 117 dynasty cards in the core. That means 19 neutral dynasty cards that is a combined 33 dynasty cards cards available for the dynasty deck using one clan and neutrals. for conflict 10 per clan, totaling in 70 across clans. 98 conflicts in total, means 28 neutral conflicts. So 38 conflict deck options for one clan and neutrals without splashing an additional clan.

This means one core is enough to produce a 30 card conflict and dynasty deck without breaking and of the other rules.

I guess it's possible, but I'm not sure I like that because normally they double up on neutrals such that you can form two decks with a single core so you can play the game with a friend to try it out without a second purchase. Correct me if I'm wrong, but your count assumes the entire budget of neutrals will be allocated to one deck.

8 minutes ago, Hinomura said:

I and many of my friends are going to GenCon, and I'm absolutely fine with FFG sticking to their own schedule for releasing information rather than being rushed or pressured into anything else.

I echo your opinion. As anxious I am to find out and play the game, and I am VERY anxious. I want FFG to do things right and part of that is to keep to their plan and schedule.

2 minutes ago, phillos said:

I guess it's possible, but I'm not sure I like that because normally they double up on neutrals such that you can form two decks with a single core so you can play the game with a friend to try it out without a second purchase. Correct me if I'm wrong, but your count assumes the entire budget of neutrals will be allocated to one deck.

That would cause a problem with two players playing from the same core ofr dynasty, but no problem for conflict once you include splashing another clan into it using the influence rules.

2 hours ago, agarrett said:

That seems likely. If FFG is listening, that might be a good thing to release before GenCon, so people who are going can start making plans...

They have already said the rules will be available in August.

Early August, to be clear. I'd be very surprised if we didn't get at least two weeks with access to them before the convention.

Just now, Hinomura said:

Early August, to be clear. I'd be very surprised if we didn't get at least two weeks with access to them before the convention.

I agree. I think it will be the first week in august to give us those two weeks.

If FFG is good at anything it's a compelling marketing roll out for new games. I know it's frustrating because we don't know everything right now and we desperately want to learn more about the game, but that would deflate the balloon immediately. It's more fun getting these little trickles of information. It's kinda like a gaming information advent calendar.

I've been playing FFG games for a long time and this is their largest, craziest, most planned out roll out I have ever seen. Sit back and enjoy the ride.