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[Mafia] Nowhere Special - COMPLETE
Nothing more of this topic is discussed until Ovi makes his public reveal. Mad and Vis respond. Mad states that he didn't notice Ovi's initial subtle reference. Ovi decided to wait on Oni and Ninja. Ninja arrives:
On 6/29/2017 at 2:56 PM, CaribbeanNinja said:On 6/29/2017 at 5:56 AM, CaribbeanNinja said:If I understand what you are saying, I don't see that anyone caught it. But I may be misunderstand your post. I personally need to investigate more because we aren't going to win this by lying down.
On 6/29/2017 at 2:56 PM, CaribbeanNinja said:I guess you didn't see this?
Ovi replies:
On 6/29/2017 at 3:05 PM, ovinomanc3r said:I saw it. I waited for the other two cause time-zone reasons. Then moodswing claimed and I think it was time be less discrete.
However I am not sure if:
- you noticed before that post.
- you noticed after that post.
- you never ever noticed until now.
Ninja returns:
On 6/29/2017 at 3:06 PM, CaribbeanNinja said:I noticed after, but I'm not sure how I can prove that.
Mad adds:
On 6/29/2017 at 3:07 PM, Madaghmire said:Also, what I take from that is CNinja caught the claim. But how to interpret?
Did he catch it and wait patiently for a cue from Ovi, knowing he was cop?
Did he catch it and block/have a teammate block Ovi? If so, why point out he caught it now? It both draws and alleviates suspicion.
I'm inclined to trust.
Ninja replies to Mad:
On 6/29/2017 at 3:09 PM, CaribbeanNinja said:This is exactly what I meant by not being able to prove it. I'm not sure why Ovi would put such a huge claim in on the first day. When I read it I totally thought is was a joke, until he mentioned a "claim" today.
The conversation turns to Vis's plan. This is where Vis reveals his role as Doc:
On 6/29/2017 at 3:44 PM, Visovics said:Everything I'm saying has a reason! Trust me mad!
On 6/29/2017 at 3:44 PM, Madaghmire said:I want to vis, but I've been hurt before...
On 6/29/2017 at 3:47 PM, Visovics said:Then I shall heal thee from such nasty things, the rebellion will be over! (if everything works obviously)
The conversation then shifts and Oni joins in. Ovi comes to the conclusion that Oni didn't pick up on his subtle claim either:
On 6/29/2017 at 4:20 PM, ovinomanc3r said:Another who didn't notice?
So, at this point all three of the suspects who Ovi called out have made statements regarding when they came to understand Ovi's subtle revelation of being Dop. Mad and Oni didn't notice. Ninja's answer is more complicated. He saw it after he replied to prior post by Ovi regarding his claim, and it's something he can't prove. Mad underscores this last point.
All this is followed by Vis outing himself as Doc. It's subtly was on par with Ovi's initial reveal. The scum were definitely paying attention as we all know what took place during Night 2. We loyalists need to find the scum before Night 3 arrives, as I believe Vis, the Doc, will be their next victim.
And what did the late Oni bring to this discussion that bears further examination?
On 6/29/2017 at 4:03 PM, Onidsen said:Can we trust Ovi? He hasn't brought forward any verifiable results. All we have is a role claim. Even then, I've played setups with scum cops before. That said, I'm all in favor of more scrutiny being brought towards Mad, CNinja, and I.
Oni was lynched later in Day 2. We can cross his name off his list.
I just know I was honest. There is no way I could prove that.
Im not sure why Ovin thought only me, Onid and Mad would realize this (hell I didn't know until he kept bringing it up). The scum could have just looked up the game before. That is what I did to give him some feedback with his actual flavor text from that game
The rebels almost certainly saw Ovins claim and blocked him. I know it wasn't me or Onidsen. I don't think that 100% implicates Mad though. Like I said, it was there for everyone to see.
The eventual lynching of Oni began not long after the discussion of Vis's plan. But, Ovi was still trying to put the pieces of his own puzzle together:
On 6/29/2017 at 6:42 PM, ovinomanc3r said:Do we really think that I was blocked by a lucky mafia scum?
I mean it is possible but my mind is saying "no way!".
I really thought that Madaghmire and Onidsen read my claim. And, actually to say they did would help me to clear them cause I think a scum wouldn't say that knowing I know I was blocked.
But with everyone saying no one read it I am stuck. Or they were lucky, too lucky or someone is lying.
Vis contributed this:
On 6/29/2017 at 6:44 PM, Visovics said:It's a mafia game, we know someone is lying!
Ovi replied:
On 6/29/2017 at 6:46 PM, ovinomanc3r said:Someone between those three.
Now it's down to two.
Loyal citizens of Nowhere Special, lets boil my admittedly long examination down to its core. Our loyal cop was absolutely convinced that the rebel scum picked up on his subtle claim after he made it and before he made his public reveal. We also know that he was looking at certain suspects during this period. Twice he vocalized his belief that either Mad or Oni was rebel scum. Regarding Ninja, he was neutral. All three were called out by him when he made his public reveal, and after a bit of discussion that one of them was lying about when they came to see his claim.
Oni is dead. We know now he was a loyal citizen. It's a choice now between Mad and Ninja. Consider this, but also consider what occurred last night and since this day began. Our loyal Doc was roleblocked and our Cop was murdered. And I'll state it again...I believe the rebels will attempt to kill our Doc during Night 3.
We must determine if either Mad or Ninja is lying. This could be the key to unmasking the rebels and putting an end to their disgusting rebellion.
26 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:
Im not sure why Ovin thought only me, Onid and Mad would realize this (hell I didn't know until he kept bringing it up). The scum could have just looked up the game before. That is what I did to give him some feedback with his actual flavor text from that game
The rebels almost certainly saw Ovins claim and blocked him. I know it wasn't me or Onidsen. I don't think that 100% implicates Mad though. Like I said, it was there for everyone to see.
My last post in this series is up.
Indeed, it was there for all to see. But, we can eliminate Truthi because he died first night and Vis because he's Doc.
I'm going to take a look again at our chats from earlier today. If you are being honest, there must be a way to prove it. I don't believe in the no win scenario. Same goes for Mad. This is process of elimination, straight and simple.
So you are 100% on me or Mad because of Ovin? Well I know it's not me.
remember that Ovin was wrong about Onid, and I think about revealing early.
I'm just asking that we be as sure as we can be and consider everything else:
Vis: Could easily claim doctor and have been fooling us, especially with his poorly laid out plan.
Mood: His back and forth is evident and I think every player has been suspicious of him at one time or another.
Norell: Early suspicion has given way to a clean ride. He seems to have benefitted the most from Truthiness ' lynching.
Wig: Finally started contributing when a vote was on him. (I know you have had a rough week but I should point that out. )
Now, I'm not saying that Mad isn't a rebel, I just think we have to make sure that we act correctly. Your assumption that Ovinomanc3r was correct about us is a pretty big assumption.
So I really, really thought ninja was rebel.
But you know what? Moodswing has been sitting on l-2 for like, a ******* day. You know what that means? That means the mafia doesn't want him dead. Suddenly, the good admiral posts war and peace. When we no lynched we heard very little. When we lynched oni, very little except a promise to vote eventually, but I dropped hammer pretty close to time. Now we have what I think is a pretty obvious mafia lynch, because guess what guys? If it wasnt, we'd already have lost. (Unless I've been really, really wrong about visovics the whole game) And look at that, wiggy t says it has to be ninja or me. We are gonna what, ignore the man with his head in the noose?
At this point, I think town is me, vis, nor and cninja. Good game wiggy. You almost had it. Can we please noose moodswing and move on?
10 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:So you are 100% on me or Mad because of Ovin? Well I know it's not me.
remember that Ovin was wrong about Onid, and I think about revealing early.
I'm just asking that we be as sure as we can be and consider everything else:
Vis: Could easily claim doctor and have been fooling us, especially with his poorly laid out plan.
Mood: His back and forth is evident and I think every player has been suspicious of him at one time or another.
Norell: Early suspicion has given way to a clean ride. He seems to have benefitted the most from Truthiness ' lynching.
Wig: Finally started contributing when a vote was on him. (I know you have had a rough week but I should point that out. )
Now, I'm not saying that Mad isn't a rebel, I just think we have to make sure that we act correctly. Your assumption that Ovinomanc3r was correct about us is a pretty big assumption.
I agree with you 100%...we need to be as sure as we can be and consider everything else.
Regarding Vis; Did he willingly reveal that he was Doc or did it come about because Mad was probing for information? Vis never answered a question I asked him earlier in the game about his gut feeling that
Regarding Mood; He's still on my undecided list and I intend to bring to him the same level of examination that I've present here today.
Regarding Norell; Ronald Reagan said it best: Trust, but verify
Regarding Mad; I think it's logical to continue the line of thought given to us by Ovi the Cop to its very end. Was Ovi correct about everything? Nope. But, I'm willing to give his remaining suspicions a fair shake if only to find their validity.
Regarding you; You say it's not you. So give me more than a simple statement to convince me. Make me believe it.
Regarding me; I don't care about Mood's vote on me. If he wants to vote on me because of my repeatedly stated reasons for being absent that's his choice. If anyone else wants to join him for the same reason, so be it. You'll realize your mistake when Nippy pens my obituary. Oh, and btw...I won't go the route of a retaliatory vote against him because I disagree with his reasoning. I want my vote to reflect what I believe to be true and nothing else.
27 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:So I really, really thought ninja was rebel.
But you know what? Moodswing has been sitting on l-2 for like, a ******* day. You know what that means? That means the mafia doesn't want him dead. Suddenly, the good admiral posts war and peace. When we no lynched we heard very little. When we lynched oni, very little except a promise to vote eventually, but I dropped hammer pretty close to time. Now we have what I think is a pretty obvious mafia lynch, because guess what guys? If it wasnt, we'd already have lost. (Unless I've been really, really wrong about visovics the whole game) And look at that, wiggy t says it has to be ninja or me. We are gonna what, ignore the man with his head in the noose?
At this point, I think town is me, vis, nor and cninja. Good game wiggy. You almost had it. Can we please noose moodswing and move on?
Lynch me, I'm done. But before you do, here's one last rookie mistake just for you:
Your name is Stanley Anecdote, and you are a loyalist! Hearing of the horrible attack you volunteered to fight the rebels however you must, even if you die! You win if all threats to the establishment have been eliminated. (Mafia Alignment: Town. Mafia role: Vanilla Town)
The above is a revised rendition of your character. Updated to include the forgotten win condition.
Of course you can indirectly refer to them. Rather, you can refer to the initial PM, and while you may imply that further conversation took place, I'd prefer you not give a rundown of the conversation. Highlights, if possible.
51 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:Mood: His back and forth is evident and I think every player has been suspicious of him at one time or another.
Norell: Early suspicion has given way to a clean ride. He seems to have benefitted the most from Truthiness ' lynching.
In my defense of the back and forth, there is plenty of evidence of a few players changing their votes around. We all have thrown feces at the wall to see what sticks.
I don't know what to say about Norell I haven't already said. I stopped trying to vote for him because he's NEVER HERE to defend himself come vote time, and maybe I'm wrong for that. I will be sooo pissed if Norell is scum and he skated this whole time.
5 minutes ago, Admiral WigT said:Lynch me, I'm done. But before you do, here's one last rookie mistake just for you:
Your name is Stanley Anecdote, and you are a loyalist! Hearing of the horrible attack you volunteered to fight the rebels however you must, even if you die! You win if all threats to the establishment have been eliminated. (Mafia Alignment: Town. Mafia role: Vanilla Town)
The above is a revised rendition of your character. Updated to include the forgotten win condition.
Of course you can indirectly refer to them. Rather, you can refer to the initial PM, and while you may imply that further conversation took place, I'd prefer you not give a rundown of the conversation. Highlights, if possible.
I dont think you should have posted this, wig. You didn't need to....and it said not to.
1 hour ago, Admiral WigT said:Lynch me, I'm done. But before you do, here's one last rookie mistake just for you:
Your name is Stanley Anecdote, and you are a loyalist! Hearing of the horrible attack you volunteered to fight the rebels however you must, even if you die! You win if all threats to the establishment have been eliminated. (Mafia Alignment: Town. Mafia role: Vanilla Town)
The above is a revised rendition of your character. Updated to include the forgotten win condition.
Of course you can indirectly refer to them. Rather, you can refer to the initial PM, and while you may imply that further conversation took place, I'd prefer you not give a rundown of the conversation. Highlights, if possible.
Lol that's a claim if I've ever seen one. I'm positive you shouldn't have shared this though
As I see now, there are three people I trust almost completely at this point. Visovics, WigT and of course myself. Moodswing's claim left me confused, so I'm willing to give him more trust that I did a day before. That leaves Mad and CNinja as main suspects. The problem is one of them may NOT be scum. The problem is which one? CNinja's last few actions were rather.... unusual, askingto accept his honesty as proof of his innocence.
2 hours ago, Admiral WigT said:Lynch me, I'm done. But before you do, here's one last rookie mistake just for you:
Your name is Stanley Anecdote, and you are a loyalist! Hearing of the horrible attack you volunteered to fight the rebels however you must, even if you die! You win if all threats to the establishment have been eliminated. (Mafia Alignment: Town. Mafia role: Vanilla Town)
The above is a revised rendition of your character. Updated to include the forgotten win condition.
Of course you can indirectly refer to them. Rather, you can refer to the initial PM, and while you may imply that further conversation took place, I'd prefer you not give a rundown of the conversation. Highlights, if possible.
I am positive you shouldn't have posted that, but ok
Great in-depth analysis btw, still gotta finish reading the lot
3 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:Vis: Could easily claim doctor and have been fooling us, especially with his poorly laid out plan.
Doctor is just something you never claim as mafia, because it's a core role, so the chances of being one are extremely high. The thought behind saying everything about the plan was so that they target me for kill overnight, I protect myself, they block ovi, and so there was no night kill, but mad's constant freaking out about speaking out loud kind of invalidated it, and I end up "subtly" claiming and being blocked. It's still a stupid plan and poorly executed tho.
5 hours ago, Admiral WigT said:I keep losing quoted content when I change pages. This editor is really ####ing me off!
Anyone know why this is?
Just multi-quote all the posts by hitting the plus sign, then write up your post at the end.
3 hours ago, Admiral WigT said:Lynch me, I'm done. But before you do, here's one last rookie mistake just for you:
Your name is Stanley Anecdote, and you are a loyalist! Hearing of the horrible attack you volunteered to fight the rebels however you must, even if you die! You win if all threats to the establishment have been eliminated. (Mafia Alignment: Town. Mafia role: Vanilla Town)
The above is a revised rendition of your character. Updated to include the forgotten win condition.
Of course you can indirectly refer to them. Rather, you can refer to the initial PM, and while you may imply that further conversation took place, I'd prefer you not give a rundown of the conversation. Highlights, if possible.
Yeah, you really shouldn't have done that. It's not even a rookie mistake: I forbid it in the rules, and in our PMs, as you may recall.
Now, I hesitate to mod kill you, which is from what I understand the general rule-breaking punishment, most especially because that would effectively give the mafia the win right now.
So, I shall have to let this slide this time, but if anybody else does it, I shall mod kill them.
This game is gonna be the christmas special match, we all know it exists, but we choose to forget the disaster. We messed it up so much, sorry Gnips.
On a note, if the mod-kill means mafia win, then they should be 3, although if they were 3 they have already won, I'm lost
They would have*
1 minute ago, Visovics said:This game is gonna be the christmas special match, we all know it exists, but we choose to forget the disaster. We messed it up so much, sorry Gnips.
On a note, if the mod-kill means mafia win, then they should be 3, although if they were 3 they have already won, I'm lost
Well, it doesn't guarantee a mafia win, but it means they've effectively won. Don't forget the night kill.
And yeah, so far it seems you lot did make some rather impactful mistakes . . . but if you can kill a mafioso today, you'd be on the right track to redemption. If you are willing to redeem yourselves further, don't forget that Onidsen and I think Visovics have volunteered to run the next two games, and I'm perfectly willing to host the third, if nobody else wants to. I'll try making some quirks (such as the relevance of flavor) explicit from the start though.
Edited by GhostofNobodyInParticular2 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:And yeah, so far it seems you lot did make some rather impactful mistakes . . . but if you can kill a mafioso today, you'd be on the right track to redemption. If you are willing to redeem yourselves further, don't forget that Onidsen and I think Visovics have volunteered to run the next two games, and I'm perfectly willing to host the third, if nobody else wants to. I'll try making some quirks (such as the relevance of flavor) explicit from the start though.
NO EDITING!
jk, just practicing for when it's my turn
6 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:Well, it doesn't guarantee a mafia win, but it means they've effectively won. Don't forget the night kill.
Okay, that's what I thought, thx
Okay, we ain't got much time left now... 8 hours left and we need to kill a mafia, preferably the roleblocker if we get lucky.
I still have my suspicion on Mood, although if he turns out innocent I'd think Cninja and Norell are the mafia
3 minutes ago, Visovics said:Okay, we ain't got much time left now... 8 hours left and we need to kill a mafia, preferably the roleblocker if we get lucky.
I still have my suspicion on Mood, although if he turns out innocent I'd think Cninja and Norell are the mafia
7
7 hours remain, 4 to hammer
The living:
@moodswing5537
- (2) Visovics, Madaghmire
@Visovics
@Madaghmire
@CaribbeanNinja
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moodswing5537
@Admiral WigT
- (1) moodswing5537
@Norell
The dead:
Truthiness, Onidsen, ovinomanc3r
7 hours ago, Admiral WigT said:I keep losing quoted content when I change pages. This editor is really ####ing me off!
Anyone know why this is?
Either use the 'plus' button to build a stack of quotes before replying or olen two tabs and keep copying across the text to the one you dont change page on.