Wigt, I know you've had an off week, and your new to this game, but looking back on all three days, I see what ninja pointed out. Very little investigation and hardly anything that helps town. And combine that with not placing a single vote this whole game just looks suspicious. Because ninja has at least been making observations I can track down and verify, I can't vote for him over you.
##un vote @CaribbeanNinja
## vote @Admiral WigT
52 minutes ago, Admiral WigT said:I found the glitch! I do indeed win if all the threats to the establishment are eliminated. Oh, happy day!
I'm still just plain ole vanilla Stanley Anecdote, and the only people who think I'm scum is my ex-wife, Dorothy, and her mother, Sofia.
Cheesecake anyone?
7 minutes ago, moodswing5537 said:Wigt, I know you've had an off week, and your new to this game, but looking back on all three days, I see what ninja pointed out. Very little investigation and hardly anything that helps town. And combine that with not placing a single vote this whole game just looks suspicious. Because ninja has at least been making observations I can track down and verify, I can't vote for him over you.
##un vote @CaribbeanNinja
## vote @Admiral WigT
Yeah, there is not much in the role PM so that you miss vital information like that Wigt... although there are several pages in the thread to look for if someone had posted it, which someone did. I'm more and more growing suspicious that you are inclined to republic brainwash...
7 minutes ago, moodswing5537 said:Wigt, I know you've had an off week, and your new to this game, but looking back on all three days, I see what ninja pointed out. Very little investigation and hardly anything that helps town. And combine that with not placing a single vote this whole game just looks suspicious. Because ninja has at least been making observations I can track down and verify, I can't vote for him over you.
##un vote @CaribbeanNinja
## vote @Admiral WigT
You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that. I'll be the first to admit to my absenteeism, and I take ownership of it. But, if you lynch me you'll be adding another townie to the ranks of the deceased.
Regarding adding to the investigation, again I agree with you. But, I'm very engaged today now that I have the time and I intend to make up for my lack of input so far. It takes time to go through 19 pages of posts with a fine toothed comb, but let me assure you I'll be offering a contribution to the investigation witjin the next couple of hours. Please give me until then.
10 minutes ago, Visovics said:
Yeah, there is not much in the role PM so that you miss vital information like that Wigt... although there are several pages in the thread to look for if someone had posted it, which someone did. I'm more and more growing suspicious that you are inclined to republic brainwash...
I have it on good authority that something was missing from my original character description, and since I cannot directly qoute this information, you'll have to accept my paraphrasing of it.
24 minutes ago, Admiral WigT said:I have it on good authority that something was missing from my original character description, and since I cannot directly qoute this information, you'll have to accept my paraphrasing of it.
Reading into this makes me think the Wigster is legitimately town.
26 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:Reading into this makes me think the Wigster is legitimately town.
Thank you Ninj!
I realize that flavors mean nothing here, but I'd really like to know your character's name. And if you've already stated it, sorry...I'm busy putting my arguments together.
1 minute ago, Admiral WigT said:Thank you Ninj!
I realize that flavors mean nothing here, but I'd really like to know your character's name. And if you've already stated it, sorry...I'm busy putting my arguments together.
I am Silverback Sarah.
2 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:I am Silverback Sarah.
Thank you!
"An ancestor of mine maintained that when you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." -- Mr. Spock
I want to sketch a few things out:
Day 1
Ovi subtly drops that he is a cop during the joke? vote on him. There is no agreement on who to lynch before time runs out.
Night 1
Ovi is roleblocked and Truthi is murdered.
Day 2
Ovi reveals he is a cop. Five votes lynch Oni. Vis subtly drops that he is doc.
Night 2
Vis tries to protect Ovi but he's blocked. Ovi is murdered.
First question: Why not murder Ovi during Night 1 after his subtle reveal? Why pick Truthi?
Second question. What did Ovi do during Day 2 to become the target during that Night? Was it his revelation as cop? If so, then we can reasonable assume that the rebels didn't get the hint on Day 1. It was only after the public reveal that the rebels took him out. So this leads to the question of who was Ovi looking at during Day 2? Those suspects would warrant a closer look.
Now comes Night 2. Vis tries to protect Ovi and he's blocked. Vis confirms his town role with this action. It also means that if the rebels follow the precedent they established during Night 1, Vis will be the target tonight. Additionally, I don't think the rebels knew Vis was Doc until he revealed it. They missed Ovi's hint and only acted after it was revealed. I think they were paying closer attention to what was being said by everyone after that.
My list has been currently revised to this:
Definitely Townie: Me, Vis, Truthi, Oni, Ovi, Nor
Undecided: Mad, Ninja, Mood
I'm examining Ovi's posts to identify his suspects during Day 2.
Back in a bit.
Excellent post @Admiral WigT . We have definitely missed this level of insight these days.
Just now, CaribbeanNinja said:Excellent post @Admiral WigT . We have definitely missed this level of insight these days.
Thanks Ninj!
40 minutes ago, Admiral WigT said:First question: Why not murder Ovi during Night 1 after his subtle reveal? Why pick Truthi?
From my perspective this could be three things:
1. They missed Ovi's claim
2. They wanted to point to Norell
3. They wanted to point to me.
I will also say this...Ovi definitely thought that the rebels knew about his power from day 1. I guess he's right that it would be a pretty lucky guess to block him on night one.
On 6/29/2017 at 4:47 AM, ovinomanc3r said:What I am sure at 100%: I am townie. At least one mafia read through my claim.
It was not so inconspicuous to not be cached by others of course but at the end I got 2 "ok I got it". And the lack of at least one more is... disturbing.
Perhaps you can help me with this. I want to find the 2 who "got it" and the one who didn't.
2 minutes ago, Admiral WigT said:Perhaps you can help me with this. I want to find the 2 who "got it" and the one who didn't.
I know who the Lothal members are...I just want to find in the posts after Ovi dropped the hint where it was acknowledged.
I don't see any recognition of his crumb on day one at all. It took until that post you quoted for me to figure it out.
5 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:I don't see any recognition of his crumb on day one at all. It took until that post you quoted for me to figure it out.
Yes, this does appear to be a bit challenging to nail down.
If it makes you feel any better, I still couldn't find it
On 6/27/2017 at 0:09 AM, Norell said:I'm townie third time in a row. Statistics in your face
And putting ovi L-2 so quickly? First of all, thr mafia would be stupid to vote him from here being too obvious (we can be fairly certain there are 2 of them, like Sith). Therefor they will vote someone else. Just watch who gets the next vote...
And second, last time I caught Biggs with the strategy of making deliberately an outrageously stupid vote and teasing him into jumping at me as the obvious target.
On 6/27/2017 at 0:11 AM, Norell said:So let's see who was kind enough... Ah yeeesh...
#vote Truthiness
He is my prime suspect at the moment.
This was my favorite funny move so far. Says the next voter will be mafia, then votes 2 min. Later....Genius!
1 hour ago, Norell said:If it makes you feel any better, I still couldn't find it
Thanks for the help.
I have what I need. I'll be writing up my post after dinner.
I have been going through Ovi's comments starting at his initial reveal of being cop and ending with close of Day 2. I'm going to start this analysis at Day 2...the point which Ovi open declares his role as cop:
On 6/29/2017 at 2:28 PM, ovinomanc3r said:
@Madaghmire , @Onidsen and @CaribbeanNinja must be brought to the main line.
I was reticent to talk about it as soon as the day started. I wanted more info. But now it is the time cause we arrive to a cul-de-sac.
I am cop. It has not sense to keep it hide more time cause even if those I think already read my claim did not, the bad guys did and acted accordingly last night. I was blocked. I will die or, probably, will be blocked again.
My thoughts:
Everyone could read my claim. They just needed to check lothal mafia game. However, at least 3 (pointed above) had it easier cause they played it.
I have my idea about it but I want to hear all you:
Who read my claim? Who tried to tell me? What do you think about the suspects mentioned above?
Ovi refers to Mad, Oni, and Ninja as suspects. Is this the first time he does this? No, it isn't.
Ovi shared his assessment of everyone nearly a full day during his public reveal. Note what he has to say about Mad, Oni, and Ninja:
On 6/28/2017 at 4:35 PM, ovinomanc3r said:
So, it is clear that moodswing didn't try to gain our support selling a mafia mate cause, Truthiness was not mafia. Poor mafia play saving his mate Norell? Really rookie mistakes? Or just good play knowing that when Truthiness was cleaned Norell was going to be lynched?
Thinks I know: me and truthiness are townie.
Thinks I am quite sure: onidsen and madaghimire... here is at least one townie. Also I think onidsen and moodswing cannot be together in the mafia team. Both could be townie but I don't think both could be mafia.
Good feelings I have: visovics and admiral. Both seems townie to me.
Neutral feelings: CNinja. I would put him with visovics and admiral happily cause I really think Truthiness dead points to him too obviously. However maybe he thought he was a power role and had to kill him.
Bad feelings I have: Norell per the obvious reasons already mentioned. Truthiness dead worked the same way it did with CNinja. It would be really poor play or a convoluted move. Moodswing as I said before. If he is so rookie to play townie this way he is too to do the same as mafia. Onidsen and Madaghmire... I suspect that one of them is mafia scum.
Twice he says that he thinks either Oni or Mad is mafia scum. His opinion of Ninja is a bit more mixed. Mad responds immediately to Ovi's post, and Ovi responds:
On 6/28/2017 at 4:41 PM, Madaghmire said:Re; Oni and I- so like, neutral?
On 6/28/2017 at 4:54 PM, ovinomanc3r said:Definitely it could be as a sum
But not exactly. I have a feeling about one of you being townie and the other not. Maybe both are townie and I am overthinking.
The conversation ends there, but a few hours later Mad offers his own assessment of how he sees everyone. He never directly addresses Ovi suggesting that he might be rebel scum. A short time later Ovi posts:
On 6/29/2017 at 4:47 AM, ovinomanc3r said:What I am sure at 100%: I am townie. At least one mafia read through my claim.
It was not so inconspicuous to not be cached by others of course but at the end I got 2 "ok I got it". And the lack of at least one more is... disturbing.
"At least one mafia read through my claim." I believe this to be an indirect reference to him being roleblocked the night before. The next sentence is enigmatic and despite a thorough effort to identify 2 who "got it" within the conversations that took place after his subtle reveal, nothing was found. Ninja responds to Ovi's post a short time later:
On 6/29/2017 at 5:56 AM, CaribbeanNinja said:If I understand what you are saying, I don't see that anyone caught it. But I may be misunderstand your post. I personally need to investigate more because we aren't going to win this by lying down.
The conversations shift to other subjects from here.
3 minutes ago, Admiral WigT said:Ovi shared his assessment of everyone nearly a full day during his public reveal. Note what he has to say about Mad, Oni, and Ninja:
Twice he says that he thinks either Oni or Mad is mafia scum. His opinion of Ninja is a bit more mixed. Mad responds immediately to Ovi's post, and Ovi responds:
The conversation ends there, but a few hours later Mad offers his own assessment of how he sees everyone. He never directly addresses Ovi suggesting that he might be rebel scum. A short time later Ovi posts:
"At least one mafia read through my claim." I believe this to be an indirect reference to him being roleblocked the night before. The next sentence is enigmatic and despite a thorough effort to identify 2 who "got it" within the conversations that took place after his subtle reveal, nothing was found. Ninja responds to Ovi's post a short time later:
The conversations shift to other subjects from here.
Yep. Thats what happened. Would you like to draw a conclusion?
1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:Yep. Thats what happened. Would you like to draw a conclusion?
I'm working on it. I tried to write this up as a single post but my computer didn't want to do it that way.
Looking forward to it. I still like where my vote is. I'll check back in a bit.