So, it is clear that moodswing didn't try to gain our support selling a mafia mate cause, Truthiness was not mafia. Poor mafia play saving his mate Norell? Really rookie mistakes? Or just good play knowing that when Truthiness was cleaned Norell was going to be lynched?

Thinks I know: me and truthiness are townie.

Thinks I am quite sure: onidsen and madaghimire... here is at least one townie. Also I think onidsen and moodswing cannot be together in the mafia team. Both could be townie but I don't think both could be mafia.

Good feelings I have: visovics and admiral. Both seems townie to me.

Neutral feelings: CNinja. I would put him with visovics and admiral happily cause I really think Truthiness dead points to him too obviously. However maybe he thought he was a power role and had to kill him.

Bad feelings I have: Norell per the obvious reasons already mentioned. Truthiness dead worked the same way it did with CNinja. It would be really poor play or a convoluted move. Moodswing as I said before. If he is so rookie to play townie this way he is too to do the same as mafia. Onidsen and Madaghmire... I suspect that one of them is mafia scum.

2 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

So, it is clear that moodswing didn't try to gain our support selling a mafia mate cause, Truthiness was not mafia. Poor mafia play saving his mate Norell? Really rookie mistakes? Or just good play knowing that when Truthiness was cleaned Norell was going to be lynched?

Thinks I know: me and truthiness are townie.

Thinks I am quite sure: onidsen and madaghimire... here is at least one townie. Also I think onidsen and moodswing cannot be together in the mafia team. Both could be townie but I don't think both could be mafia.

Good feelings I have: visovics and admiral. Both seems townie to me.

Neutral feelings: CNinja. I would put him with visovics and admiral happily cause I really think Truthiness dead points to him too obviously. However maybe he thought he was a power role and had to kill him.

Bad feelings I have: Norell per the obvious reasons already mentioned. Truthiness dead worked the same way it did with CNinja. It would be really poor play or a convoluted move. Moodswing as I said before. If he is so rookie to play townie this way he is too to do the same as mafia. Onidsen and Madaghmire... I suspect that one of them is mafia scum.

Re; Oni and I- so like, neutral?

2 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Re; Oni and I- so like, neutral?

Definitely it could be as a sum

But not exactly. I have a feeling about one of you being townie and the other not. Maybe both are townie and I am overthinking.

Mad and Wig read town to me

mostly warm fuzzies other than:

CNinja - my guts have been consistently wrong, but they are strongly screaming your name (or I'm just hungry)

Norell- reasons listed before, although Truth's thought of it being Town V. Town may be right

Mood- unvoted in last crucial hours, deemed better a no-vote than a non-unanimous vote, of which both are not the best option for town, but may be rookie mistake.

2 hours ago, Visovics said:

Mad and Wig read town to me

mostly warm fuzzies other than:

CNinja - my guts have been consistently wrong, but they are strongly screaming your name (or I'm just hungry)

Norell- reasons listed before, although Truth's thought of it being Town V. Town may be right

Mood- unvoted in last crucial hours, deemed better a no-vote than a non-unanimous vote, of which both are not the best option for town, but may be rookie mistake.

You know, if Norell does turn out to be town, I'm a little worried about Onidsen and Visovics.

Anybody else see someone missing from the above list?

52 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Anybody else see someone missing from the above list?

You all have me right...just a townie noob trying to catch up after a rotten day at work.

Seems a bit quiet here right now. Everyone that was living this morning still got a pulse?

moodswing I'm suspicious of for reasons spoken above. Could be a rookie mistake. But rookie mistakes are a good way to try and cover being scum. Doesn't last long, but if it works for 1 game, it still works.

Visovics seems like someone who's trying to look helpful more than they are trying to be helpful.

I'm good.

Mad has mostly escaped my scrutiny, and that's a state of affairs that shouldn't be allowed to continue. Call it Neutral-ish, but only for lack of information.

ovi is even less on my radar than Mad, and for even worse reasons. Definitely needs a good inquisition.

CNinja has been awfully quiet recently - too quiet. Same sort of thing I'm seeing out of Vis. More attempts to seem useful than actually being so.

WigT's last post is giving my gut the evil vibe. Sorry about the rotten day at work.

Norell put ovi up to L-2 yesterday after only an hour of the game. On the one hand, that's awfully early to put someone that close to lynch. On the other, scum pulling a hammer would have been a suicidal proposition. Also claimed to have done it as an attempt to trap scum, and accused Truthiness on those grounds.

Those are my reads at the moment.

@Onidsen

Why am I giving you an evil vibe?

Checking in with where I'm at;

I gave my reads in round 1, and honestly so far I haven't seen much to move me from them. ATM I'm looking closely at Nor and Moodswing. I'd probably drop a vote on Mood but still plenty of daylight, and he already has two. I want to see some more discussion from those parties.

Ovi mentioned Truth's death pointing too obviously at Cninja. It also points at Norell, and also in the kind of obvious way that makes me think its a tarp. I mean trap. More so, IMO. Maybe a cover? Spit-balling here.

Oni reads town but I don't actually trust my ability to read him. So far though, he hasn't done anything to set off my radar. Except maybe the vote on truth, but he did swap that out, and I think both were more influenced by trying to get a hammer down before the buzzer. I know my vote on Norell was influenced by time/accessibility more than it was any actions or conviction about him having mafia ties. If I had been less confident in my read on truth, I probably would have followed Oni.

Vis continues to read town to me, as does WigT.

Ovi would read town, but I watched him do EXACTLY WHAT HE IS DOING NOW in the game I modded, and he walked it. Part of why that was so effective is the great job he did of projecting town, and also I guess that they couldn't track him. That's not me saying I think hes mafia. That's me saying that as with Oni, I don't love my read, but thats born less from their actions as my own lack of confidence.

1 hour ago, Admiral WigT said:

@Onidsen

Why am I giving you an evil vibe?

Mostly gut, but that last post of yours just sounds more like a mafia trying to sound good than a townie just normally commenting.

I'm still thinking about what Ginkapo said. What if there arw no power roles on the townie side and therefor nobody can claim other than being town? After re-reading everything I also started to have a feeling that there should be 3 mafia not 2. A very simple setup but no power roles on either side (why woild the mafia need one if there are only townies?) would mean the mafia need an extra man.

That being said I am willing to trust Vis and Wig at this point. They both used the word "loyalist", a word that wasn't in the description of the game but was in the character descriptions.

I may be able to trust Mad as well.

If all my reasonings are right (a big IF) three of the remaining four would be mafia. It would be hilarious if Ovin would be one of them again. He's also trying to defend CNinja which may suggest yet another mafia. But at the moment I'm much more suspicious about Moodswing than anyone else. zhe day is still young though.

And I'm sure Gink os cursing us in the Observatoins as everything is so obvious and we should have figured it out by now

7 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Anybody else see someone missing from the above list?

I stated names that I have almost certainty are town, and the ones I'm keeping an eye. I said "mostly warm fuzzies other than..." which applies to all names not mentioned (Oni and Ovi if I'm not wrong)

29 minutes ago, Norell said:

I'm still thinking about what Ginkapo said. What if there arw no power roles on the townie side and therefor nobody can claim other than being town? After re-reading everything I also started to have a feeling that there should be 3 mafia not 2. A very simple setup but no power roles on either side (why woild the mafia need one if there are only townies?) would mean the mafia need an extra man.

That being said I am willing to trust Vis and Wig at this point. They both used the word "loyalist", a word that wasn't in the description of the game but was in the character descriptions.

I may be able to trust Mad as well.

If all my reasonings are right (a big IF) three of the remaining four would be mafia. It would be hilarious if Ovin would be one of them again. He's also trying to defend CNinja which may suggest yet another mafia. But at the moment I'm much more suspicious about Moodswing than anyone else. zhe day is still young though.

I wouldn't disconsider this for the moment, after last game, I believe in almost any setup.

What I am sure at 100%: I am townie. At least one mafia read through my claim.

It was not so inconspicuous to not be cached by others of course but at the end I got 2 "ok I got it". And the lack of at least one more is... disturbing.

7 hours ago, Onidsen said:

moodswing I'm suspicious of for reasons spoken above. Could be a rookie mistake. But rookie mistakes are a good way to try and cover being scum. Doesn't last long, but if it works for 1 game, it still works.

Visovics seems like someone who's trying to look helpful more than they are trying to be helpful.

I'm good.

Mad has mostly escaped my scrutiny, and that's a state of affairs that shouldn't be allowed to continue. Call it Neutral-ish, but only for lack of information.

ovi is even less on my radar than Mad, and for even worse reasons. Definitely needs a good inquisition.

CNinja has been awfully quiet recently - too quiet. Same sort of thing I'm seeing out of Vis. More attempts to seem useful than actually being so.

WigT's last post is giving my gut the evil vibe. Sorry about the rotten day at work.

Norell put ovi up to L-2 yesterday after only an hour of the game. On the one hand, that's awfully early to put someone that close to lynch. On the other, scum pulling a hammer would have been a suicidal proposition. Also claimed to have done it as an attempt to trap scum, and accused Truthiness on those grounds.

Those are my reads at the moment.

It is funny that your reads are exactly what you accuse me and Visovics of... looking helpful...

1 hour ago, ovinomanc3r said:

What I am sure at 100%: I am townie. At least one mafia read through my claim.

It was not so inconspicuous to not be cached by others of course but at the end I got 2 "ok I got it". And the lack of at least one more is... disturbing.

If I understand what you are saying, I don't see that anyone caught it. But I may be misunderstand your post. I personally need to investigate more because we aren't going to win this by lying down.

3 hours ago, Norell said:

I'm still thinking about what Ginkapo said. What if there arw no power roles on the townie side and therefor nobody can claim other than being town? After re-reading everything I also started to have a feeling that there should be 3 mafia not 2. A very simple setup but no power roles on either side (why woild the mafia need one if there are only townies?) would mean the mafia need an extra man.

That being said I am willing to trust Vis and Wig at this point. They both used the word "loyalist", a word that wasn't in the description of the game but was in the character descriptions.

I may be able to trust Mad as well.

If all my reasonings are right (a big IF) three of the remaining four would be mafia. It would be hilarious if Ovin would be one of them again. He's also trying to defend CNinja which may suggest yet another mafia. But at the moment I'm much more suspicious about Moodswing than anyone else. zhe day is still young though.

So...

This is either straight town or straight mafia...I'm inclined to believe he's town, but I'm not sure why the reveal was necessary. It also contradicts, because there may be something in the flavor that allows the rebels to know all this **** already.

3 hours ago, Norell said:

And I'm sure Gink os cursing us in the Observatoins as everything is so obvious and we should have figured it out by now

Well **** Gink and all the **** **** he **** says cuz ****.

6 hours ago, Onidsen said:

Mostly gut, but that last post of yours just sounds more like a mafia trying to sound good than a townie just normally commenting.

I am townie...established that when the game started when I noobishly blabbed it everyone.

And, since another fellow townie was murdered last night, my reveal makes me a bit nervous about tonight.

6 hours ago, Norell said:

That being said I am willing to trust Vis and Wig at this point. They both used the word "loyalist", a word that wasn't in the description of the game but was in the character descriptions.

Interesting observation. It suggests to me that you and Vis are indeed town folk, given the possibility that the rebel scum did not have access to role information.

Note: since Truthi's deatu everyone has access to his character description.

6 minutes ago, Norell said:

Note: since Truthi's deatu everyone has access to his character description.

And townie he was. So that potentially makes four loyalists accounted for.

On 6/26/2017 at 1:37 PM, Admiral WigT said:

I, Stanley Anecdote, am a loyalist to my last breath, and I say to @ovinomanc3r, as Poet Laureate of Nowhere Special:

"Ba ba black sheep, are you Rebel scum?

Declare yourself a loyalist, or meet my laser gun!"

Loyalist has been outed since this post. Prior, therer are three people who alluded to or used this term, and one is dead.