6 minutes ago, Truthiness said:

Alright folks. I'll throw my claim out then. I'm vanilla town, so no big loss if I get killed in the night. If I'm hanged today, I would not immediately suspect Norell. I'm getting opposite vibe from Ninja. Feels more like bad town play than Scum ATM. He's still my best read, but Ninja and mood are setting off my radar as well.

For the full back story: I'm “Lackluster” Sam Sleepyhead, and I'm a loyalist. I quit my job as a lecturer to fight the terrorists however I must, even if I die!

I am not so sure about Norell as you. And I don't get the bad feelings about CNinja. However, mood... He went after Onidsen when Norell started to move into the fire line. He explained, of course but now when the time is pusing Norell to his sadly fate he chose you? Reason: Truthiness unvote what he started. Clever mafia play? Maybe. Deflection moves? Plausible.

D1 lynching sucks. But I am not going to be around to change so I will vote my last choice now.

Norell: put me h-2.

Truthiness: trapped by a clever "townie" Norell. Claimed with just two votes.

Mood: really pushed hard against Norell's lynching pointing to someone else.

Not too much about others.

Not quite sure about anyone. But I don't think it would be wise to unvote. Either Norell not Truthiness win anything lynching the other when the lynched flipped townie (the other would be a main target) or mafia (but the fact of a medal to the town). Mood, instead, could win something no matter if he moves us to a scum or townie. If townie, he saved a mate (not the wiser move however); if scum, he becomes trustworthy as the mafia hunter.

That's my reason to:

## vote moodswing5537

I had been more sure about my choice but we have not too much time left.

##novote

6 minutes ago, Truthiness said:

To get the conversation back on track. I'm vanilla, so who cares. You keep couching your criticisms of Norell with a "gut feeling" about me, which plays further into a binary setup between Norell and myself. You're effectively saying "It's definitely one of them!" What if it's not? So I'm going to put my cards on the table.

I am not the only one that suspected Norell, if you remember.

And now mood unvotes??

##unvote

Well this is a mess, but one that can get us some information, hopefully. Not wanting to let the day pass without a lynch, though. If I've read things right, we've got 2 votes on Norell, 2 on Truthiness, and 1 on moodswing.

Of the 3, moodswing is the most suspicious to me, but with only 1 vote, I'm not sure if we can swing a lynch. In that case, I'll go with my second option:

##vote Truthiness

Ugh.

None of this makes sense. Truth and Vis both dropped early clues that screamed town to me. I guess I could be wrong about them, but I'd prefer to avoid them.

WigT strikes me as confused townie playing first game. I feel pretty good about this read.

That leaves me with Nor, who I think has established a pattern of reacting poorly under pressure regardless of alignment, and so actually makes for a tough read.

I don't know what Mood is doing. Ovi makes some good points, but each action is equally plausible town. Something to look at day 2, given deadline and vote distribution.

I generally feel good about Cninja.

Oni is playing Oni's game. I wouldnt expect to catch him out this early if he were scum, as I expect day 1 plays exactly the same with him either way.

Ovi reads town to me. He has a way of pulling the wool over ones eyes, but still giving me the warm fuzzies.

With vote distribution being where it is atm, tho, I'm gonna have to

## vote norell

because he's the only one with a shot of being hung that I feel halfway decent about hanging.

Ugh. 3 and 3. (and 1) Both Truthiness and Norell at L-2. Rereading Truthiness' posts, I'm getting more and more of a townread. Bleh. I don't want to get into a habit of lynching Norell D1. It's no fun to be on the receiving end of that. But from a meta perspective, if we don't hang him today, we're going to try to do it tomorrow. The suspicious way he's been acting almost ensures that. And he is the best target. So here we go.

Sorry @Norell

##unvote

##vote Norell

With passions running high in the wake of the latest tragedy, the concerned citizens gather together in common cause to find the traitors. However, personal animosities get the better of each person, causing much back and forth discussion that brings many people at odds, creates new enemies, and ultimately leads nowhere. With night coming on, the citizens gather round to cast a desperate vote against the poor sucker whom everyone hated. But alas! They had forgotten about that beast upon which their government thrives: Bureaucracy! With the last second of the working day passing before enough votes could be cast, the members of the Town Council in charge of approving lynchings were unavailable! And thus night fell, with no dead bodies hanging around the tallest tree available, and the citizens' fears none the lesser.

It is now NIGHT. This shall last for 24 hours, or until all night actions are in. NO POSTING DURING THIS TIME! Thank you.

Just 1 hour into their sleep, the town's occupants are awaken by a frightful yell: 'So it's you!!!' Followed by several sharp cracks, the words 'Oww! Bummer !', a thud, a squelch, then silence.

Rushing to the source of the noise, the now sleepless population witnesses a horrific scene!

@Truthiness , loyal citizen “Lackluster” Sam Sleepyhead*, was ironically this night sleepless, and so wandered out to his front porch for a breath of fresh air. Alas! There he met his doom, for he is found spread-eagle before his door, a surprised expression on his face, several holes in his chest, and what looks suspiciously like a foot-print in his stomach.

The town publicly mourns him, his university students privately celebrate (his teaching methods sucked), and the hunt begins for the murderer. . .

*Mafia Role: Vanilla Town

It is now Day 2

guys... I ASKED FOR ONE THING BEFORE LEAVING!! ;-; now no more truthiness.

We need to hunt those terrorist bastards!

6 minutes ago, Visovics said:

guys... I ASKED FOR ONE THING BEFORE LEAVING!! ;-; now no more truthiness.

We need to hunt those terrorist bastards!

I know.

See the thing is, we tried.

What held us up tho, is we couldn't agree.

You have to understand, it was hard to figure.

Did Norell have a point? Was truth untrue? Or was it clever misdirection?

There was no way to know.

Obviously trying to incriminate me.

1 minute ago, Norell said:

Obviously trying to incriminate me.

Definetely an angle we need to keep in mind.

12 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

I know.

See the thing is, we tried.

What held us up tho, is we couldn't agree.

You have to understand, it was hard to figure.

Did Norell have a point? Was truth untrue? Or was it clever misdirection?

There was no way to know.

After having a calm read through, I see your point.

The votes on moodswing were very overlooked, maybe we should explore that

##vote Moodswing5537

Anything to say against those who voted (and those who thought of) in D1?

But now we know that Truthiness was townie.

There were votes. Not something 100% incriminating but, let's see:

Norell was suspicious. And the "rule" or you or he now points to Norell.

Truthiness pointed to CNinja. Another incrimination on going.

Moodswing deflected to Truthiness. Then unvoted saying we needed conversation when, obviously we had no time for that.

Onidsen's vote on Truthiness seemed odd. He said he shared my worries about moodswing but there was not going to be consensus so he... voted Truthiness?? The townie voted by moodswing?

I have to think about possible links between those actions.

I'm not surprised by this development. Good citizens, we must avenge this terrible death!

39 minutes ago, Norell said:

Obviously trying to incriminate me.

Obviously trying to incriminate you?

Obviously. That's an odd word to use. As if there could be no other explanation for the kill? As if it couldn't have been a kill to get a player who had been on the right track out of play?

29 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

But now we know that Truthiness was townie.

There were votes. Not something 100% incriminating but, let's see:

Norell was suspicious. And the "rule" or you or he now points to Norell.

Truthiness pointed to CNinja. Another incrimination on going.

Moodswing deflected to Truthiness. Then unvoted saying we needed conversation when, obviously we had no time for that.

Onidsen's vote on Truthiness seemed odd. He said he shared my worries about moodswing but there was not going to be consensus so he... voted Truthiness?? The townie voted by moodswing?

I have to think about possible links between those actions.

Yeah - it wasn't a good vote. I realized it shortly after, which is why I switched to Norell, even though I didn't want to pull a D1 Norell lynch yet again .

At this point, I'm more than willing to hang moodswing. In fact, I'll match actions to my words.

##vote moodswing

40 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Moodswing deflected to Truthiness. Then unvoted saying we needed conversation when, obviously we had no time for that.

I think gink's strong arming from Last game got me looking too hard at truthiness' investigation of Norell. It just looked like he was trying too hard. And I invited because I figured a no vote was safer d1 than a non-unanimous lynch. I mean, seriously, everyone was all over the board.

And a misread on Truthi doesn't auto make me a rebel.

*unvoted

21 minutes ago, moodswing5537 said:

I think gink's strong arming from Last game got me looking too hard at truthiness' investigation of Norell. It just looked like he was trying too hard. And I invited because I figured a no vote was safer d1 than a non-unanimous lynch. I mean, seriously, everyone was all over the board.

And a misread on Truthi doesn't auto make me a rebel.

Non-unanimous voting is the best kind.

20 minutes ago, moodswing5537 said:

And I unvoted because I figured a no vote was safer d1 than a non-unanimous lynch

interesting. how did you figure that out? Since statistics show that D1 lynch are *always* benefitial to town? A no lynch can be useful to town in a situation of even players, give another day of play, and this is only useful later on.

3 minutes ago, Visovics said:

interesting. how did you figure that out? Since statistics show that D1 lynch are *always* benefitial to town? A no lynch can be useful to town in a situation of even players, give another day of play, and this is only useful later on.

Okay, you got me. I suck at statistics. And, for my second game of mafia, I'll claim ignorance on the unanimous vote fallacy I had. Those are not even good reasons to vote for me as rebel.

This has been a tough one so far. While I'm still suspicious of Norell, Truth's death (and subsequent flipping town) has kind of made me think that he was right, and it was probably town v. town speculation between him and Norell. I cannot be 100% sure of that of course, but I wasn't even sure about Norell yesterday, when we might have been able to lynch him.

As to Mood, his posts definitely read rookie mistakes, but I'm not sure.