Archetype definition: our own path

By Pritoos, in Legend of the Five Rings: The Card Game

Hello all.

As the dragon big spoiler approaches, more and more cards are showing what will be one of the most defined archetypes at the beginning of the game.

Definitely, it wil be a long played dragon archetype and maybe loved and hated equally.

At this point, it is being defined with an imported terminology, that designates an archetype in another card game.

But the L5R one is a singular comunity. No other card game generated the passion and commitment in what comes to love for the lore, personalties and story, as this game has. We are not simply card players. We are much more than that. Let´s show it.

If you did not hype enough with my above words, well, think of this as an entertainment as we wait for new spoilers...

So, what I am proposing is to define a new terminology in these forums, so that when we talk about this archetype, we use our own words, not the other game ones. Lets talk about it. My first proposition is: Dragon Prodigy. Anyone can share his/her proposed terms.

Will you support me on this attempt? Who is with me?

Edited by Koriume

If I understand correctly, your question is "What do we call a deck whose strategy focuses on having a single powerful personality and supporting them with lots of attachments and other cards?"

These attachments and other cards would come from your Conflict deck. Drawing cards from your Conflict deck costs Honour. A deck which needs lots of Conflict cards would therefore be one which hopes to destroy five provinces before it hits zero Honour.

Therefore, I suggest that this deck archetype be known as "Dishonourable Dragon."

Voltron isn't another game's reference, it's an anime reference.
All the little mechs come together and form one singular big mech named Voltron.
Kinda like all the little attachments come together on a single personality and form Dragon Voltron.

If you're referring to something else, I have no idea what it could be. ;)

5 minutes ago, Bayushi Tsubaki said:

Voltron isn't another game's reference, it's an anime reference.
All the little mechs come together and form one singular big mech named Voltron.
Kinda like all the little attachments come together on a single personality and form Dragon Voltron.

If you're referring to something else, I have no idea what it could be. ;)

You are right. It comes from the anime series, in the origins. I had understood from another thread that it was a card itself. Edited my original post.

But it comes from MTG and I still propose to define our own terms.

Thanks, anyway.

These things come and go organically. I don't think that "invented" terms will stick.

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1 hour ago, Kitsu Seinosuke said:

If I understand correctly, your question is "What do we call a deck whose strategy focuses on having a single powerful personality and supporting them with lots of attachments and other cards?"

These attachments and other cards would come from your Conflict deck. Drawing cards from your Conflict deck costs Honour. A deck which needs lots of Conflict cards would therefore be one which hopes to destroy five provinces before it hits zero Honour.

Therefore, I suggest that this deck archetype be known as "Dishonourable Dragon."

Agasha Swordsmith says "no" to that ;)

"Koriume! Stop trying to make 'Prodigy' happen. It's not going to happen."

Making up new terms for terms that already exist and are recognised by the card gaming community at large is not only pointless, it's counterproductive. It's bad enough that people have to learn all the Clans, the family names, the card types, the mechanics without having to learn new words for terms they already know.

7 hours ago, Koriume said:

You are right. It comes from the anime series, in the origins. I had understood from another thread that it was a card itself. Edited my original post.

But it comes from MTG and I still propose to define our own terms.

Thanks, anyway.

You'll never be able to impose terms on the community. Magic might use the term Voltron but so did Old5R and other games.

Feel free to refer to your super unit decks differently but you should probably be prepared for other people to call them Voltron decks.

Yes L5R and Magic are different, but they also have a lot in common. Creating artificial semantic distinctions adds nothing but confusion.

I think one of the original propositions on the L5R discord for terms to use instead of Voltron was "Frosty" as in Frosty the Snowman. The logic there being that you build a snowman out of assembled parts as well.

I personally find that hilarious, but ultimately because MTG is really the granddaddy of them all it wouldn't surprise me if people just stuck with established terminology.

I expect Voltron to be the term, but would also accept:

*Highlander - there can be only one character in each conflict

*Iron Man - Bunch of upgrades and weapons

*Batman - if the attachments are generally more utility than stats

*Togashi's Christmas - If Yokuni tends to be the one we run

*Smaug's Smug Smackdown - Also if Yokuni is the one

*The Last Dragon - See above

*But Wait, There's More - if we regularly load 5+ attachments on one character

53 minutes ago, Danwarr said:

I think one of the original propositions on the L5R discord for terms to use instead of Voltron was "Frosty" as in Frosty the Snowman. The logic there being that you build a snowman out of assembled parts as well.

I personally find that hilarious, but ultimately because MTG is really the granddaddy of them all it wouldn't surprise me if people just stuck with established terminology.

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25 minutes ago, profparm said:

*The Last Dragon - See above

Now I'm going to have to make a custom card for Sho'Nuff, The Shogun...of Harlem!

If a deck is based around loading one guy up and letting that guy wreck house there's only one thing to call it:

A Voltron Deck

Why is this even a discussion? Voltron decks exist in just about every card game.

6 hours ago, Ide Yoshiya said:

"Koriume! Stop trying to make 'Prodigy' happen. It's not going to happen."

This is roughly what one of my Thrones buddies says every time I tell him L5R is on the horizon, only he uses the original Mean Girls meme. L5R = Fetch...only it's happening.

I vote Beast King GoLion Dragon

Whoooo is the master?!

(Yeah, I know, this was inspired by profparm mentioning 'The Last Dragon' as a name for a Dragon deck archetype name, but...c'mon!)

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1 hour ago, Togashi Gao Shan said:

Whoooo is the master?!

(Yeah, I know, this was inspired by profparm mentioning 'The Last Dragon' as a name for a Dragon deck archetype name, but...c'mon!)

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This is just....awesomness.

2 hours ago, Togashi Gao Shan said:

Whoooo is the master?!

(Yeah, I know, this was inspired by profparm mentioning 'The Last Dragon' as a name for a Dragon deck archetype name, but...c'mon!)

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Ummmmmmm, I checked with Sho 'Nuff; his Glory isn't high enough. :D

Edited by LordBlunt
2 hours ago, profparm said:

I expect Voltron to be the term, but would also accept:

*Highlander - there can be only one character in each conflict

*Iron Man - Bunch of upgrades and weapons

*Batman - if the attachments are generally more utility than stats

*Togashi's Christmas - If Yokuni tends to be the one we run

*Smaug's Smug Smackdown - Also if Yokuni is the one

*The Last Dragon - See above

*But Wait, There's More - if we regularly load 5+ attachments on one character

Highlander would of course cause confusion as well, since in CCGs that term typically refers to a deck with only one of any given card, by title.

Edited by Ide Yoshiya

Obviously it should be Megazord, not Voltron. This is real life stuff after all! :D

Batman sounded pretty spot on though.

54 minutes ago, HirumaShigure said:

Batman sounded pretty spot on though.

Nananana BAT CLAN

3 hours ago, Ide Yoshiya said:

Highlander would of course cause confusion as well, since in CCGs that term typically refers to a deck with only one of any given card, by title.

I've always heard that referred to as a Hundred Names deck.

23 minutes ago, Kitsu Seinosuke said:

I've always heard that referred to as a Hundred Names deck.

Who in the ninety names of **** calls it that? ?