Use a Decimator with Expose and an Upsilon with Hux. Hux gives a focus and/or Fan. Devotion to the Deci, then the Deci exposes. Rolling 4 dice wih a focus, one of which can't be cancelled? Taking this to a tournament tonight.
How to make Expose effective
Experimental interface does it without a second ship.
1 minute ago, TasteTheRainbow said:Experimental interface does it without a second ship.
True, but the Deci doesn't like stress, while the Upsilon can take Pattern Analyzer.
Friend of mine used to run a RAC/Fel build build ysanne, experimental interface and expose. Focus or tl for your action then EI off ysanne for expose. 3 actions, 2 tokens and an extra dice. Was quite nasty back before autothrusters...
31 minutes ago, Celestial Lizards said:Use a Decimator with Expose and an Upsilon with Hux. Hux gives a focus and/or Fan. Devotion to the Deci, then the Deci exposes. Rolling 4 dice wih a focus, one of which can't be cancelled? Taking this to a tournament tonight.
Fanatical Devotion gets less helpful the more dice you have.
Just now, thespaceinvader said:Fanatical Devotion gets less helpful the more dice you have.
How? You have a better chance of a focus. I can't tell you how many times I've used it with 2 or 3 dice and gotten only hits and blanks.
4 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:Fanatical Devotion gets less helpful the more dice you have.
Hux' ability gets less effective the fewer ships you have. Fanatical devotion gets better with more dice, technically. But it's more frightening on a small tie fighter than something throwing a ton of dice at you anyways.
I also made a Kir Kanos-Upsilon build that I'm debating in whether I should use that or the Deci-Batwing
15 minutes ago, Celestial Lizards said:How? You have a better chance of a focus. I can't tell you how many times I've used it with 2 or 3 dice and gotten only hits and blanks.
THere are four things that can happen with FD, assuming you actually roll a focus and have it left to spend on the attack:
1: you roll equal or less hits/crits than they rolled evades. This is the perfect case, the focussed die is unblockable and you would have otherwise done no damage.
2: You roll exactly 1 more hit than their natural results, and they have a token which could improve the result. They choose not to spend the token, FD just saved them a token they might otherwise have spent for later. Could be good, could be bad.
3: You have a mix of hits and crits, they have evades, but not as many as your good results. They get to cancel crits before your unblockable hit. Good for them.
4: They roll fewer evades than your hits/crits, and never have a chance to even cancel a crit before they get to the FD result. FD did nothing.
The more hits/crits you end up with, the more likely you are to end up with one of the questionable or negative outcomes.
FD really isn;'t as good as it looks, and it's by far at its best with small die counts.
Edited by thespaceinvader2 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:THere are three things that can happen with FD, assuming you actually roll a focus and have it left to spend on the attack:
1: you roll equal or less hits/crits than they rolled evades. This is the perfect case, the focussed die is unblockable and you would have otherwise done no damage.
2: You roll exactly 1 more hit than their natural results, and they have a token which could improve the result. They choose not to spend the token, FD just saved them a token they might otherwise have spent for later. Could be good, could be bad.
3: You have a mix of hits and crits, they have evades, but not as many as your good results. They get to cancel crits before your unblockable hit. Good for them.
4: They roll fewer evades than your hits/crits, and never have a chance to even cancel a crit before they get to the FD result. FD did nothing.
The more hits/crits you end up with, the more likely you are to end up with one of the questionable or negative outcomes.
FD really isn;'t as good as it looks, and it's by far at its best with small die counts.
It's still worth it because it's a boosted Fleet Officer, which I love to use on my TIE Shuttles.
The most effective role for Expose is conversation starter.
Player A: "I'm building something around Expose."
Player B: "Don't waste your time, that card is garbage."
Player C: "It's okay for casual play, but it isn't competitive."
Player D: "I know a guy that won a Store Championship with Expose."
And so forth.
Soon comming to a gaming group near you. Viktor Hel with expose
1 hour ago, Celestial Lizards said:Use a Decimator with Expose and an Upsilon with Hux. Hux gives a focus and/or Fan. Devotion to the Deci, then the Deci exposes. Rolling 4 dice wih a focus, one of which can't be cancelled? Taking this to a tournament tonight.
Why is this so good? if you have a Phantom you just take a focus action. Bam, 4 attack dice with a focus and defense.
41 minutes ago, Smutpedler said:Friend of mine used to run a RAC/Fel build build ysanne, experimental interface and expose. Focus or tl for your action then EI off ysanne for expose. 3 actions, 2 tokens and an extra dice. Was quite nasty back before autothrusters...
You mean back before scum.............
I play scum, but my brother (Celestial Lizards) plays Empire so I like to find his weak spots. Unfortunately this is not one of them.
It seemed to work well on decimators back in the day. Super nasty to play against.
Glad people gave up on it. I feel like it's still viable.
1 hour ago, Celestial Lizards said:It's still worth it because it's a boosted Fleet Officer, which I love to use on my TIE Shuttles.
If you could fit it on a TIE shuttle, that would be a great idea.
But you need at least a Lambda...
3 hours ago, Dwing said:Soon comming to a gaming group near you. Viktor Hel with expose
Is the Kihrasdxddbv piloted exclusively by edgelords? Viktor Hel, Talonbane Cobra; so much edge.
I'm not sure why people are so down on expose. It is a little expensive, but if you are a low agility ship it seems like a decent choice. Especially if you have some other way to also get a focus.
Edited by BadMotivator5 minutes ago, BadMotivator said:I'm not sure why people are so down on expose. It is a little expensive, but if you are a low agility ship it seems like a decent choice. Especially if you have some other way to also get a focus.
Because maths. Except for sheer number of dice it's not worth spending an action for an extra one rather than more mods. Spending 4 points to get roughly the same effect as a focus or TL is bad.
Edited by thespaceinvaderSure, but it's not necessarily an either/or question. You can have a target lock or a focus as well as expose potentially. I agree it should probably be 3 points instead of 4 though.
Unless you can get all 3 it's not worth the action or points for expose
There's definitely better options, but Expose/Experimental Interface Chiraneu and a (prenerf) phantom was the list I brought to my very first tournament and I got 4th, only missing winning my first top 4 game due to a simultaneous attack rule, and his PS 8 drawing a Pilot crit when he had 1 hull left and Determination. My decimator exploded as a result.
4 dice turret is super nice, and usually the TL is the better action to take since Chiraneu can modify at least 1 focus.
Yup. And you can target lock the previous round to set yourself up.
What would make Expose amazing and worth the cost is if it was a "combat phase" thing. Where instead of performing it as an action, you choose at the start of the combat phase to cause the card to activate.