Sweeping Strike:
Melee Attack: Your front edge is treated as touching the front edge of all enemies at range 1 that you are not engaged with.
I understand from the article and picture that Lord Hawthorn is considered engage with units he isn't touching at range 1, but once he becomes engaged with a unit, will he still be able to attack another unit at range 1 that he isn't engaged with?
yeah, if he is engaged but is on like a corner tray of a block and there is an enemy within range 1 he would be engaging them.
It's a melee attack ability so it only applies for the duration of that melee attack. As soon as the attack ends, he is no longer engaged and so can initiate another attack against a different target and the initial target could not follow up with its own melee attack (at least under normal circumstances and using upgrades revealed so far).
16 hours ago, jek said:yeah, if he is engaged but is on like a corner tray of a block and there is an enemy within range 1 he would be engaging them.
The enemies don't need to be in front of you just at range one of you. The front edge to front edge is to clarify for flanking rules.
We couldn't agree on whether Sweeping Strikes works with Charge or not. Say Lord Hawthorne dials in a move/charge that brings him within 1 range of one or more targets... can he attack those targets? Does he get a panic token for not colliding or does "treated as touching the front edge" apply?
29 minutes ago, Daverman said:We couldn't agree on whether Sweeping Strikes works with Charge or not. Say Lord Hawthorne dials in a move/charge that brings him within 1 range of one or more targets... can he attack those targets? Does he get a panic token for not colliding or does "treated as touching the front edge" apply?
if you are talking about whether you can attack a charge target that you just get into range 1 of then it doesn't because you would not be colliding and since Sweeping Strikes only is in affect during a melee attack and you only attack during a charge AFTER you have collided with a unit. But if you are asking if he would be able to attack OTHER targets he didn't collide with then...probably?
Yes, it does work with a charge; providing he contacts an enemy.
RR 16.3 If a unit resolving a charge collides with an enemy unit, the charging unit performs a melee attack action targeting that enemy unit after the move is complete.
This melee attack action triggers Hawthorn's second attack, which then checks whether he is engaged with another enemy. This is where Sweeping Strike kicks in and counts all unengaged enemies as engaged.
If he doesn't contact there is no melee attack action and nothing to trigger Sweeping Strike.
3 hours ago, Orcdruid said:The enemies don't need to be in front of you just at range one of you. The front edge to front edge is to clarify for flanking rules.
So he has a 360 degree attack radius because of sweeping strike?
Another ability that hinges on the rules for line of sight. If all ranged effects require line of sight, so will Sweeping Strikes.
I doubt this is how it works, but it's one more interaction waiting on that LoS ruling.
43 minutes ago, Budgernaut said:Another ability that hinges on the rules for line of sight. If all ranged effects require line of sight, so will Sweeping Strikes.
I doubt this is how it works, but it's one more interaction waiting on that LoS ruling.
As long as I'm not the only one curious about that and unsure. I have had separate units front to back so that I can jump units to defend if needed, but if Hawthorne is engaged with a unit single rank unit, and another unit is directly behind the engaged unit, it appears currently that Lord Hawthorne would be able to attack through one unit and hit the one behind. With allied units blocking movement, if he doesn't need line of sight, and being engaged with a unit does prevent him from attacking other units at range 1, I could see this being incredibly useful.