so FFG screw up the ship token with a misprint and fix it with this in the FAQ

C-ROC CRUISER RULESHEET (SPECIAL RULES, THE C-ROC CRUISER SHIP, PAGE 2)
The second, sentence should read:
"The ship token is divided into two halves by the by the firing arc. The front
base and shaded area of the ship token denoting its primary firing arc
comprise the fore section. The rear base and unshaded area of the ship
token comprise the aft section."

so what does that mean for the other epic ships with the blue line ?
are the firing arc's now the denoting lines for fore and aft

FFG this is the worst way to fix a problem i've seen in ages

FBJ

Uh...no? They only FAQed the CROC; why would it apply to any other ships?

It might not be the ideal fix, but it's the only feasible one. What are they going to do, print thousands of new cardboard tokens and ship one to every person in the world with a CROC?

No, it means for the C-ROC specifically, the arc line is also the dividing line. It's only an erratum for the C-ROC rulebook.

It was the most effective and least damaging way to fix what was obviously a pretty major production error, I don't have a problem with the fix at all - though I have a bit of an issue with the error making it through in the first place.

4 minutes ago, Ailowynn said:

It might not be the ideal fix, but it's the only feasible one. What are they going to do, print thousands of new cardboard tokens and ship one to every person in the world with a CROC?

oh well when i complained about it and the lack of range 1-5 ruler
they replied that they will be sending me replacements with blue lines and rulers ?
now i'm interested in seeing what's going to arrive in the post

5 minutes ago, Ailowynn said:

Uh...no? They only FAQed the CROC; why would it apply to any other ships?

It might not be the ideal fix, but it's the only feasible one. What are they going to do, print thousands of new cardboard tokens and ship one to every person in the world with a CROC?

Yeah, actually. You email their customer support, they ship you the piece. Companies do that **** every day.

5 minutes ago, FlashBackJack said:

oh well when i complained about it and the lack of range 1-5 ruler
they replied that they will be sending me replacements with blue lines and rulers ?
now i'm interested in seeing what's going to arrive in the post

I'd be surprised if they send the replacement baseplate post errata.

The lack of the ruler I'm assuming is because they didn't actually include any range 4+ cards in the set. I was a little weirded out by that myself.

5 minutes ago, kris40k said:

Yeah, actually. You email their customer support, they ship you the piece. Companies do that **** every day.

I'm assuming that the issue with that is that they don't actually have a stock of the correct piece. The production error will be on everything.

Just now, thespaceinvader said:

I'm assuming that the issue with that is that they don't actually have a stock of the correct piece. The production error will be on everything.

Sure.

That is something that can be reprinted.

Very little impact on the game. People will complain about anything.

Just now, kris40k said:

Sure.

That is something that can be reprinted.

Or addressed in the rules. For much cheaper, less hassle, and confirmed non-issue for those who might take the ship to the event and never bother with customer service, which I assume would be a large number of folks.

Which is what they did, and it works. It's not pretty, unfortunately, but it works.

they obviously have versions of the token with the line
as shown on this site

Just now, FlashBackJack said:

they obviously have versions of the token with the line
as shown on this site

Look closer, that's the Gozanti token

1 minute ago, ArbitraryNerd said:

Or addressed in the rules. For much cheaper, less hassle, and confirmed non-issue for those who might take the ship to the event and never bother with customer service, which I assume would be a large number of folks.

Which is what they did, and it works. It's not pretty, unfortunately, but it works.

Exactly, its the lazy approach.

I'm not saying it doesn't functionally work, but it is the shitier choice. It would show more pride in their work to correct the obvious mistake. The FAQ can handle people playing with the model until the replacement pieces are printed and shipped out to people.

1 minute ago, Killerardvark said:

Look closer, that's the Gozanti token

Could be, but they both are gozanti type ships so look similar
it does have Scum colours for the token though

4 minutes ago, FlashBackJack said:

Could be, but they both are gozanti type ships so look similar
it does have Scum colours for the token though

Nope, it has Imperial green, not Scum yellow.

5 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Nope, it has Imperial green, not Scum yellow.

err no
the stat bar on the back is scum colours not imperial grey

So it is.

That really makes me think that what happened was that they copied across the IMperial artwork and managed to delete the blue line in the process.

i just don't understand ???
the CROC with the blue line is an FFG official image from their site

Looks like a photoshop job. You're right that the stat line is scum, but the arc is imperial. Weird. Either way, this is clearly not a production token and therefore prolly not very relevant to this discussion.

Personally, I'll just play with it as is with the FAQ. I play epic prolly once or twice per year so it's not a significant impact on me. Or maybe I'll just paint the line on.

1 minute ago, FlashBackJack said:

i just don't understand ???
the CROC with the blue line is an FFG official image from their site

That only means that they created that image. Whether it was digital or a photograph, whether it was of actual components or mockups, is unrelated to that fact.

There's also the fact that the image you linked has a green firing arc, while the real one must obviously be (and is) scum colored.

Somebody got fired at ffg that day...

agreed
yes they just did a piss poor copy and paste
but this costs AU$120 in australia and i expected it to be correct
not buggered up and FAQ'd to fix it
it just shows that FFG are going down hill in quality and ideas
the original designers have clearly moved on to newer products
whoever is making the decisions now are just coasting along because we buy the product
this is why GW started to fail and people are only going back to it because they have listened to the players
and made changes

9 minutes ago, FlashBackJack said:

i just don't understand ???
the CROC with the blue line is an FFG official image from their site

It's a digital mockup, not the final component.

The final component doesn't have the line.

The way I see it (having made the mistake) they had two choices:

1: Acknowledge the mistake, announce that they intend to reprint the entire set, basically to replace a single component. Deal with mass replacement of the component, refund requests, possible recalls. Deal with the resulting complaints and extensive costs.

2: Fix the mistake with a minor errata that has almost no impact on gameplay and minimal cost to FFG.

Either way they made a mistake, either way it looks bad for them, but the second way causes a lot less problems and expense for them. I don't have the slightest problem with it. Even when I eventually get round to using my c-roc as anything other than a fancy shelf decoration, it's going to make almost no difference to how it plays in practice. And the vast majority of the value of the c-roc - the scyk pilots and standard-play components - all work fine whether or not the baseplate is wrongly printed.

It woudl have been better to not make the mistake in the first place, of course.

Tl;dr? It makes almost no difference. Why do you care?

As it stands, even getting a 'fixed' base with the blue line doesn't change anything, since, due to the FAQ, the blue line on the CROC cardboard means utterly nothing.

You can only complain if you play epic every month AND can provide irrefutable proof of imbalance because of the lack of that blue line on that particular ship, IMO.