Nobody else noticed the new FAQ yet.....

By Iylankano, in Star Wars: Armada

New riekeen is good, now you can field a more diverse squadron makeup and get a nice little bonus. Don't have to worry about stuffing it with aces to maximize value of his ability.

You know who the TRC thing doesn't hurt? Ackbar. You usually weren't getting attacks out of both sides, so being only able to TRC one attack isn't too bad with him!

11 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

A better idea would be to discuss the FAQ release and stop making it all about you though.

Nah you guys like hating on me.

I see the same few posters like every time. (; opposition on principle. Regardless of discussion.

5 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

Nah you guys like hating on me.

I see the same few posters like every time. (; opposition on principle. Regardless of discussion.

I seem to have misplaced my violin otherwise I would be playing you a tune

23 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

I got a better idea. How about I ask for apologies for all the rude dismissal, personal insults, Nelson comparisons (even just last week). I didn't realize it was ok for the community to bash me and I'm supposed to be gracious.

No. I've had quite enough of people's arrogance and mistreatment of others.

You want me to be gracious? First thing I'll ask is why do you think it's acceptable to treat people the way they did.

I wrote up several responses to this, but I realized that it would just fan the flames of this pointless conflict further. My general point was this: your behavior has been just as bad.

So no. I don't think it's acceptable to treat people the way you've been treated, or the way you've been treating others. Your behavior was the one at hand, so it was the one I commented on. I won't comment further here, because we've derailed this thread more than enough.

Something we have noticed here.

The worlds meta has been massively affected by this. The european meta on the other hand is barely impacted. 1 big ship with mass flotillas, as good as ever.

1 minute ago, Ginkapo said:

Something we have noticed here.

The worlds meta has been massively affected by this. The european meta on the other hand is barely impacted. 1 big ship with mass flotillas, as good as ever.

But now with less lifeboats and BCC!

3 minutes ago, Onidsen said:

your behavior has been just as bad.

Careful. I got a warning for saying something similar before. Just dont respond.

1 minute ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

But now with less lifeboats and BCC!

That wasnt really an issue in Europe anyway.

3 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Something we have noticed here.

The worlds meta has been massively affected by this. The european meta on the other hand is barely impacted. 1 big ship with mass flotillas, as good as ever.

Can't find the lists, but didn't they stack BCCs?

1 minute ago, Valca said:

Can't find the lists, but didn't they stack BCCs?

The winner did. With 5 Tie Bombers. Not really an issue. Only need 1 reroll with single black die bombers anyway.

I think I saw him reroll twice once.

2 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Something we have noticed here.

The worlds meta has been massively affected by this. The european meta on the other hand is barely impacted. 1 big ship with mass flotillas, as good as ever.

Very interesting.

Although I do believe Sloane will likely be the bigger counter to mass flotillas going forward.

Just now, Ginkapo said:

Careful. I got a warning for saying something similar before. Just dont respond.

Gotcha. I'll shut down. Not worth it, especially when I'm just starting to participate in these forums for real.

Back on topic, I'm a fan of the BCC change. The Rieekan change was better than anything I'd come up with. TRCs was needed, but not on my radar. Demolisher I thought was fine in the current meta, but the change makes sense, and is exactly the way I'd have done it. Rhymer surprised me, but I suppose it shouldn't have. Close range is still better than distance 1, but it does up the value of Gallant Haven. Rhymer can't be used to flush squadrons out of the Haven bubble anymore, which might become an issue.

The Biggs/Haven/Jan Ors/Rieekan combo hasn't been nerfed hugely, but what it has lost is consistent damage output. It may not be able to be killed, but it isn't guaranteed to wipe out an opposing force in the same way.

Secret video of the FFG employee in the process of writing this FAQ

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Wish they had nerfed Biggs instead of Rieekan :angry:

1 hour ago, Blail Blerg said:

If you're trying to say it wasn't the whole community against me yes. Thank you. I appreciated that. I mean here to call out the apologists.

If you mean to also say you had similar beliefs about game balance, I thank you for that too and your thoughts on the matter.

It could also be said I'd thank the community members who didn't simply begin with condescending dismissal and truisms and trying to smother discussion and not being absolutely insulting to me from the get go. But I don't think I need to thank people for thinking and testing for themselves and simple courtesy.

You will find something new to cry about within two or three months. That's how trolls roll.

i think these changes will really help out the game at the tournament level. Not much will change for casual play. I think I will keep playing rhymer the way the card reads in casual games.

3 minutes ago, Voloch said:

Wish they had nerfed Biggs instead of Rieekan :angry:

I think its because Biggs, outside of Rieekan, isn't that big of a deal... I mean, he's useful, but he doesn't actually reduce effective damage to 0 - the damage is always going somewhere.

With Rieekan, you can be off-putting that damage to something that "Already Died", thus nullifying that damage completely...

That's a bigger problem, and coupled with Rieekan being as Rieekan is... That make the 'lynchpin' of the broken combo Rieekan, not Biggs.

If you Nerfed Biggs in anyway, all you'd do is stop seeing Biggs outside of Rieekan lists... Whereas now, there's still a use for him there.

1 minute ago, ninclouse2000 said:

I think I will keep playing rhymer the way the card reads in casual games.

Uhhhhh, if your opponent lets you, but that's really not cool in a casual game. Unless you let him play Rieekan as he was written?

Just now, geek19 said:

Uhhhhh, if your opponent lets you, but that's really not cool in a casual game. Unless you let him play Rieekan as he was written?

I typically only play one person and yes I would absolutely discuss this FAQ with him and get his input. I know him quite well and I assume he will not want to change rhymer either. We rotate which side we play as weekly so if we play per the FAQ changes, I'm ok with that too. Neither of us have ever used reiken and we made a house rule that you can't place your commander on a flotilla already. He hates demolished so I assume we will be using this new nerfed version.

3 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

I think its because Biggs, outside of Rieekan, isn't that big of a deal... I mean, he's useful, but he doesn't actually reduce effective damage to 0 - the damage is always going somewhere.

With Rieekan, you can be off-putting that damage to something that "Already Died", thus nullifying that damage completely...

That's a bigger problem, and coupled with Rieekan being as Rieekan is... That make the 'lynchpin' of the broken combo Rieekan, not Biggs.

If you Nerfed Biggs in anyway, all you'd do is stop seeing Biggs outside of Rieekan lists... Whereas now, there's still a use for him there.

I have never touched Rieekan, but Biggs with Ors and Gallant Haven. It's just stupid with stupid on top. I don't blame Ors og Gallant Haven, I blame Biggs.

1 - Rieekan - I would argue that new Rieekan is more fun to play AS. You now have to pick when to use his power per round instead of just being passive.

2 - Rhymer - Imps have more long range options and with Sloane the change makes sense.

3 - Demo - Change rewards better navigation to set up shots. Again, Imps have more tools now.

4 - Lifeboat - Leaders should fight. It's more epic!

5 - TRC - it really was hard to set up double-arc shots but I'm OK with this.

6 - BCC - I guess rerolling 4-5 times is a bit extreme but I'm OK with this.

Didn't really think the Rhymer change was necessary, but with Sloane coming, maybe it was. As for the rest, meh, they will have little to no effect on 'my' games.

I've always preferred correcting issues with future releases, rather than errata, but in the long run, if the changes help the game, then it's all good.

This should be interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing what post-faq store championship data starts looking like.

18 minutes ago, Voloch said:

I have never touched Rieekan, but Biggs with Ors and Gallant Haven. It's just stupid with stupid on top. I don't blame Ors og Gallant Haven, I blame Biggs.

You should be blaming Gallant Haven in that instance, for the actual Damage prevention.

It only works when the Target of the attack is under Gallant Haven's Protection.

It doesn't work if its merely "Biggs'd" into Gallant Haven's Range.

*Because Biggs dealing damage is not an attack, and Gallant Haven only protects from damage from an attack.

1 hour ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

A better idea would be to discuss the FAQ release and stop making it all about you though.

Impressive side step, now when he responds he's the villain for being off topic, and you get to ignore his unfortunately accurate assessment of the forums...

Very impressive!