6 hours ago, JJs Juggernaut said:I'm mainly just trying to figure out how this game can be balanced...we seem to have a plethora of powerful abilities.
I understand being busy IRL, and so I don't want to hold that against Tirion or Ard.
Tirion doesn't seem to have much reasoning to his posts so far though, and has claimed to follow Ard and Biggs' suggestions when it comes to other people. Following can be suspicious.
Why are you worrying about that? Thats what Ovin was doing too.
Ok, so Tirion seems very confused, so he is either legimately confused, or he is a Sith faking it to draw attention away from him. If he is not a Sith and is confused, he is following what other players say, which is very risky.
##Vote Tirion
Either we have an actual defensive argument, or the "wasted vote on me, I don't know how people think my posts don't stack up" again
10 hours... Guys, it's no longer benefitial to have a no kill anymore, we are in odd numbers...
While Tirion doesn't sit well with me, I think Gnip's pushing for on being town is fairly damning and far too important to ignore.
## Vote Onidsen
5 hours ago, Visovics said:Ok, so Tirion seems very confused, so he is either legimately confused, or he is a Sith faking it to draw attention away from him. If he is not a Sith and is confused, he is following what other players say, which is very risky.
##Vote Tirion
Either we have an actual defensive argument, or the "wasted vote on me, I don't know how people think my posts don't stack up" again
Those are legitimate defenses. Not sure what your looking. Everything brought against me is a false representation of what I have said. Not sure exactly what you are looking for in a defence. I've let you know that town would be eating it's time.
So yeah there is the defense you didn't want to hear again ?
3 hours ago, moodswing5537 said:While Tirion doesn't sit well with me, I think Gnip's pushing for on being town is fairly damning and far too important to ignore.
## Vote Onidsen
This is as good a reason as any.
##vote @Onidsen
Oni has more to demonstrate he's town than tirion.
##vote tirion
6 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:Oni has more to demonstrate he's town than tirion.
##vote tirion
Amateur you only have a double.
8 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:Oni has more to demonstrate he's town than tirion.
##vote tirion
Valin Horn
13 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:Oni has more to demonstrate he's town than tirion.
##vote tirion
Oni has also done considerably more to demonstrate he is scum than Tirion.
Though I shall humour you, what has Oni done to demonstrate that he is town?
3 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:Oni has also done considerably more to demonstrate he is scum than Tirion.
Though I shall humour you, what has Oni done to demonstrate that he is town?
I've written on my issues with Oni. If you have something new i'd love to hear it.
13 minutes ago, Tirion said:Valin Horn
I actually had to look this up. Right spot in the lore.
23 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:Oni has more to demonstrate he's town than tirion.
##vote tirion
I'm confused, if Oni has more to prove, why didn't you vote for him?
7 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:I've written on my issues with Oni. If you have something new i'd love to hear it.
Yes, lets have a look shall we:
23 hours ago, Madaghmire said:Vis, Biggs, Gink are untouchable. Only way this changes is if they are the only three left alive.
I'm still 50/50 on Oni, because I still really don't like that question , but I dont think we should vote him because it does betray knowledge he otherwise shouldn't have. If it wasn't just a fishing expedition.
Moodswing reads town to me.
JJ and Tirion are where we should be looking imo.
And your thoughts on Tirion:
23 hours ago, Madaghmire said:Not desperate, exasperated.
I could see voting Tirion, although I haven't been able to get any kind of read on him.
Real inspired work Mad.
I feel very strongly the scum are amongst Mad, Onid and JJ. They are all soft defending each other and have soft defended GNips D1. Add in that Mad is sooooo bothered that he is seen as town and it just gets worse.
Tirion just looks like he doesnt know how to play Mafia, which @Tirion is nothing to be proud of so no need to like my post above.
Just now, moodswing5537 said:I'm confused, if Oni has more to prove, why didn't you vote for him?
I meant that i felt there was more evidence for oni being town than there was for tirion being...well anything.
Valin Horn is a decent claim but could also be a fake. He's in the right spot lore wise but also obscure enough to be a decent fake claim. That said, its also very early in the voting process to drop a fake claim. I'm waiting to see if gink gives me more on Oni then has been previously discussed. I'm leaning towards redistributing my vote tho.
4 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:Yes, lets have a look shall we:
And your thoughts on Tirion:
Real inspired work Mad.
I feel very strongly the scum are amongst Mad, Onid and JJ. They are all soft defending each other and have soft defended GNips D1. Add in that Mad is sooooo bothered that he is seen as town and it just gets worse.
Tirion just looks like he doesnt know how to play Mafia, which @Tirion is nothing to be proud of so no need to like my post above.
Gink, the fact that you think I'm scum is honestly enough for me to discount your opinion wholesale. When this game is over im going to rub your face in my super ******* obvious claim like a dog who craps in the house.
2 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:my super ******* obvious claim like a dog who craps in the house.
If its super obvious just state it. If its obvious then scum have already figured it out and you are just hurting town now.
Laugh all you want, but it was me and Biggs who got GNips. So my read is hardly laughable.
##vote JJs Juggernaut
It is legitimately the best read I have at the moment. Sorry I have been quiet Day 2.
9 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:If its super obvious just state it. If its obvious then scum have already figured it out and you are just hurting town now.
Laugh all you want, but it was me and Biggs who got GNips. So my read is hardly laughable.
Would have got gnips earlier if you didnt do you damndest to sell half of us that you were scum. Your complete inability to not be a **** or represent comments in context forced a giant claim bomb on day one that only wound up working out because of this very nonorthodox setup we've got. The fact that it worked out doesn't mean it was any less stupid.
My read on Oni atm is pretty largely influenced by biggs, since I actually put a vote on him day 1, and pulled it because as Biggs stated, the question asked demonstrated a likely understanding that implies town allegiance. As stated at the time, I feel like if town then you shouldn't be asking, but that could very easily be attributable to different philosphy. Like the way I feel you should work based on whats going on, and you feel you should just rain nonsense down and hope something comes of it.
And I'm not claiming it. Clearly the all powerful and wise ginkapo managed to miss it then its more subtle than i had thought.
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But why tho?
4 minutes ago, BiggsIRL said:##vote JJs Juggernaut
It is legitimately the best read I have at the moment. Sorry I have been quiet Day 2.
But why tho?
46 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:Yes, lets have a look shall we:
And your thoughts on Tirion:
Real inspired work Mad.
I feel very strongly the scum are amongst Mad, Onid and JJ. They are all soft defending each other and have soft defended GNips D1. Add in that Mad is sooooo bothered that he is seen as town and it just gets worse.
Tirion just looks like he doesnt know how to play Mafia, which @Tirion is nothing to be proud of so no need to like my post above.
If me pointing out GNiPs suspicious behavior and only unvoting him due to your suspicious behavior is soft defending him I guess I'm guilt..../sarcasm
Mad is right though, your constant mis-representation of people is just flat out annoying to play with no matter your alignment.
8 hours ago, Ginkapo said:Why are you worrying about that? Thats what Ovin was doing too.
Because I'm trying to figure out what power roles the scum might have to balance it out....obviously the game is going to be balanced, so I think we need to be concerned with what the scum roles could be. Currently this seems "all too easy"
1 minute ago, JJs Juggernaut said:Mad is right though, your constant mis-representation of people is just flat out annoying to play with no matter your alignment.
Amen to that. +10, even.
To what I've already said, I'll add this: Jaden Korr.
And I'll defend my choice of question again. To the other PGOs, I'll say this: it didn't reveal the information you thought it did. Read the question again. The fact that you're so paranoid about it was enough to prove to me that you knew the role. But i wanted to make sure, because 3 in addition to me was...a little unbelievable. Turns out there are 4 in addition to me. Even more difficult to believe. But I'm not going to go guessing role distribution anymore. With what's been revealed this far, I have no idea what's going on in that arena.
Also, my use of the word trigger was deliberate, though perhaps I should have used the word sleep.