1 minute ago, Tirion said:

You're voting for me based on my Belvoir in this thread compared to my last games. Well in my first game I wasn't super vocal until mad had died and then Ard bizarrely killed gink.

In my second game I was super vocal from the beginning and was mafia. So stating that based on my last games you are finding my behavior mafia makes no sense. Unless you are a sith and clearly know you can go after me.

##vote @moodswing5537

9 hours ago, Tirion said:

People can vouch I've been mia a from most forms of social media for a couple days now.

And JJ I only casually went after you cause Biggs wanted it, I just can't tell that mustache no.

You've said very little, and yet somehow these dont stack up

11 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

And I guess ard, but his interview is today i think so hoping we start to see more from him.

Okay, so... that was actually yesterday. Rekt, but it's over now one way or the other.

The more I've thought about it, the more I think the layout of this one is super weird. I could even see up to four Sith, if our "vanilla" roles are ALL PGOs, as it sort of appears.

Figure, we have 6 PGOs and a pair of power roles, against 4 Sith. That kind of seems like it would be balanced if they're activated PGOs (vs always on).

I could also see up to 4 always-on PGOs with maybe a power role or two against 4 Sith being an interesting game: the Sith have to lynch the PGOs to win. If that's the case, having a solid bloc of 3 of them well-identified early on could be huge.

I'm just trying to fit together how we could have all this power on the town side and the Sith still have a chance. They have to be sitting on some kind of filthy sneakiness over there, and I'm loath to find out what it is...

14 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

Okay, so... that was actually yesterday. Rekt, but it's over now one way or the other.

The more I've thought about it, the more I think the layout of this one is super weird. I could even see up to four Sith, if our "vanilla" roles are ALL PGOs, as it sort of appears.

Figure, we have 6 PGOs and a pair of power roles, against 4 Sith. That kind of seems like it would be balanced if they're activated PGOs (vs always on).

I could also see up to 4 always-on PGOs with maybe a power role or two against 4 Sith being an interesting game: the Sith have to lynch the PGOs to win. If that's the case, having a solid bloc of 3 of them well-identified early on could be huge.

I'm just trying to fit together how we could have all this power on the town side and the Sith still have a chance. They have to be sitting on some kind of filthy sneakiness over there, and I'm loath to find out what it is...

Biggs had guessed at it being a cult game. Would balance it quickly

As I said votes me are a waste of town time but as I have been really busy the past few days and hoopfest is this weekend my participation isn't about to change. So if it will save time

##vote tirion

Can we have a no self voting rule please.

1 minute ago, Ginkapo said:

Can we have a no self voting rule please.

Second it

16 minutes ago, Tirion said:

As I said votes me are a waste of town time but as I have been really busy the past few days and hoopfest is this weekend my participation isn't about to change. So if it will save time

##vote tirion

Jesus Christ! This martyrdom bs is ridiculous, and not a defense. I get that you are busy, but I'm not gonna accept your absence as a reason for you being town! USE YOUR WORDS!

38 minutes ago, Visovics said:

Second it

Passed. I did it as a joke move last game and it's gone a little too far now.

My words are gink is all over the place and not making sense. But this is a very complex have and I haven't been able to properly dissect it

Frankly, I really want to hear something, anything, out of JJs.

1 hour ago, Tirion said:

My words are gink is all over the place and not making sense. But this is a very complex have and I haven't been able to properly dissect it

Point out what doesn't make sense and we can discuss it.

Game*

1 hour ago, moodswing5537 said:

Point out what doesn't make sense and we can discuss it.

I have multiple times......

24 hours remain .

5 to hammer

The living:

@Madaghmire

@Ginkapo

@BiggsIRL

@Visovics

@Ardaedhel

@JJs Juggernaut

@Onidsen (1) Gink

@moodswing5537

@Tirion (2) Onidsen, Mood

The Dead:

Ovi, Ghost, CNinja

4 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:

Okay, so... that was actually yesterday. Rekt, but it's over now one way or the other.

The more I've thought about it, the more I think the layout of this one is super weird. I could even see up to four Sith, if our "vanilla" roles are ALL PGOs, as it sort of appears.

Figure, we have 6 PGOs and a pair of power roles, against 4 Sith. That kind of seems like it would be balanced if they're activated PGOs (vs always on).

I could also see up to 4 always-on PGOs with maybe a power role or two against 4 Sith being an interesting game: the Sith have to lynch the PGOs to win. If that's the case, having a solid bloc of 3 of them well-identified early on could be huge.

I'm just trying to fit together how we could have all this power on the town side and the Sith still have a chance. They have to be sitting on some kind of filthy sneakiness over there, and I'm loath to find out what it is...

Theres actually a few things in here that leads me to doubt your town-ness, especially if my read on the makeup of this game is right.

I'd like to know if Biggs/Gink/Vis see what I see in Ards post.

3 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

I'd like to know if Biggs/Gink/Vis see what I see in Ards post.

I could get on board with this.

On 6/22/2017 at 11:47 AM, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I have a feeling that they're votes are much like mine.

That is to say, that because Gink has repeatedly misinterpreted posts, often taking sentences out of context and complaining when people's action do not conform to his edits, he starts a 'bell' ringing in the back of my head. I know not what the reasoning was for either Mad or Onidsen, except so far as they have posted here. To that extent, I feel they are getting the same 'vibe' from Gink as I am.

I feel that they are likely town, as far as I can tell Day 1. Their votes are trustworthy in so far as they are thinking what I am thinking about Gink, see above.

I currently have a vote in, but this answer to @BiggsIRL Question of a now known Sith is beating me in the back of the head. Why does GNIPS try to paint positive the contributions of @Madaghmire and @Onidsen , for any other reason than to remove them from our investigations? At first I pushed it off as leaching onto other attacks against Gink to look like part of the town, but now I re-read it differently....More meditation is in order here....

##unvote @Tirion

I need to evaluate all this information coming to light.

Fortunately Ard knows how to actually tell his town mates that he is town, which he did pretty quickly after I claimed yesterday. Unlike someone else.......

On 20/06/2017 at 8:13 PM, Tirion said:

## confirm

On 22/06/2017 at 4:05 AM, Tirion said:

By this logic you make no sense.

On 22/06/2017 at 4:11 AM, Tirion said:

You're voting for me based on my Belvoir in this thread compared to my last games. Well in my first game I wasn't super vocal until mad had died and then Ard bizarrely killed gink.

In my second game I was super vocal from the beginning and was mafia. So stating that based on my last games you are finding my behavior mafia makes no sense. Unless you are a sith and clearly know you can go after me.

##vote @moodswing5537

On 22/06/2017 at 4:19 AM, Tirion said:

Nice deflection

........

On 22/06/2017 at 7:51 AM, Tirion said:

What are you talking about? I was town and the mafia won in that game........

^This was in response to a post by me

On 22/06/2017 at 8:29 PM, Tirion said:

So I want to vote Gink but don't want to be accused of it being a mistake cause that would push them to turbo.

## Unvote @moodswing5537

On 22/06/2017 at 9:45 PM, Tirion said:

##vote @GhostofNobodyInParticular

Many of you have taken the words right out off my mouth

On 22/06/2017 at 9:50 PM, Tirion said:

##unvote @GhostofNobodyInParticular

On 23/06/2017 at 9:06 PM, Tirion said:

We've played that game already lol.

Meta: I was playing Armada last night testing out these crappy hh. By the time I checked it was locked. Biggs I have a post that I was hoping would tip you off. Yeah I voted for mood he was throwing a vote at me for what appeared to be no reason. I also voted for ghost and then was told to back off until he showed up. By the time I checked again it was hammer already.

On 23/06/2017 at 9:52 PM, Tirion said:

I'll say this about JJ. his history of being town is not in line with his style this game. Now whether that is just different real life circumstances during different games who knows.

Only reason I didn't vote is I was busy and when I got on it had already happened. I was the sixth vote.

14 hours ago, Tirion said:

What doesn't sit right? I voted.... Then was told to unvote by Ard...... So I did.

I had Armada last night, work today and a birthday dinner tonight......

Votes on me are a wasted voting day.

14 hours ago, Tirion said:

People can vouch I've been mia a from most forms of social media for a couple days now.

And JJ I only casually went after you cause Biggs wanted it, I just can't tell that mustache no.

5 hours ago, Tirion said:

Do we speak the same language? That is not what I said.

^This was in response to a post by me

4 hours ago, Tirion said:

As I said votes me are a waste of town time but as I have been really busy the past few days and hoopfest is this weekend my participation isn't about to change. So if it will save time

##vote tirion

3 hours ago, Tirion said:

My words are gink is all over the place and not making sense. But this is a very complex have and I haven't been able to properly dissect it

58 minutes ago, Tirion said:

Game*

57 minutes ago, Tirion said:

I have multiple times......

23 minutes ago, Tirion said:

I could get on board with this.

I dont think its possible to fake being this lost.

Thats every single post by Tirion by the way.

On 6/22/2017 at 5:23 PM, ovinomanc3r said:

Actually, Gink threw a bomb but really Biggs pushed that. Some kind of pre-cooked move?

1. Between those three claims, IMHO the most trustworthy is Visovics one.

Why? As the last, it would be the weakest so no reason to throw it out. As scum move it was not good. A think he was surprised about the other two claims and he post before thinking carefully. Actually he could questioned Gink's claim but Biggs one could made him think that more of one would be plausible.

2. Biggs could just throw his claim to reinforce Gink one against a true one. It could be work at reverse. He started to question Gink claim carefully until Visovics threw his claim. I put Visovics before Biggs just cause he was not engaged defending Gink.

I am not sure about Gink. I just put it here cause if we lynch Ghost and shows townie then we have a track to follow. Visovics as scum is the weakest I think if we lynch Gink after Ghost shows townie (If he does) and he is scum then goes Biggs and Visovics so not a quite clever move if three are scum.

An that is all I could figure out about this situation. Between those three at least one is completely townie. And I think is Visovics.

Another dead Sith defending a townie? This is odd as well, and adds a third party into my investigation soup.....Wonder who will add the salt? Will it be you, @Visovics ?

21 minutes ago, moodswing5537 said:

Another dead Sith defending a townie? This is odd as well, and adds a third party into my investigation soup.....Wonder who will add the salt? Will it be you, @Visovics ?

Do you count as salt the fact that I can prove my innocence? It would involve the PM, so it is a bit risky

5 minutes ago, Visovics said:

Do you count as salt the fact that I can prove my innocence? It would involve the PM, so it is a bit risky

No, let's keep the pm reveal to a minimum. I just found it odd. That's all.