Totally Town:

Fortuitously Friendly:

Ginkapo - Good player. Moves the discussion forward. Can’t find a particularly good reason why he got knocked to -3 and then to -2. Could still be scum, but no good rationale for votes on him.

JJs Juggernaut - Needs to get a better job so he can play at “reasonable” times. Reasonable arguments when he does post. Could be a scum ploy, but meh, gut tells me he is towny.

Nauseatingly Neutral:

Visovics - Starting the Ginkapo train after Ghost unvoted. Sorta-scum slip’d that was actually nothing. Can’t place him any better than here.

moodswing5537 - Jerk that voted for me. Hasn’t said too much as of yet, aside from one liners. No good read.

ovinomanc3r - My old scum buddy. Last game when he was scum he started the vote on me, and didn’t flinch. Does this mean he and Visovics and Gink are scum buddies? Probably not, but not to be discounted.

CaribbeanNinja - I remember thinking you were scummy day 1 last game, and you feel about the same this game, so I just don’t KNOW man.

Oddly Odd:

GhostofNobodyInParticular - Seems to be neglecting his posting duties in this thread. JOKE VOTE JOKE VOTE JOKE VOTE.

Madaghmire - Lot of antagonism towards me, not a lot of investigations.

Suspiciously Scummy:

Tirion - I see you reading this thread. POST SOMETHING.

Onidsen - Voted for Gink 24 hours ago, hasn’t posted since.

Ardaedhel - POST SOMETHING! ANYTHING!

I hate the joke voting phenomenon. In my view, it is completely useless, and a distraction from our ability to catch scum. Knowing that a vote is a joke means that it can be safely ignored. I'm hesitant to accuse Ginkapo of actually being scum as a result of his advocacy for it, acknowledging that different metas and playstyles exist.

However, I put my vote on Gink for the purpose of observing his reactions under pressure. Two votes is where you have to start paying attention, especially if you're the leading candidate.

Nothing I've seen since makes me want to change it.

His defensive behavior is suggestive of a player with something to hide, and that's sufficient for a D1 hanging for me.

And Gink - this is certainly par for the course with me. I hang back, observing. I contribute, but I'm seldom the most prolific contributor. And sometimes I don't even post for *gasp* 24 hours! Heaven forbid! Don't think that I'm not paying attention. I'm watching most everything that goes on in this thread.

I'm not even going to respond to the insults. They stand to indict you well enough on their own.

Yeah, I'm good with "one liners" at this point.

I ignore gink a great deal, as he single handedly dogpiles folks for reactions. He's getting results without my help.

But I will say, I'm not hiding behind anything. I'm just not as quiet as others while watching.

Also, @BiggsIRL , if you suspect me, then vote on it!

I only have 1 vote, and there's a LOT of people not talking.

Could there be a mute player?

1 hour ago, Onidsen said:

IHowever, I put my vote on Gink for the purpose of observing his reactions under pressure. Two votes is where you have to start paying attention, especially if you're the leading candidate.

Nothing I've seen since makes me want to change it.

His defensive behavior is suggestive of a player with something to hide, and that's sufficient for a D1 hanging for me.

Yeah Onidsen, I'm really with you on this. As soon as I wake up tomorrow, I'm revoting Gink if I don't see anything different.

I really think ard has been busy. I don't think I saw him in the forums all day. The rest? Like Biggs said, tirion was reading this thread today. My vote tomorrow will be determined tomorrow. There is alot of time between then and now.

But unless Biggs shaved that Bush on his face, my vote is probably staying there. That thing is....haunting.....

1 hour ago, BiggsIRL said:

Totally Town:

Fortuitously Friendly:

Ginkapo - Good player. Moves the discussion forward. Can’t find a particularly good reason why he got knocked to -3 and then to -2. Could still be scum, but no good rationale for votes on him. (This is actually quite suspicious in my book, as I see a few reasons to day 1 lynch him already.)

JJs Juggernaut - Needs to get a better job so he can play at “reasonable” times. Reasonable arguments when he does post. Could be a scum ploy, but meh, gut tells me he is towny. (So JJ cannot post due to RL stuff and he is town? Just as having Gink here is weird, having JJ here is just as weird. I'd place him neutral)

Nauseatingly Neutral:

Visovics - Starting the Ginkapo train after Ghost unvoted. Sorta-scum slip’d that was actually nothing. Can’t place him any better than here. (Neutral with a watch for slip ups.)

moodswing5537 - Jerk that voted for me. Hasn’t said too much as of yet, aside from one liners. No good read. (neutral)

ovinomanc3r - My old scum buddy. Last game when he was scum he started the vote on me, and didn’t flinch. Does this mean he and Visovics and Gink are scum buddies? Probably not, but not to be discounted. (neutral with a watch for inactivity)

CaribbeanNinja - I remember thinking you were scummy day 1 last game, and you feel about the same this game, so I just don’t KNOW man. (You mean when you were ACTUAL scum? And we sniffed you out and lynched you? I'm really starting to think that you are either not town, or don't have good force abilities.)

Oddly Odd:

GhostofNobodyInParticular - Seems to be neglecting his posting duties in this thread. JOKE VOTE JOKE VOTE JOKE VOTE. (I'm a little suspicious of GNIPs)

Madaghmire - Lot of antagonism towards me, not a lot of investigations. (I would argue that he has just reacted to the posts, but I'd say they are appropriate so far. Neutral)

Suspiciously Scummy:

Tirion - I see you reading this thread. POST SOMETHING. (Agreed are there muted players?)

Onidsen - Voted for Gink 24 hours ago, hasn’t posted since. (Neutral, but I agree with his sentiments about Gink so far.)

Ardaedhel - POST SOMETHING! ANYTHING! (Agreed)

Again with the lists? Oh well we all know where it got you last game.

I also remember someone you say is "fortuitously friendly" (hint: not JJ) posting something about folks that list should be lynched Day 1.

I do agree with Biggs on most points though. I think @JJs Juggernaut has interesting perspective, so I want to hear what he thinks.

2 minutes ago, moodswing5537 said:

I do agree with Biggs on most points though. I think @JJs Juggernaut has interesting perspective, so I want to hear what he thinks.

What specifically do you agree with him with?

Heading to bed. See you all in the morning! I'm willing to do a one time extension of the day due to high levels of inactivity and to give JJ more of a chance to get into the conversation. Just let me know.

17 hours remaining

7 to hammer

The Living:

@Madaghmire

@ovinomanc3r

@CaribbeanNinja

@Ginkapo (3) Onisden, Madaghmire, Ovinomanc3r

@BiggsIRL (1) Moodswing

@GhostofNobodyInParticular (1) Ginkapo

@Visovics

@Ardaedhel (1) Biggs

@JJs Juggernaut

@Onidsen

@moodswing5537

@Tirion

The Dead

Always be listing. Especially right before rounds end. Gets your thoughts out there so you can help town after you die.

Conversely, throw the list away if you are town and the list maker flips scum.

Keep voting me, if you fear my glorious mustache.

2 hours ago, BiggsIRL said:

Totally Town:

Fortuitously Friendly:

Ginkapo - Good player. Moves the discussion forward. Can’t find a particularly good reason why he got knocked to -3 and then to -2. Could still be scum, but no good rationale for votes on him. (Not sure how he is moving discussion forward, outside of what he said he is trying to do from an earlier post. It relied on him getting turbo lynched, which still might happen. Hard to believe a scum would do this.)

JJs Juggernaut - Needs to get a better job so he can play at “reasonable” times. Reasonable arguments when he does post. Could be a scum ploy, but meh, gut tells me he is towny. (Not enough posts for me to get a bead. Neutral with town tendancies)

Nauseatingly Neutral:

Visovics - Starting the Ginkapo train after Ghost unvoted. Sorta-scum slip’d that was actually nothing. Can’t place him any better than here. (agreed)

moodswing5537 - Jerk that voted for me. Hasn’t said too much as of yet, aside from one liners. No good read. (agreed, total jerk)

ovinomanc3r - My old scum buddy. Last game when he was scum he started the vote on me, and didn’t flinch. Does this mean he and Visovics and Gink are scum buddies? Probably not, but not to be discounted. (agree, but something feels off here. Will take more posts to straighten out.)

CaribbeanNinja - I remember thinking you were scummy day 1 last game, and you feel about the same this game, so I just don’t KNOW man. (total scum, but in game neutral ;-)

Oddly Odd:

GhostofNobodyInParticular - Seems to be neglecting his posting duties in this thread. JOKE VOTE JOKE VOTE JOKE VOTE. (Agree)

Madaghmire - Lot of antagonism towards me, not a lot of investigations.

(seems easily swayed, but I'm more neutral here. )

Suspiciously Scummy:

Tirion - I see you reading this thread. POST SOMETHING. (agree, scum till post)

Onidsen - Voted for Gink 24 hours ago, hasn’t posted since. (Good point, seems scummy)

Ardaedhel - POST SOMETHING! ANYTHING! (have you met the guy? Total scum...lol)

Again, I only have previous games to go by, but this seems logical.

24 minutes ago, moodswing5537 said:

I do agree with Biggs on most points though. I think @JJs Juggernaut has interesting perspective, so I want to hear what he thinks.

I already gave some of my opinions, nothing much has changed since then. Though from last game it was rather suspicious when Biggs kept asking my opinion...it's a good way for scum to appear active but not really contribute. It would be nice for the silent players to chime in.

6 minutes ago, Truthiness said:

Heading to bed. See you all in the morning! I'm willing to do a one time extension of the day due to high levels of inactivity and to give JJ more of a chance to get into the conversation. Just let me know.

Yes please!!

I agree with an extension.

Also, based off of my previous posts I will put out my vote before bed, just in case I miss tomorrow.

##vote GNiPs

The general impression from his early voting and then backing off, plus frantically trying to cover himself come off as the most suspicious of anyone to me so far. Gink is hard for me to get a read on due to his usual style, but he is on my radar, just below GNiPs.

At least the Stache is contributing to the discussion, I can't in good conscience vote for it when i see folks liking posts but not wading into the frey.

##unvote @BiggsIRL

##vote @Tirion

5 minutes ago, moodswing5537 said:

At least the Stache is contributing to the discussion, I can't in good conscience vote for it when i see folks liking posts but not wading into the frey.

##unvote @BiggsIRL

##vote @Tirion

Where you at Tir?

I see no reason as of yet to move my vote from Ginkapo. However there are some folk that need to talk more or I'll swap votes and policy lynch a mute. There is a role known as silencer that can shut folks down but that requires a night action, and I don't see a reason to give such an ability a free day action. More likely Ard, who I know has a lot on his plate atm just as IRL stuff in the way. Not an excuse, but an explanation. Tirion, I need to hear more from. I don't need people to be crazy prolific, but I expect to hear from folks, at least occasionally.

If we simply dont hear from people, I'm ok with a day extension but in general I like to keep games moving along.

There were a couple of comments I wanted to respond to but I'll hit them in the AM.

1 hour ago, moodswing5537 said:

Again, I only have previous games to go by, but this seems logical.

By this logic you make no sense.

You're voting for me based on my Belvoir in this thread compared to my last games. Well in my first game I wasn't super vocal until mad had died and then Ard bizarrely killed gink.

In my second game I was super vocal from the beginning and was mafia. So stating that based on my last games you are finding my behavior mafia makes no sense. Unless you are a sith and clearly know you can go after me.

##vote @moodswing5537

3 minutes ago, Tirion said:

You're voting for me based on my Belvoir in this thread compared to my last games. Well in my first game I wasn't super vocal until mad had died and then Ard bizarrely killed gink.

In my second game I was super vocal from the beginning and was mafia. So stating that based on my last games you are finding my behavior mafia makes no sense. Unless you are a sith and clearly know you can go after me.

##vote @moodswing5537

Nah, I knew you would respond to a vote. Glad you've been paying attention though.

Just now, moodswing5537 said:

Nah, I knew you would respond to a vote. Glad you've been paying attention though.

Nice deflection

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