Well, depends on the game, but most forum games just give the idiot the win, and keeps the game rolling. It would have been like that for PT106 in my game at least.
[Mafia] Jedi Academy: Day 2
1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:I am really beginning to feel like gink wants to be lynched. I've said it a few times now, and I haven't seen anything that leads me to believe otherwise. Does idiot winning end the game, or just make it so he wins regardless of who else also wins?
Mafia Edit: In response to the above post.
What do you guys mean b "putting on record"?
Just now, Visovics said:What do you guys mean b "putting on record"?
I assume post it and actually vote.
@Ginkapo if you actually want to get bumped off today, please vote for yourself. I'll gladly toss my vote on if it means removing a non-Town from the game.
2 minutes ago, Visovics said:What do you guys mean b "putting on record"?
1 minute ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:I assume post it and actually vote.
That would be my assumption too.
Also, @BiggsIRL , mind explaining to me why you find GoNIP suspicious? Frankly, the whole unvote on Gink thing seems overblown to me. Of course, I might be biased by the fact that GoNIP feels the same way about Gink that I do.
Also, a thought that just occurred to me. Gink seems to be going out of his way to obscure the information we'll get from taking him out. By being so abrasive, and then doubling down on the behavior, it seems like he's pushing for "I'm annoyed with the way you're acting" votes on him, which dilutes the information significantly. Makes it much harder to get reads on the individual voting behavior. That's an indication of scum to me, or at least a player who's not invested in a village win - some flavor of neutral role.
4 minutes ago, BiggsIRL said:@Ginkapo if you actually want to get bumped off today, please vote for yourself. I'll gladly toss my vote on if it means removing a non-Town from the game.
Word I'm willing to let u have an idiot win to clear the waters some
Just now, Onidsen said:
That would be my assumption too.
Also, @BiggsIRL , mind explaining to me why you find GoNIP suspicious? Frankly, the whole unvote on Gink thing seems overblown to me. Of course, I might be biased by the fact that GoNIP feels the same way about Gink that I do.
Also, a thought that just occurred to me. Gink seems to be going out of his way to obscure the information we'll get from taking him out. By being so abrasive, and then doubling down on the behavior, it seems like he's pushing for "I'm annoyed with the way you're acting" votes on him, which dilutes the information significantly. Makes it much harder to get reads on the individual voting behavior. That's an indication of scum to me, or at least a player who's not invested in a village win - some flavor of neutral role.
My suspicion is centered around reading Ginkapo (and JJs) as town, and reading Ghost as one of the more scummy of the votes on Gink. My reasoning goes like this:
- Ginkapo reads town to me, so votes on him are either opportunistic scum or confused townies.
- JJs also reads town.
- Ghost is voting for Ginkapo, and does not have a great track record in the thread of investigation or voting.
- Both Ginkapo and JJs have suspicions of Ghost, and have voted for him.
Just now, BiggsIRL said:My suspicion is centered around reading Ginkapo (and JJs) as town, and reading Ghost as one of the more scummy of the votes on Gink. My reasoning goes like this:
- Ginkapo reads town to me, so votes on him are either opportunistic scum or confused townies.
- JJs also reads town.
- Ghost is voting for Ginkapo, and does not have a great track record in the thread of investigation or voting.
- Both Ginkapo and JJs have suspicions of Ghost, and have voted for him.
I suppose my next question is: why do you read Gink town?
2 minutes ago, Onidsen said:I suppose my next question is: why do you read Gink town?
Seconded.
7 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:Seconded.
Thirded. (Is that a thing?)
The words "How in the **** does Gink read town" came to my mind.
Because he's actually trying to get some conversation going, refusing to defend himself, and instead pushing back against the players that are both voting him and the wishy-washy players that "suspect" him but aren't putting their vote down. He reads to me as one of two possibilities: Vanilla Town trying to sucker in scummy votes to give Town a good set of suspects to play with going forward, or an Idiot trying to piss EVERYONE off so they bump him off like I was bumped off Day 1 last game.
Just look at page 7. Specifically @Ginkapo 's posts:
On 6/21/2017 at 9:56 AM, Ginkapo said:If you want to vote me then have the balls to do it
On 6/21/2017 at 0:46 PM, Ginkapo said:Why exactly do people want me to defend myself at this point? How does that benefit town?
23 hours ago, Ginkapo said:Have we reached that point?
23 hours ago, Ginkapo said:No i am not. At the moment to turbolynch me all of the suspected three scum need to vote.
And if they do we win as they will have shown their hand.
So yeah.
And honestly, if Gink is Scum and hes trying this hard to get lynched, he's the worst Scum since....Lando.....
9 minutes ago, BiggsIRL said:Because he's actually trying to get some conversation going, refusing to defend himself, and instead pushing back against the players that are both voting him and the wishy-washy players that "suspect" him but aren't putting their vote down. He reads to me as one of two possibilities: Vanilla Town trying to sucker in scummy votes to give Town a good set of suspects to play with going forward, or an Idiot trying to piss EVERYONE off so they bump him off like I was bumped off Day 1 last game.
Just look at page 7. Specifically @Ginkapo 's posts:
So yeah.
Hmm...all of that reads like something a good scum player would say too. As you said, you try to pay D1 the same way whether you're scum or not. Why would Gink be any different?
2 minutes ago, Onidsen said:Hmm...all of that reads like something a good scum player would say too. As you said, you try to pay D1 the same way whether you're scum or not. Why would Gink be any different?
So you have no read on me or anyone? As afterall we all play the same regardless.
Apparently I twist words but that is what you just said.
On 6/20/2017 at 8:11 AM, Ginkapo said:Ps I am aware I learnt to play on a fairly aggressive website. Shall try to change my style a bit, though bluuntness is part of me.
First Lie...(And seriously I think we all wish this one wasn't a lie
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On 6/20/2017 at 1:23 PM, Ginkapo said:## Vote Moodswing. He is grining. Why would anyone be grining right now?
Just throws a vote out there...for look at the horrible reason
On 6/20/2017 at 4:04 PM, Ginkapo said:ok, An introduction to the joke vote phase.
Everyone needs to start throwing votes around for "reasons". By doing this it starts to naturally build pressure in the game and gives us talking points.
Come on everybody let's be jokers...then gets all over GNIPs for it.
On 6/21/2017 at 2:21 AM, Ginkapo said:Here we have a vote with no reasoning whatsoever. Why Biggs? Not because of his moustache, but seemongly because he is Biggs. Onid later follows up by adding pressure to me. Presumably he votes Ard next to try and hit another experienced player....
B******* excuse. Stop making your error worse. Plus there can only be two, Sith Lord and his apprentice so using the term Sith Mafia is just silly.
Points at Mood, who did the same exact thing as him...points to there being two Sith. (that is not town, Biggs)
On 6/21/2017 at 11:46 AM, Ginkapo said:Why exactly do people want me to defend myself at this point? How does that benefit town?
Biggs says this is a town play. I read it as a "I'm hiding something" play.
21 hours ago, Ginkapo said:I am also saddened that only Biggs seems to understand what I am doing.
More of the Biggs love/hate.
21 hours ago, moodswing5537 said:I think I see what you are doing. I mean you explained what you are doing. But I get what you are saying about saving skin. Point taken.
More of the Mood Love/Hate.
19 hours ago, Ginkapo said:Tirion and JJ I cant really comment on as they are both going to be out of timezone with me all game.
Never got a great answer on this at all. "I'm on 24/7 but my 24/7 doesn't coinciede with Tirion's" Huh?
So here we see some kind of craziness unfolding. This is DAY 1! If you read this as town, I'm not sure was is going on @BiggsIRL . I can see him throwing **** against the wall to see what sticks, but this seems like a lot of ****.
I see Biggs bending over backwards to deflect for Gink. And now rereading I see that Mood and Gink may have just given each other "joke" votes to throw us off.
4 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:First Lie...(And seriously I think we all wish this one wasn't a lie
Just throws a vote out there...for look at the horrible reason
Come on everybody let's be jokers...then gets all over GNIPs for it.
Points at Mood, who did the same exact thing as him...points to there being two Sith. (that is not town, Biggs)
Biggs says this is a town play. I read it as a "I'm hiding something" play.
More of the Biggs love/hate.
More of the Mood Love/Hate.
Never got a great answer on this at all. "I'm on 24/7 but my 24/7 doesn't coinciede with Tirion's" Huh?
So here we see some kind of craziness unfolding. This is DAY 1! If you read this as town, I'm not sure was is going on @BiggsIRL . I can see him throwing **** against the wall to see what sticks, but this seems like a lot of ****.
I see Biggs bending over backwards to deflect for Gink. And now rereading I see that Mood and Gink may have just given each other "joke" votes to throw us off.
Except I never voted for @Ginkapo .....
Just now, moodswing5537 said:Except I never voted for @Ginkapo .....
No you voted for Biggs...
Sooo, how does that support my love/hate for @Ginkapo ?
1 minute ago, Ginkapo said:So you have no read on me or anyone? As afterall we all play the same regardless.
Apparently I twist words but that is what you just said.
Definitely twisting words. Try again.
What I actually said is that all of the things Biggs cites as reasons for a town read are reasonably things that an experienced scum would do D1 too.
And since you are experienced, it stands to reason that you wouldn't have a different way to play D1 if you were scum.
To be perfectly clear, my assertion is not that you and Biggs pay the same way, but that you are not likely to play D1 as scum differently than you would as town. And that is a characteristic that, if true, you share with Biggs.
both of my votes were to "wake up" other players.....not jokes.....
Just now, moodswing5537 said:both of my votes were to "wake up" other players.....not jokes.....
And that is a far better strategy for D1 than joke votes, in my opinion.
I'm probably wrong, I'm just saying that I could totally see them saying "Hey I'll come up with a stupid excuse to vote for you, you come up with a stupid reason to vote for Biggs, and we'll get everything going."
Just a lot of smoke going on here...
Just now, moodswing5537 said:both of my votes were to "wake up" other players.....not jokes.....
Wasn't your reason for voting Biggs his mustache?
Just now, CaribbeanNinja said:I'm probably wrong, I'm just saying that I could totally see them saying "Hey I'll come up with a stupid excuse to vote for you, you come up with a stupid reason to vote for Biggs, and we'll get everything going."
Just a lot of smoke going on here...
Wasn't your reason for voting Biggs his mustache?
Thats a pretty good reason tho
In my original post, I mentioned that he hadn't posted in a while, and I was trying to get his attention, which it did. i made a joke about his mustache......