2 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

/SFs like it as well because the s-loop gives them an unpredictable and difficult to block 3-speed move that can clear enough space to get range 2, and PA/FCS means they get a fully modified 4 die shot when they do.

That's gonna be an expensive bomber though - and one that's going to be subject to a LOT of focus fire.

Deathfire at 26pts? Doesn't sound so expensive. Focus fire really depends on what else is in the list with it, but yeah it's a possibility.

That's a fair point; their Segnor is speed 3 rather than the TIE/fo's speed 2.

Keeping back missiles as a 'second strike' weapon is a bit risky - as you've a fair chance of losing them rather than using them - but Quickdraw or similar can easily draw enough attention!

37 minutes ago, SOTL said:

Deathfire at 26pts? Doesn't sound so expensive. Focus fire really depends on what else is in the list with it, but yeah it's a possibility.

For Deathfire, yeah. I'd probably look at just a single cruise for him alongside EM and whichever 4 point action bomb you prefer - he's not that likely to be shooting beyond the first round, and unless you're bringing bombs, you might just as well have a generic.

28 minutes ago, Magnus Grendel said:

That's a fair point; their Segnor is speed 3 rather than the TIE/fo's speed 2.

Keeping back missiles as a 'second strike' weapon is a bit risky - as you've a fair chance of losing them rather than using them - but Quickdraw or similar can easily draw enough attention!

Not so much keeping them back as having an option to use them even if you didn't get the opening TL or misjudged the range and hit 1 instead.

2 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

For Deathfire, yeah. I'd probably look at just a single cruise for him alongside EM and whichever 4 point action bomb you prefer - he's not that likely to be shooting beyond the first round, and unless you're bringing bombs, you might just as well have a generic.

Yeah... that's the loadout. Cruise, Clusters, EM, Chips, 26pts.

Just now, SOTL said:

Yeah... that's the loadout. Cruise, Clusters, EM, Chips, 26pts.

Ah for some reason I took that to mean cluster MISSILES not cluster mines.

Sorry.

My big question before the spoil was will this be better than harpoon missiles, and it looks like a yes unless there is a big surprise.

31 minutes ago, JacknifeUK said:

My big question before the spoil was will this be better than harpoon missiles, and it looks like a yes unless there is a big surprise.

Unless Harpoon is a Scum Only 2 point missile which not only does splash damage but also applies a tractor token. . .

Because you know, Scum . .

The other thing to factor in about prockets vs cruise is availability.

Prockets is a waste of points on any ship w/o 3 agi. That limits their use to ... what 4 ships? (Awing, TAP, TAdv, or nonx7 Defenders). And among those, sometimes Vader has it but usually its only Awings using it.
Cruise Missiles can work on any ship with a 4speed, which is almost every missile user out there . Kwing is the only one i can think of w/ a missile that doesnt have a 4fwd or 4k/5k, probably another slipping my mind atm but whatever. Point is its MUCH more available than prockets.

So yeah, their difficulty in getting off a maximum attack makes sense because dang near everyone can technically use it.

So on A-Wings... general consensus is Procket < Cruise missile?

49 minutes ago, Wiredin said:

So on A-Wings... general consensus is Procket < Cruise missile?

On generics, yes. I might still put Procket on Jake Farrel.

17 minutes ago, EdgeOfDreams said:

On generics, yes. I might still put Procket on Jake Farrel.

Removing the staple is just too much of a pain.