Dash/Norra Most Efficient??

By JSwindy, in X-Wing Squad Lists

OK, so below is the basics to the list as I see it. The question is what is the best/most efficient way to run these two together. And is this combo strong enough to fight most all meta lists to at least a close match in a tournament setting. Obviously when I make a horrible pilot move, cuz I over thought it...... I'll still lose, but trying to come up with a way to hold some MOV advantage. Previously, I ran Defenders with Deathfire and I either was tabled or I won handily.

Dash/Norra (87)

Dash Rendar (55) - YT-2400

Push The Limit (3), Heavy Laser Cannon (7), Outrider (5), Engine Upgrade (4)

Norra Wexley (32) - ARC-170

Push The Limit (3), Alliance Overhaul (0)

so 13pts for 2 crew, a droid, and maybe a mod/torp for Norra?????

Basically I want to try running this this weekend and the next week to get some practice and am curious if anyone has table time with it and would suggest the most efficient upgrades

I prefer Norra with Kyle Katarn, BB-8 and either Engine Upgrade or Vectored Thrusters. The mobility and action efficiency tend to serve me more consistently than regen. Since you're concerned about MoV, go with Engine Upgrade to make Norra a little more of a points fort. This version of Norra also does a better job keeping pace with Dash to cover his donut.

If you're running PtL on Dash, then Kanan is the best crew option. Make sure you take debris fields, not asteroids.

Dash and Norra (99)

Dash Rendar (58) - YT-2400
Push The Limit (3), Heavy Laser Cannon (7), Kanan Jarrus (3), Outrider (5), Engine Upgrade (4)

Norra Wexley (41) - ARC-170
Push The Limit (3), Kyle Katarn (3), BB-8 (2), Alliance Overhaul (0), Engine Upgrade (4)

Yeah, in my experience Regen Norra still gets torn to shreds, it'd be better to have her unpredictable. I second @jmswood 's suggestion

Though I might use Mangler Cannon instead, I am VERY wary of the donut hole

Thanks guys, haven't tried bb8 on Norra yet, but was definitely on my radar. Would you suggest not using PTL????

Also, unfortunately I only have asteroids. So with Dash, do I make a tight cluster or give space for Norra to easily move through? And would you recommend holding at my edge with early bumps or go in slow or aggressive right away?

@JSwindy The only EPT I recommend for Norra is PtL. I've tried both others and definitely prefer PtL for every version of Norra I've ever flown.

To capitalize on Dash you want rocks in the middle of the play area. Rocks at range 1 of eachother leaves plenty of room for Norra to maneuver. Try to offset the rocks to shut down jousting lanes.

Your tactics should depend on matchup. This list isnreally flexible, so don't lock onto one master flight plan. Practice against the hot net lists and see what works against each.

I used to run norra with PTL, R2D2, C3po and VT, with dash.

It does have great merit to it, and norra becomes a monster in the late game. I mean a true terror. She can negate 2-3 damage if she only have one opponent, while regenerating. Usually it becomes a battle of attrition that she wins.

This takes heat off dash that can just do his thing while he hammers fully modded shots in the PTL version.

If they chase dash, he has enough mobility to get away while norra punishes the people chasing dash.

I have had succes with this Dash/Norra build

Dash, PTL,HLC, Kanan Jarrus, title, EU (58)

Norra, PTL, C3PO, R2D2, title, VT (41)

Dash Norra is my favorite list in the game. I always run push Norra with VT, R2D2, and tail gunner. I run an eco Dash with HLC, title, Lone Wolf, and Rey. With leftover points you can run a cargo chute and EI on Dash or torps on Norra. It forces them to pick one of the two while the other lights them up. Tail gunner and Norra make her super lethal from both arcs. Dash Norra is not a top tier list but it is so fun to fly!

On 6/9/2017 at 5:50 PM, jmswood said:

I prefer Norra with Kyle Katarn, BB-8 and either Engine Upgrade or Vectored Thrusters. The mobility and action efficiency tend to serve me more consistently than regen. Since you're concerned about MoV, go with Engine Upgrade to make Norra a little more of a points fort. This version of Norra also does a better job keeping pace with Dash to cover his donut.

If you're running PtL on Dash, then Kanan is the best crew option. Make sure you take debris fields, not asteroids.

Dash and Norra (99)

Dash Rendar (58) - YT-2400
Push The Limit (3), Heavy Laser Cannon (7), Kanan Jarrus (3), Outrider (5), Engine Upgrade (4)

Norra Wexley (41) - ARC-170
Push The Limit (3), Kyle Katarn (3), BB-8 (2), Alliance Overhaul (0), Engine Upgrade (4)

So I played this list a couple times last night and enjoyed it. Realistically it was not against very Meta lists or very experienced pilots, but it was fun non the less. Going to continue to practice with it. Norra was sorta the weak link as far as where they put all their damage, but a lot of the time I could bounce her around to avoid most arcs and avoid concentrated fire. I think my favorite maneuver was going 4 straight with Dash over 2 rocks and end up behind the enemy formation and held that position for three round while they chased Norra. So I need to play against a few meta lists and see how it goes and decide if the additional mobility/action efficiency on Norra is better than the Regen. Side note, I am borrowing the YT-2400 and am now convinced I need to invest in one. My next question: is Norra the best counterpart to Dash? I know Corran Horn has been a thing, and he is one of my favorites, and also Miranda can be a good, but I've not flown her much.

Corran's best builds are too expensive to run with a good Dash. The versions of Dash amd Corran that do fit together are vulnerable to a lot of hot netlists.

Miranda pairs great with Dash, and has similar weaknesses to Norra. Dash/Miranda and Dash/Norra are both solid lists with a lot of room for personal preference in upgrades.

I also fly Dash with Poe sometimes. I don't recommend it in competition, but this is my favorite Dash list:

BlackOut (98)

Poe Dameron (43) - T-70 X-Wing
Push The Limit (3), BB-8 (2), Pattern Analyzer (2), Black One (1), Autothrusters (2)

Dash Rendar (55) - YT-2400
Push The Limit (3), "Mangler" Cannon (4), Kanan Jarrus (3), Outrider (5), Engine Upgrade (4)

I'll be trying it again with Intensity on Poe. I'm hoping Intensity is the tool Poe needs to start kicking people in the teeth.

Ok, so this is a bump and a new question. I have my first store champ tomorrow and I would like to make a good showing. Unfortunately my skill level seems to be decreasing and am on a bit of a losing streak. Below are the two lists I'm debating and I don't really know what to expect. My lgs includes a skilled Echo pilot and a scum player that runs a shadow caster with a mix of z's and or a hawk. We are expecting an infusion of players I don't know, but I don't really expect many bomb lists.... Anyway:

Dash/Norra (100)

Dash Rendar (58) - YT-2400
Push The Limit (3), Heavy Laser Cannon (7), Kanan Jarrus (3), Outrider (5), Engine Upgrade (4)

Norra Wexley (42) - ARC-170
Push The Limit (3), Tail Gunner (2), R2-D2 (4), Alliance Overhaul (0), Engine Upgrade (4)

OR

Deathfire and his defenders (100)

"Deathfire" (28) - TIE Bomber
Homing Missiles (5), Cluster Mines (4), Extra Munitions (2), Long-Range Scanners (0)

Colonel Vessery (36) - TIE Defender
Juke (2), TIE/x7 (-2), Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)

Countess Ryad (36) - TIE Defender
Push The Limit (3), TIE/x7 (-2), Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)

I also some time use TB Vess.

Any suggestions, comments, flight plan ideas, etc are appreciated, guess I'm a lil nervous, I'll have fun as normal I'm sure, but I'd love to make top 4 just to make me feel better about all the money I've spent ??

31 minutes ago, JSwindy said:

Ok, so this is a bump and a new question. I have my first store champ tomorrow and I would like to make a good showing. Unfortunately my skill level seems to be decreasing and am on a bit of a losing streak. Below are the two lists I'm debating and I don't really know what to expect. My lgs includes a skilled Echo pilot and a scum player that runs a shadow caster with a mix of z's and or a hawk. We are expecting an infusion of players I don't know, but I don't really expect many bomb lists.... Anyway:

Dash/Norra (100)

Dash Rendar (58) - YT-2400
Push The Limit (3), Heavy Laser Cannon (7), Kanan Jarrus (3), Outrider (5), Engine Upgrade (4)

Norra Wexley (42) - ARC-170
Push The Limit (3), Tail Gunner (2), R2-D2 (4), Alliance Overhaul (0), Engine Upgrade (4)

OR

Deathfire and his defenders (100)

"Deathfire" (28) - TIE Bomber
Homing Missiles (5), Cluster Mines (4), Extra Munitions (2), Long-Range Scanners (0)

Colonel Vessery (36) - TIE Defender
Juke (2), TIE/x7 (-2), Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)

Countess Ryad (36) - TIE Defender
Push The Limit (3), TIE/x7 (-2), Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)

I also some time use TB Vess.

Any suggestions, comments, flight plan ideas, etc are appreciated, guess I'm a lil nervous, I'll have fun as normal I'm sure, but I'd love to make top 4 just to make me feel better about all the money I've spent ??

I think VT is better on Norra. Usually a barrel roll is better than a boost and it is 2 points less.