So that french FFG website is definitely a gold mine.

http://www.fantasyflightgames.fr/jeux/article/runewars_le_jeu_de_figurines/maegan_cyndewin

Sacred Fount (2 trays)

• When a unit enter this terrain, it can do a [Rally].
• Cover 1

Fairies Infested Glade (2 trays)

• Protected? [square rune]
• Taxing [triangle rune]

Now, I know "Protected" is not a terrain keyword, but that's the literal translation of "Protégé". And it cannot mean Fortified because the french word "Fortifié" is already used on a terrain card from the Latari Army expansion box. It's either a new type of terrain keyword, or it's a mistake.

Someone with the french rules book could help with this.

Protected x subtracts hits from the pool before assigning hits

After seeing these new terrain, I am really glad the rules state that one player picks the terrain. Otherwise you'd have graveyards (for example) next to sacred founts, which would be really odd.

Man, I'm so excited for the Daqan and Waiqar hero expansions to come out next week!

Why does she have Scion figure upgrades??? Can anyone tell if they're different from those already revealed?

There is many mistakes, that's all. Theses upgrade cards are from Scion packs not Maegan.

16 hours ago, Parakitor said:

I am really glad the rules state that one player picks the terrain.

what do you mean? The RRG Place Terrain: Shuffle the terrain cards together. Then, deal out a number of cards equal to the number listed next to the defensive terrain (?) icon on the chosen deployment card. Set aside the terrain pieces indicated on the defensive-terrain half of the dealt cards. Repeat this process for the number shown next to the dangerous terrain (?) icon as well. Then, starting with the player who chose the deployment card, the players take turns choosing pieces of set-aside terrain and placing them on the play area until all of them have been placed. Terrain cannot be placed at range 1–2 of the edge of the play area, at range 1–2 of other terrain, or touching either deployment area.

doesn't say anything about only one player picks terrain, it is just a random draw then players take turns...

46 minutes ago, jek said:

what do you mean? The RRG Place Terrain: Shuffle the terrain cards together. Then, deal out a number of cards equal to the number listed next to the defensive terrain (?) icon on the chosen deployment card. Set aside the terrain pieces indicated on the defensive-terrain half of the dealt cards. Repeat this process for the number shown next to the dangerous terrain (?) icon as well. Then, starting with the player who chose the deployment card, the players take turns choosing pieces of set-aside terrain and placing them on the play area until all of them have been placed. Terrain cannot be placed at range 1–2 of the edge of the play area, at range 1–2 of other terrain, or touching either deployment area.

doesn't say anything about only one player picks terrain, it is just a random draw then players take turns...

True but if you are the one that chooses the deployment card you can tailor the terrain to give the best chance of getting the piece of terrain you want and then can choose it if it does come up.

For example; suppose I wanted the Forest and I got to choose the deployment card I could choose "Stand-Off" which would give me a 75% chance of being able to choose the Forest that I want.

Admittedly these odds will go down as more Terrain cards become available but it will still be possible to skew the probabilities to get terrain you'd prefer.

I wonder about adding terrain cards. Say I have the standard 4, and say you have like 8. Who's terrains do we use for the game?

this could matter, if you have certain terrain benefits to your list and I don't.

I'm sure once there is OP at full value they will explain how all that works or the OP will have specific deployments and objectives...

33 minutes ago, Ywingscum said:

I wonder about adding terrain cards. Say I have the standard 4, and say you have like 8. Who's terrains do we use for the game?

this could matter, if you have certain terrain benefits to your list and I don't.

My current guess is it will be something like this:

1) players determine bid for first player

2) first player chooses EITHER to use his terrain deck/deployment card OR his objective cards

3) other player provides the not chosen.

4) player 1 then chooses deployment or objective

5) repeat for p2

6) deal terrain from the player whose deployment card was taken (or will it be whoever takes the deployment card?)

7) play the damned game.

This would be an interesting way to preserve the dichotomy of picking 1 of 2. As you are going to list build for strong objectives, and deployment that counters your weak spots/objectives.

Wow. I didn't realize how ignorant about the rules I am. At least it sparked some interesting discussion, even if the resolution is, as usual, "Wait until FFG tells us something."

1 hour ago, stet2 said:

True but if you are the one that chooses the deployment card you can tailor the terrain to give the best chance of getting the piece of terrain you want and then can choose it if it does come up.

How? Each terrain has a defensive side and a dangerous side. So when you draw from the deck of terrain cards you cant tailor what terrain comes up, and because you draw defensive before dangerous you cant even choose which side of a given terrain you use.

2 minutes ago, flightmaster101 said:

How? Each terrain has a defensive side and a dangerous side. So when you draw from the deck of terrain cards you cant tailor what terrain comes up, and because you draw defensive before dangerous you cant even choose which side of a given terrain you use.

As I stated in the example I used. Say I'm first player that means I get to choose either the Deployment or the Objective card. Assume I really want to be able to place a Forest close to my deployment zone. I choose to take the "Stand-Off" Deployment. This has 3 Defensive terrain pieces and 0 Dangerous terrain pieces. As at present there are only 4 terrain cards I have a 3 in 4 chance that one of the cards will be the Forest I want and as I chose the deployment card I get to choose and place the first terrain piece.

9 minutes ago, stet2 said:

As I stated in the example I used. Say I'm first player that means I get to choose either the Deployment or the Objective card. Assume I really want to be able to place a Forest close to my deployment zone. I choose to take the "Stand-Off" Deployment. This has 3 Defensive terrain pieces and 0 Dangerous terrain pieces. As at present there are only 4 terrain cards I have a 3 in 4 chance that one of the cards will be the Forest I want and as I chose the deployment card I get to choose and place the first terrain piece.

I mean, that's I suppose a valid strategy now...but in a week we are looking at having 6 terrain, next month it will be up to 8, I see eventually FFG deciding which pieces to use to doing something where everyone brings 3 cards or etc, and then the idea of trying to control the terrain like that will become less of a thing...Also @Parakitor I was just confused that maybe you found a section of the rules that gave more details on how that terrain is going to work...I didn't mean to come off as insulting or snide if I did...

45 minutes ago, jek said:

I mean, that's I suppose a valid strategy now...but in a week we are looking at having 6 terrain, next month it will be up to 8, I see eventually FFG deciding which pieces to use to doing something where everyone brings 3 cards or etc, and then the idea of trying to control the terrain like that will become less of a thing...Also @Parakitor I was just confused that maybe you found a section of the rules that gave more details on how that terrain is going to work...I didn't mean to come off as insulting or snide if I did...

I used a fairly simple example but it should still be a valid strategy even when more terrain is out.

For example; what if you really want a piece of terrain that has the "Cover" keyword so that you can put a 2x1 unit of Crossbows in for the extra defence against ranged attacks.

Once all the terrain from the first 3 factions is out there will be 9 terrain cards and 3 of these will have Defensive sides that would be able to fulfil the requirements you want. So by choosing the Stand-Off deployment card the chances of at least one of these being among the 3 Defensive terrain options would be just over 70%.

It's not always going to be worthwhile but in certain instances it can be a valid strategy.

@jek, no that wasn't it at all. It's just the number of rules I forgot or messed up during my first game last night, combined with my incorrect interpretation of terrain rules was a tad disheartening, considering I'd watched all your videos, and several others, and delved into the rules reference quite a bit. I guess that's just how we learn.

From this discussion I guess we can determine that there could indeed be Latari terrain butted up against Waiqar terrain, which suspends disbelief by contradicting the lore, but it's no different than mirror matches, really. I'm cool with it.

I am dreadfully curious about how terrain will work in tournaments. As Jek mentioned above, quarterly kits appear to have some specific objectives, so there may be slight tweaks to how terrain is handled, similar to how Skirmish has special rules for objectives and terrain.

I suspect that in organized play each player will bring their own deck of objective/deployment cards and terrain and at the start of the game they will choose which player's cards and terrain will be used. In Armada, you use the second player's cards but the first player gets to pick which one. In Runewars, I wouldn't be surprised if the first player's cards are used instead, because being first player in this game doesn't convey as much of an advantage. Arguably, it's a disadvantage!

I'm thinking more on each player bring 3 objetive cards and 3 deployment cards. Shuffle them all together and pick up 3.

16 minutes ago, Contrapulator said:

I suspect that in organized play each player will bring their own deck of objective/deployment cards and terrain and at the start of the game they will choose which player's cards and terrain will be used. In Armada, you use the second player's cards but the first player gets to pick which one. In Runewars, I wouldn't be surprised if the first player's cards are used instead, because being first player in this game doesn't convey as much of an advantage. Arguably, it's a disadvantage!

I think, like Armada, it will depend on the list you bring. For instance if you bring Summersong you could go first, deploy your leonx in an insignificant part of the zone then after all units are set down deploy them for real. If you have a dreadful need to pick the objective you will bid to do that, if you want to stall deployment you would bid to do that etc.

All in all it will be a fun evolution and very interesting to see how different players use different strategies in different metas.

Old thread, I know, but... any Latari players out there have an English (preferably decent resolution) scan of this card and punchboard? Working on the terrain for the Tabletop Simulator mod, and right now I don't even know the English name for this terrain card, let alone have an image of it. It doesn't appear to be on the wiki at all.

1 hour ago, Zetan said:

Old thread, I know, but... any Latari players out there have an English (preferably decent resolution) scan of this card and punchboard? Working on the terrain for the Tabletop Simulator mod, and right now I don't even know the English name for this terrain card, let alone have an image of it. It doesn't appear to be on the wiki at all.

Ditto for the wiki. We need information on it, but I don't have that expansion. I would love to get some card scans, as well!

2 hours ago, Budgernaut said:

Ditto for the wiki. We need information on it, but I don't have that expansion. I would love to get some card scans, as well!

AHHH!! Totally forgot about these. I got back a week ago and didn't remember. Sorry, will get those up asap!

11 minutes ago, Alicitorte said:

AHHH!! Totally forgot about these. I got back a week ago and didn't remember. Sorry, will get those up asap!

I've added some screen captures from videos, but scans would be preferable. I'm just telling you in case you see images on the wiki and are tempted to think we don't need more. We still do.

I don't have the board but have the terrain, I'll see what I can do