If Obi-Wan is defeated and I play My Ally Is The Force on his before defeat trigger, I can resolve one of his dice before he is defeated, right?

And since I gained an action due to ambush when it is not my turn it has to be taken immediately, does that mean that the action is taken before Obi-Wan is defeated?

EXTRA ACTIONS (p15):
Each action, and any abilities its resolution triggers, must fully resolve before an additional action is taken. Actions wait to be resolved in the order they were created in. They do not enter the queue (see page 17) like other game effects.

So Obi-Wan is defeated before the Ambush Action will resolve as it waits until the original action resolves.

Cool, thanks.

But it can resolve one of his dice before he is defeated though, right?

1 hour ago, Jerrus said:

Cool, thanks.

But it can resolve one of his dice before he is defeated though, right?

If he is defeated using Guardian, no since Guardian is used vefore the character is activated (so there is no die of Obi).

If he is defeated as a result of opponent's damage, yes you can resolve one of his dice if they are in the pool

Thanks for the clarification

Lets add another layer to this. Obi has a 3 melee on the table. We are both down to our last characters and their character has 3 health left.

Obi is defeated trigger his BEFORE ability

Play "my ally is the force" deal 3. Defeating his character.

Does this end in

1: tie

2:or obi win

I belive its 2. As in the rule ref i quote

"•All of a player’s characters are defeated. The game ends immediately and the other player wins the game."

Obi wan wins, since he defeated the other character before he was defeated

Another thing that looks like it happens here is if it the opponents turn you use my ally is the force and resolve a die then gain an ambush action after his death, then it will be your turn so you will have 2 actions in a row to roll in and use another character or a one with the force.

5 hours ago, Stranglebat said:

Another thing that looks like it happens here is if it the opponents turn you use my ally is the force and resolve a die then gain an ambush action after his death, then it will be your turn so you will have 2 actions in a row to roll in and use another character or a one with the force.

If you gain additional actions on the opponent turn, you lost them...

1 hour ago, blackholexan said:

If you gain additional actions on the opponent turn, you lost them...

Not true.

Rules Reference, page 15: "If they [a player] are allowed to take an action outside of their turn, they also must take it immediatly or decline to act" (note that earlier in this apragraph says that the extra action follows the resolution of the current one)

1 hour ago, blackholexan said:

If you gain additional actions on the opponent turn, you lost them...

As Willy pointed out the extra actions on page 15 doesn't say you cant take extra actions they just say they have to be taken immediately,

So, if I'm playing Obi-Wan with Rey, and you think you're killing Obi-Wan on your turn, I instantly get to use My Ally is the Force, resolve Obi's One With the Force die without removing it, play Vibroknife on Rey, roll in Rey, resolve Force Speed on Rey, resolve One With the Force again, roll in One With the Force (now a support), and then (assuming you didn't kill Obi-Wan with an ambush action) it's my turn and I get to do whatever I'd do on my own turn! Cool.

21 hours ago, Willy Jarque said:

Obi wan wins, since he defeated the other character before he was defeated

But what if the other character you defeated was also Obi-Wan, the 2nd Obi-Wan ALSO played "My Ally is the Force" and did damage back to the 1st Obi-Wan...who wins NOW?

On 6/6/2017 at 5:25 AM, blackholexan said:

If he is defeated using Guardian, no since Guardian is used vefore the character is activated (so there is no die of Obi).

If he is defeated as a result of opponent's damage, yes you can resolve one of his dice if they are in the pool

Not strictly true. He could be ready while he has dice in the pool if you've used something like Noble Sacrifice (defeating a different character to ready him).

Better to keep these separate ideas. As long as you have a die in the pool, you can resolve it with My Ally is the Force, regardless of how Obi-Wan is defeated.

10 hours ago, pstalker said:

But what if the other character you defeated was also Obi-Wan, the 2nd Obi-Wan ALSO played "My Ally is the Force" and did damage back to the 1st Obi-Wan...who wins NOW?

Hahahahahahaha

First Obi-Wan wins.

Extra damage on First Obi-Wan would do nothing, since he is already (going to be) defeated. Other Obi-Wan can play what he wants, his death is going to happen before First Obi-Wan.

On 8/6/2017 at 10:38 PM, Buhallin said:

Not strictly true. He could be ready while he has dice in the pool if you've used something like Noble Sacrifice (defeating a different character to ready him).

There is no such card on Hero Side... That effect is from an Evil Event. Now you are mixing things up

39 minutes ago, blackholexan said:

There is no such card on Hero Side... That effect is from an Evil Event. Now you are mixing things up

Leadership and noble sacrifice could both used on him after hes rolled in readying him with dice in the pool, then activate him again to guardian the last bit of damage to get to that game state.

47 minutes ago, blackholexan said:

There is no such card on Hero Side... That effect is from an Evil Event. Now you are mixing things up

Not sure if serious?

2 hours ago, Buhallin said:

Not sure if serious?

Ah, so this is the card that readies Obi-Wan, right?

2 hours ago, Buhallin said:

Not sure if serious?

Read the card mate.

2 hours ago, Stranglebat said:

Leadership and noble sacrifice

Leadership yes, noble sacrifice no.

3 hours ago, Buhallin said:

Not sure if serious?

Are you serious? Please read the card again....

2 hours ago, Stu35 said:

Read the card mate.

Leadership yes, noble sacrifice no.

Haha yeah got noble sacrifice so backwards in my head. Leadership does work though. Bring on Obiwan Ackbar

So, I have a question, can I use Noble Sacrifice to defeat Obi Wan, exhaust an enemy, then play a blue card for free using Obi Wan's ability?

45 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

So, I have a question, can I use Noble Sacrifice to defeat Obi Wan, exhaust an enemy, then play a blue card for free using Obi Wan's ability?

Yes

LOL. Oops. That's what I get for posting way too late at night.

Totally my bad.