So, I'm sorry if I'm asking a question that has already been answered elsewhere, but I haven't been able to find an answer that short and sweet enough. I'd like a list of "fair" Threat Costs for every single Ally and Villain in the game, and I've heard people discuss that at length all over the place. Can somebody either point me to an actual list of sorta-kinda-agreed upon costs and cost reductions for every Ally or Villain in the game?

Otherwise, let's make that list right here... I'll sort it and all that stuff later... discuss!

OC : Original Cost
RC : Reduced Cost
Red = Changes made
Green = No changes

Imperial Villains
0-0-0 (OC: 4)
Agent Blaise (OC: 6)
AT-ST: (OC: 14 --> RC: 10)
BT-1 (OC: 6)
Captain Terro (OC: 7)
Emperor Palpatine (N/A)
General Weiss (OC: 16 --> RC: 12)
General Sorin (OC: 8)
Kayn Somos (OC: 10 --> RC: 7)
Royal Guard Champion (OC: 15 --> RC: 11)
The Grand Inquisitor (OC: 9)

Scum Villains and Groups
Boba Fett (OC: 13 --> RC: 10)
Bossk (OC: 8)
Darth Vader (OC: 18 --> RC: ??)
Dengar (OC: 7)
Greedo (OC: 4)
IG-88 (OC: 12 --> RC: ??)
Jabba the Hutt (OC: 6)
Maul (N/A)

Rebel Allies
Ahsoka Tano (N/A)
C1-10P (OC: 3)
C3-P0 (OC: 2)
Chewbacca (OC: 15 --> RC: 11)
Han Solo (OC: 12 --> RC: 8)
Hera Syndulla (OC: 4)
Obi-Wan Kenobi (OC: 10)
R2-D2 (OC: 3)
Lando Calrissian (OC: 6)
Leia Organa (OC: 8)
Luke Skywalker (OC: 10)
Luke Skywalker, Jedi Knight (OC: 12)

7 hours ago, GyldenDamgaard said:

Imperial Villains

General Weiss 12
Royal Guard Champion 11
Kayn Somos 7

Scum
Boba Fett 10

Rebel Allies

Han Solo 8
Chewbacca 11

Out of the entire list those are the only ones I'd change. The rest are fine as it is. You'll notice I simply applied -4 to all wave 1 and -3 to all wave 2 ally&villains with cost >= 10

Side notes:

I playtested these for skirmish (not campaign)

AT-ST fits in this category although not being a villain: it should be 10 imo

Farmboy Luke deserves 10, no need to reduce his points

General Sorin and Dengar are pretty weird. I'd consider them a lost cause

Ally & villains doesn't actually mean what you think they mean. For example, Bantha, ISB, hired guns are not villains

On 6/4/2017 at 7:58 AM, ricope said:

Ally & villains doesn't actually mean what you think they mean. For example, Bantha, ISB, hired guns are not villains

Umm...they kind of are? They come in Ally and Villain packs, do they not?

In terms of the campaign, a villain is a unique Imperial (Empire or Mercenary) deployment card. (See the Nemesis class deck.) The fact that it is named the same as another very similar but not quite the same subgroup, as you mentioned, is totally not confusing and weird.

Yeah, I just wrote down everything from the official product list, figuring I'd sort everything out later. But thanks for your input, ricope. I *was* thinking more of campaign, since that the only thing I play. Do your reductions also work there, you think?

So, I've updated the first post to reflect ricope's suggestions.. I also added Vader and IG-88, which I missed somehow.. and added the AT-ST.

Does anyone else have any input in cost reductions for older Villains and Allies - primarily for campaign?

You're missing Luke's OC.

I would raise C3-P0's cost to 3.

For IG-88 you can just keep the original cost but attach his skirmish upgrade.

Edit: And for Vader use the Skirmish upgrade with its discounted cost. But for both of these, only if you're actually paying threat for them. If you get them for free as part of the mission, keep their regular abilities.

On 6/8/2017 at 8:39 AM, GyldenDamgaard said:

Yeah, I just wrote down everything from the official product list, figuring I'd sort everything out later. But thanks for your input, ricope. I *was* thinking more of campaign, since that the only thing I play. Do your reductions also work there, you think?

Yes, I've been using the changed cost in both campaign and skirmish and it works pretty well

Rebels can (and will) laugh when they see me deploy Kayn for 10 and will simply ignore my agenda mission...but if they know I can deploy him for 7, then they'll actually try to prevent me from getting him

And obviously, I would still play with their original cost if I'm using the Nemeses class deck. Otherwise you'd be able to drop RGC for like 3 threat which is probably not fair to Rebels