4 vipers:

Which loadout should i take for all four?

Stealth device

Hull upgrade

At (+ 2 * seismic torps)

At (+ 2 * flechette torps)

-SSSSZ

-PlasmaTorps+Guidancechips

I like these two.

I will admit, I was surprised I didn't see proxies of the spoiled titles out last night.

I'm working on the assumption that the PS5 generic is 29 points with an EPT...

Guri (30)
Virago (1)
StarViper Mk.II (-3)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Plasma Torpedoes (3)

Black Sun ??? (29)
StarViper Mk.II (-3)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Plasma Torpedoes (3)

Black Sun ??? (29)
StarViper Mk.II (-3)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Plasma Torpedoes (3)

I have a hunch that the correct decision here might end up being upgrading one of the Enforcers to Thweek, once he has been revealed.

VI Xizor with Advanced Sensors is going to be sooooooo much fun. I am absolutely turrible at judging that bank roll so far but it has lots of potential.

If you really want to run four, I'd go with Autothrusters and Seismics on two. Not having a K-turn can make life difficult so blowing up a rock or two is nice.

I had a near mirror match last night - my Guri had Advanced Sensors and his had Sensor Jammer. Such a giggle. I don't know if it's actually a "fix;" three points isn't really all that much. But it is sooooo much fun to fly. I can't wait to see what the new pilots do.

I have feeling that MK.II Vipers work better as Ace's, so maybe one Ace and two EPT Vipers as wingman. Try out the Advance Sensor for your Ace.

3 hours ago, gamblertuba said:

VI Xizor with Advanced Sensors is going to be sooooooo much fun. I am absolutely turrible at judging that bank roll so far but it has lots of potential.

If you really want to run four, I'd go with Autothrusters and Seismics on two. Not having a K-turn can make life difficult so blowing up a rock or two is nice.

I'm not convinced that a PS9 arc-dodging Xizor will be the way to go. His shenanigans only work if he uses his BR, which leaves him with a possible FCS target lock on offense, and no tokens for defense. He may be hard to pin down, but I don't think we will accomplish much.

I have a feeling that FFG kept the Starviper PS low on purpose in order to prevent any pilot from getting both crazy arc dodging shenanigans and good action economy. A reactive PS9 banked AS BR + action economy would probably be a tad OP.

7 hours ago, TheRealStarkiller said:

4 vipers:

Which loadout should i take for all four?

You can go with Auto Thrusters on them all and then some Torps on some.

30 minutes ago, Sabre 7 said:

I'm not convinced that a PS9 arc-dodging Xizor will be the way to go. His shenanigans only work if he uses his BR, which leaves him with a possible FCS target lock on offense, and no tokens for defense. He may be hard to pin down, but I don't think we will accomplish much.

I flew Xizor back during the age of Turret-wing and Bro Bots. He was a beast! He would get in R1 and be quite hard to shake. At the time, it was more about getting to somewhere that you can shoot at them, but them not at you. At least, that's what Fat Turrets and Bro Bots did. So, Xizor was really good at keeping up with everyone and getting in R1. With FCS, he was getting 4 dice on a regular basis and sometimes with a Focus, as well. That's still pretty mean. I think the new Barrel Roll gives him some ability to arc dodge that he didn't really use much before. Xizor never really was the arc dodger that everyone expected, but it didn't mean he was not good. He would get to where he needed and fire away. The PS 9 was more to know where to chase people down.

I ran it last night; great fun.

Guri: Intensity, Mk2, Virago, AT, FCS (34 points) along with Genesis Red: VI, title, Mangler and Assajj: Adaptability, Latts Razzi.

The three point discount makes it much easier to fit Guri in a list and the banked Barrel Rolls gave my opponent some serious problems when trying to guess where Guri would be. He was running Poe-Rey.

From that little experience, I feel like the title might make Guri roughly equivalent in power to Ryad.