I can't tell...would this Norra/Shara/Biggs list DO anything?

By gennataos, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Between R4-D6 on Biggs and DtF/Jan Ors on Shara, Biggs should last a decent amount of time. Even after Biggs goes down, my opponent has to choose between the less threatening regen in Shara or Norra. The problem is, Norra has to do practically all of the damage work. Is this even worth putting on a table in a (local) competitive environment? Feel free to poke holes in it.

Norra Wexley (29)
Push the Limit (3)
Kyle Katarn (3)
BB-8 (2)
Vectored Thrusters (2)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Biggs Darklighter (25)
R4-D6 (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Shara Bey (28)
Draw Their Fire (1)
Jan Ors (2)
R2-D2 (4)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Total: 100

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Edited by gennataos

Fly it and find out! I ran something similar, shara had m9g8 and weapons engineer though, and it was pretty good. Shara kept Biggs alive awhile. I just used her 3 shields as Biggs. I just didnt like norra firing first and opponent uses tokens to evade then shara and biggs attack with weak offense.

I like the idea of a regen ship with draw their fire alongside Biggs. But I like putting R2 on Biggs and r5-p9 on Poe alongside him. They both split damage and regen.

The list itself looks good. the only concern I would have is consistent damage output. It's very defensive minded, I'm just not sure it can push enough damage on something like an X7 defender.

1. Fly

2. Evaluate Strengths and Weaknesses and determine if better flying could've generated a more favorable result

3.Modify as needed based on step 2 (ideally give the list at least a half dozen games before doing this unless you notice glaring problems)

4.Return to step 1

I tweaked it away from the typical Norra build, in part to combat the stress I see locally and in part to depart from the cookie cutter builds. I flew it a couple times today, once wiping Soontir/Whisper/Inquisitor in about 15 minutes, once getting wiped by Parattanni. I don't really take a whole lot of stock out either game. In the Imperial game, I think my opponent was completely taken by surprise by stress Norra and an early Biggs block which left Soontir and Inquisitor without actions after the first engagement. In the Parattanni game, I completely failed to realize that this list needs to fly together...plus I forgot to active R3-A2 a few times. That was the first time I'd played against Parattanni and I really didn't find it that impressive.

I'm definitely going to try this out more. It's a nice departure from my typical regen Norra.

Norra Wexley (29)
Wired (1)
Ezra Bridger (3)
R3-A2 (2)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Biggs Darklighter (25)
Proton Torpedoes (4)
R4-D6 (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Shara Bey (28)
Draw Their Fire (1)
Jan Ors (2)
R2-D2 (4)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Total: 100

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Edited by gennataos

I swapped out Shara for the Braylen stresshog and made Norra as fat as possible. Works very well. You can kill a Jumpmaster before it shoots with good dice.

Edited by NoShieldsAllGuts

A made a similar list, with Finn in Norra's back seat, based on a comment a friend of mine made about shara giving 0 damage because you have to spend her tl for finn, it has the same base idea has gennataos Norra:

Norra Wexley (29)
Push the Limit (3)
Finn (5)
R2 Astromech (1)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Shara Bey (28)
Predator (3)
Ezra Bridger (3)
R3-A2 (2)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Biggs Darklighter (25)
R4-D6 (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Total: 100

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Unfortunately no regen, but with the amount of damage on the table right now, sacrificing regen for damage/control might not be a bad idea.

Edited by DanteStorm
On 6/3/2017 at 0:45 AM, NoShieldsAllGuts said:

I swapped out Shara for the Braylen stresshog and made Norra as fat as possible. Works very well. You can kill a Jumpmaster before it shoots with good dice.

2nd at Store Champs.

On 6/4/2017 at 2:49 AM, NoShieldsAllGuts said:

2nd at Store Champs.

I'm back from vacation, it's been a while. Nice! Do you remember your full list and maybe how the store champs rounds played out? I'd be really interested to hear about it!

I haven't had a chance to play since I last posted, but I keep staring at this list and try to think of ways to tweak it. Below is my latest tweak, likely blasphemous because it trades IA for GC on Biggs. My thought is to treat this as sort of an alpha strike list.

  • Slow roll to get at least one focus on Rey for Shara to use later
  • Range control of the first round of combat is key, because I want all ships to TL the primary target for their actions. It's also ideal for Norra and Shara to be at range 1 of the primary target (aside from Fenn) and Biggs at range 2. This will probably be tough to pull off.
  • Between R4-D6 and DtF on Shara, Biggs is unlikely to be erased in the first round, even by torp alpha strike lists
  • Norra fires first, stressing the primary target and hopefully stripping some shields. I can freely spend Norra's TL in the case of a lot of blanks, as I have Shara's as a backup to add the crit from the Norra/Ezra combo.
  • Shara fires next, ideally having focus/TL to strip more shields or even put through some hull damage.
  • Biggs first off his torp, with an almost guaranteed 2 crit results.

The idea here is simply to end up trading Biggs for a more important opposing ship.

Norra Wexley (29)
Wired (1)
Ezra Bridger (3)
R3-A2 (2)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Biggs Darklighter (25)
Proton Torpedoes (4)
R4-D6 (1)
Guidance Chips (0)

Shara Bey (28)
Draw Their Fire (1)
Rey (2)
R2-D2 (4)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Total: 100

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Put R2-D2 on Biggs to keep him alive longer. ARCs can't move incredibly fast, so Biggs would be able to perform green maneuvers and still stay near Norra and Shara.

1 hour ago, ShadowTrooper7 said:

Put R2-D2 on Biggs to keep him alive longer. ARCs can't move incredibly fast, so Biggs would be able to perform green maneuvers and still stay near Norra and Shara.

That would basically invalidate DtF on Shara and probably the whole list as built.