Just now, ovinomanc3r said:I am curious about the order.
If JJ being town means that I am mafia saving another mafia (Norell) what that order means?
Maybe you being mafia trying to do a triple tap on town? JJ, night victim and me before Norell could be sacrifice.
Nice move
I mean, this is obvious stuff. You just posted some pretty incriminating stuff about JJ using some power role working as you basis. So if I take you at your word, and JJ comes up town, then yes obviously you die next.
Again, barring some other information coming to light.
Just now, Madaghmire said:I mean, this is obvious stuff. You just posted some pretty incriminating stuff about JJ using some power role working as you basis. So if I take you at your word, and JJ comes up town, then yes obviously you die next.
Yeah definitely now. I'm a little shaky on the role that Ovin puts (Neighbor) being how he got the info, but it might be a modification for our game.
We need to hear from the others guys:
@JJs Juggernaut defend yourself!
@Visovics , @Onidsen , @Tirion , @PT106 we need your input and buy in.
3 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:I mean, this is obvious stuff. You just posted some pretty incriminating stuff about JJ using some power role working as you basis. So if I take you at your word, and JJ comes up town, then yes obviously you die next.
But if JJ is townie then or I am lying (so no power role involved) or I was cheated.
If the first, there I no difference between killing me after Norell or before.
If the second I am townie and I shouldn't be killed.
4 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:But if JJ is townie then or I am lying (so no power role involved) or I was cheated.
If the first, there I no difference between killing me after Norell or before.
If the second I am townie and I shouldn't be killed.
Maybe I'm just missing it cause it's early here. But you're scum how is there not a difference in killing you first.... Again maybe I'm missing the actual point of your post.
6 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:But if JJ is townie then or I am lying (so no power role involved) or I was cheated.
If the first, there I no difference between killing me after Norell or before.
If the second I am townie and I shouldn't be killed.
I mean you play the odds. In two of these scenarios you should die if JJ comes up town.
Hell I'm starting to wonder if we can skip killing JJ and just start knitting wool sweaters
Just now, Tirion said:Maybe I'm just missing it cause it's early here. But you're scum how is there not a difference in killing you first.... Again maybe I'm missing the actual point of your post.
I said that if Norell and me are scum (something I understand it could be logic) there is no difference between killing me before or after Norell.
Why madaghmire said I must go first???
And the most important, at least to me:
WHO TALK TO ME LAST NIGHT??!!
2 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:I said that if Norell and me are scum (something I understand it could be logic) there is no difference between killing me before or after Norell.
Why madaghmire said I must go first???
Because by tightening the noose on JJ you brought your threat level up over Norells.
5 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:Hell I'm starting to wonder if we can skip killing JJ and just start knitting wool sweaters
Yeah no joke...
@ovinomanc3r are you so sure that us lynching JJ will turn up with him being town? Because that sure is what it seems like to me...
1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:Because by tightening the noose on JJ you brought your threat level up over Norells.
What I could do with that threat level?
I mean your are supposing that, if JJ is townie, then my story is big lie. What I am going to do tomorrow? To tell another story about voices in my head that people are not going to trust? What a threat!
This is a delicate situation, because that message can come on two completely different ways
1- It's a trustworthy source from a power role that we can follow
2- A false lead
right now JJ is suspect from basically all directions, so I'm inclined to change my vote if we are willing go this way, I'm only not changing now in case he is right and mafia uses the last votes to bring the hammer down, because they had opportunities to do so on Norell, he is either one or their votes were already on him
1 minute ago, Visovics said:right now JJ is suspect from basically all directions, so I'm inclined to change my vote if we are willing go this way, I'm only not changing now in case he is right and mafia uses the last votes to bring the hammer down, because they had opportunities to do so on Norell, he is either one or their votes were already on him
So this is an interesting point...what level did we hit with you and Norell on the votes?
##unvote Norell
Well now. This is an interesting bit of information here. Ovinomanc3r has got some shakeup-style news. I'm game for shifting targets, but I agree that if JJ isn't evil, we ought to take a long, hard look at ovi. But, I'm not so sure that we ought to do the immediate hanging if JJ turns up good. The three possible scenarios are: 1, ovi is evil and lying to get us to hang somebody that isn't Norell. 2 - ovi is good and being lied to by a Hutt to get the hanging moved off of Norrell. 3 - ovi is good and his source is town too.
That's 2/3 scenarios that say don't hang ovi. But we've got to look at priors here, and we don't have enough information to assign them. So, to get that information:
##vote JJ Juggernaught
Just now, CaribbeanNinja said:Yeah no joke...
@ovinomanc3r are you so sure that us lynching JJ will turn up with him being town? Because that sure is what it seems like to me...
Actually no idea.
I supposed that the voice must know things to point to someone instead of cleaning himself.
But I thought that voice was Norell and he is not.
So right now I am "perfectly fine" lynching Norell. I suspected him until the head voice. Now it seems he has nothing to do with it and it is obviously that whoever the voice was he didn't vote JJ cause there are just Norell and me.
I am pretty sure about what I have in my mailbox. I said since the beginning: Norell or JJ. I said why I choose JJ and I said what I would think about Norell if JJ was not hutt and, look, Norell posted he didn't write anything at night washing his hands about JJ being townie and look again, I became the first target IF JJ results townie.
##unvote JJ
If anyone said he is the voice in my head I will vote Norell
15 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:I know I couldn't avoid that. But it is fine. I actually think you, JJs and Caribbean being the hutts but it is just an intuition.
The thing is I am around 75% sure about Norell being townie.
I cannot claim anything but being a "drunk" moisture farmer who seems was involved in some kind of drug adventure last night.
All I can say is that: if JJs is really a moisture farmer, Norell is hutt with a 99% (I always leave the 1% of epic stupidity).
Now I need to sleep.
Let me remind all of you the conclusions that @ovinomanc3r made out of his night encounter. From my point of view, his story doesn't support 99% certainty (he doesn't even know who sent him the message). I think we're presented with a Hobson choice here: to kill JJ now and kill Norell the next day, or to kill Norell now and to kill JJ the next day. Notice that ovinomanc3r described his allegation in a way that allows him a plausible deniability in the case we kill innocent person. Also, assuming that the message was the result of someone else exercising his power, I find it curious that ovinomanc3r was preparing for his current declaration from day 1 with all his blue milk escapades. Therefore I think a simpler explanation is in order: either @ovinomanc3r is lying and trying to set us all up, or he is Force-sensitive and therefore is Rebel-aligned. In both cases I will
#vote ovinomanc3r
1 minute ago, ovinomanc3r said:If anyone said he is the voice in my head I will vote Norell
I would like to say "if no one said". I always do a mess with anyone, everyone, no one and ghostofnobodyinparticular
To me I think we need to decide if ovi is telling the truth, also it's always possible that is ovi's roll and it's a misdirect.
As far as JJ goes he has been all over the place. And that really could mean anything but if he isn't scum he is almost as dangerous as one.
Norell has been and will continue to be a main suspect.
1 minute ago, PT106 said:I find it curious that ovinomanc3r was preparing for his current declaration from day 1 with all his blue milk escapades. Therefore I think a simpler explanation is in order: either @ovinomanc3r is lying and trying to set us all up, or he is Force-sensitive and therefore is Rebel-aligned. In both cases I will
#vote ovinomanc3r
Yes, that was cool and funny coincidence for me to put that on day 1 and get the voice at night (or that became me the perfect target for that power role).
Whatever I used that to communicate with the possible voice as JJ noticed.
I didn't confirm him cause, you know, he was the one who the voice talk about.
10 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:So this is an interesting point...what level did we hit with you and Norell on the votes?
With the changes in the last minute, I'm not able right now to look (shouldn't even be online , school) but if I voted JJ we'd be on 5 due to Oni for a few minutes till Ovi backed off, Norell has either 3 or 2 right now and JJ 4 if my memory serves right.
We have around 4 1/² hours.....
29 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:Actually no idea.
I supposed that the voice must know things to point to someone instead of cleaning himself.
But I thought that voice was Norell and he is not.
So right now I am "perfectly fine" lynching Norell. I suspected him until the head voice. Now it seems he has nothing to do with it and it is obviously that whoever the voice was he didn't vote JJ cause there are just Norell and me.
I am pretty sure about what I have in my mailbox. I said since the beginning: Norell or JJ. I said why I choose JJ and I said what I would think about Norell if JJ was not hutt and, look, Norell posted he didn't write anything at night washing his hands about JJ being townie and look again, I became the first target IF JJ results townie.
##unvote JJ
If anyone said he is the voice in my head I will vote Norell
::Sigh::
First you say you're suspicious of one, and we vote, then you learn that if you're wrong we vote you and completely turn around your opinion. . . . Then PT votes you (justifiably I might add). . how 'bout we kill off JJ for being swing-y, Ovi for being indecisive, Norell 'cause he's Public Enemy #1 on most lists, and see how that goes? One at a time of course, subject to change. . . .
@JJs Juggernaut it would be pretty great to hear from you right now.
40 minutes ago, PT106 said:Let me remind all of you the conclusions that @ovinomanc3r made out of his night encounter. From my point of view, his story doesn't support 99% certainty (he doesn't even know who sent him the message). I think we're presented with a Hobson choice here: to kill JJ now and kill Norell the next day, or to kill Norell now and to kill JJ the next day. Notice that ovinomanc3r described his allegation in a way that allows him a plausible deniability in the case we kill innocent person. Also, assuming that the message was the result of someone else exercising his power, I find it curious that ovinomanc3r was preparing for his current declaration from day 1 with all his blue milk escapades. Therefore I think a simpler explanation is in order: either @ovinomanc3r is lying and trying to set us all up, or he is Force-sensitive and therefore is Rebel-aligned. In both cases I will
#vote ovinomanc3r
Its ok to be rebel aligned! We're hunting hutts!