7 minutes ago, Tirion said:

##unvote @Norell

Need to consider ovi's point

1 minute ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

Putting him on 5 is dangerous, and can be taken as suspicious, especially if he hasn't had a chance to claim!

I aggree on that part, I would get lynched if it wasn't for my claim, so until we get more

##unvote Norrel

12 minutes ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

So was this just random banter, or did you actually have a "headache"? I know I got sloppy drunk at the cantina last night....

I am trying to figure out what do you mean with ( ") headache ( ") ...

18 minutes ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

Putting him on 5 is dangerous, and can be taken as suspicious, especially if he hasn't had a chance to claim!

You point to everything as suspicious. you're one of the votes for him.... But me voting for him and giving out clear logical reasons why I was is suspicious? I'm still for voting on norell but ovi bright up some interesting points so I unvoted. To consider since I knew I was the fifth vote. Guess what someone will have to be the 5th vote every time. Norell was the clear crowd favorite so to speak. If voting for him makes someone suspicious we are all in trouble.

1 minute ago, Tirion said:

You point to everything as suspicious. you're one of the votes for him.... But me voting for him and giving out clear logical reasons why I was is suspicious? I'm still for voting on norell but ovi bright up some interesting points so I unvoted. To consider since I knew I was the fifth vote. Guess what someone will have to be the 5th vote every time. Norell was the clear crowd favorite so to speak. If voting for him makes someone suspicious we are all in trouble.

A third vote on JJs wouldn't be suspicious

3 hours ago, Madaghmire said:

Europe is a good reason for the silence.

Jj backed off of Truth pretty quickly though. Could mean he figured Truth had a power role and didnt want him to die, as he says.

Could be he figured Truth had a power role and so he... killed him! <dun dun duuuuuun>

JJ's posts read to me as either vanilla town or Godfather.

Norell is trying desperately to throw suspicion off of himself, as he should. I'd say "I don't believe in witch hunts" is sort of a strange remark for someone playing this game, because this is basically a simulated witch hunt. Not really evidence of anything, just sayin'.

I'm a little concerned he's unsure of how to make a full claim.

I'm equally concerned there are already three votes on him, and none of them are mine. For that to be a good thing, it means a full 50% of the remaining town has to be voting for Norell.

I'm also suspicious of slippy NiPpy, because ghosts creep me out.

What did I do to become suspicious? Die? Come on! I'm calling unfair discrimination against the dead!

In all seriousness though, it looks like primary suspicion is on either JJ or Norell. Why don't they both claim, and we vote for the one whose claim is the least believable, unless they both seem good, in which case we vote PT or Onidsen, as the next suspicious?

Also, I like that nickname: Slippy NiPpy. . . Has a ring to it

I really should leave the bantering or I will get be hung again

2 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

In all seriousness though, it looks like primary suspicion is on either JJ or Norell. Why don't they both claim, and we vote for the one whose claim is the least believable, unless they both seem good, in which case we vote PT or Onidsen, as the next suspicious?

3 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

A third vote on JJs wouldn't be suspicious

Pressure.

1 hour ago, ovinomanc3r said:

I am trying to figure out what do you mean with ( ") headache ( ") ...

Basically asking if you made it up as friendly banter, or if you had an ingame reason to make that statement.

47 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Pressure.

I claimed day 1. I'm an ordinary Moisture Farmer, no power role here.

"Where is @Madaghmire for I much desire to speak with him?"

Círdan LOTR FOTR

2 hours ago, Tirion said:

As wishy-washy as this sounds.

I'm not sold on norell the same way some others are. But as I have previously stated we aren't going to win by not hanging. I was willing enough when the clock was running down yesterday to vote so I guess I'll vote again if this is the direction we are going. I am aware this puts us at 5. But I don't really see the consensus shifting that hard away from norell since he almost died yesterday.

##vote @Norell

Something that I didn't understood at that time and I don't understand now.What was the rationale of sneaking in a vote at the last minute when it wouldn't spark any additional discussion but may only add to a chance of a surprise kill? (I'm also surprised no one really mentioned this till now)

54 minutes ago, Tirion said:

You point to everything as suspicious. you're one of the votes for him.... But me voting for him and giving out clear logical reasons why I was is suspicious? I'm still for voting on norell but ovi bright up some interesting points so I unvoted. To consider since I knew I was the fifth vote. Guess what someone will have to be the 5th vote every time. Norell was the clear crowd favorite so to speak. If voting for him makes someone suspicious we are all in trouble.

Mainly just when it comes to you. Your inconsistencies are really starting to worry me. Your "clear logical reasons" were "I'm not sold on norell the same way some others are. But as I have previously stated we aren't going to win by not hanging. I was willing enough when the clock was running down yesterday to vote so I guess I'll vote again if this is the direction we are going. I am aware this puts us at 5. But I don't really see the consensus shifting that hard away from norell since he almost died yesterday. "

The only reason you give is that you will go along with the group...while also sneakily putting Norell on h-1...something you should never do until he has had a chance to claim and we agree then to hammer or not. Your deflections are just making you more suspicious, so much so I'm highly considering voting for you instead of norell.

2 minutes ago, PT106 said:

Something that I didn't understood at that time and I don't understand now.What was the rationale of sneaking in a vote at the last minute when it wouldn't spark any additional discussion but may only add to a chance of a surprise kill? (I'm also surprised no one really mentioned this till now)

Exactly! I was just typing this up!

Last minute what? I was lobbying for others to join in.

Also the way you get kills is by going skiing with the group.... Let I checked at least. I'm being honest in that I'm not on the norell train as far as some others. But as I have continually stated, even I keep getting accused of inconsistencies, is that we need to kill someone other wise we will lose. Nothing inconsistent there. I have said if this is where the the group is at let's do it. Not inconsistent either. They only thing I was inconsistent with was the being quite thing with you and I clearly explained myself there.

Also JJ I'm not pointing the finger at you. I've been following your lead today, and then getting accused by you for doing it. You thought plenty of people were suspicious you pushed hard for vis, you went hard today for norell citing how suspicious you thought he was. Now your are pretending I'm the only person you've been going after. I've only followed your lead.

If Norell is hutt, why the hell he didn't claim anything when he had been at hammer-2 (even -1 for a while)?

It is not like if his criminal fellows couldn't help him to build up a credible lie or at least try it. I think he is really alone on this so or someone is selling him (see JJs, Onidsen or Tirion here) or he is completely townie.

Answering questions in advance:

- I pointed Onidsen cause he was the first vote.

- I pointed JJs cause he is a first line suspect as Norell is, at least for me.

- I pointed Tirion cause he was the fifth dangerous vote.

A thing I agree with JJs is that if we don't lynch we won't win. Is there someone with other concerns about JJs or someone else?

2 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

If Norell is hutt, why the hell he didn't claim anything when he had been at hammer-2 (even -1 for a while)?

It is not like if his criminal fellows couldn't help him to build up a credible lie or at least try it. I think he is really alone on this so or someone is selling him (see JJs, Onidsen or Tirion here) or he is completely townie.

Answering questions in advance:

- I pointed Onidsen cause he was the first vote.

- I pointed JJs cause he is a first line suspect as Norell is, at least for me.

- I pointed Tirion cause he was the fifth dangerous vote.

A thing I agree with JJs is that if we don't lynch we won't win. Is there someone with other concerns about JJs or someone else?

I've been saying this from day 1..... While being called inconsistent.

I unvoted due to your points you brought up. And as I said if we get suspicious of every single person that is a 5th or 6th vote we are going to be spinning in circles.

43 minutes ago, Tirion said:

"Where is @Madaghmire for I much desire to speak with him?"

Círdan LOTR FOTR

4 minutes ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

I almost unvote you

25 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

If Norell is hutt, why the hell he didn't claim anything when he had been at hammer-2 (even -1 for a while)?

It is not like if his criminal fellows couldn't help him to build up a credible lie or at least try it. I think he is really alone on this so or someone is selling him (see JJs, Onidsen or Tirion here) or he is completely townie.

Answering questions in advance:

- I pointed Onidsen cause he was the first vote.

- I pointed JJs cause he is a first line suspect as Norell is, at least for me.

- I pointed Tirion cause he was the fifth dangerous vote.

A thing I agree with JJs is that if we don't lynch we won't win. Is there someone with other concerns about JJs or someone else?

Oni seems to have barged in, and with no logic other than "what we had yesterday, here it is" votes Norrell and vanishes

Norrell has not given a reasonably convincing defence or a claim yet despite being 1 vote close to death at one point, so I feel he has nothing to save himself right now and may be trying to save himself by letting people switch focus to others

JJ has been trying exceptionally hard to get a lynch but when votes go up those voting become suspicious? I see there the same inconsistency you talk about in Tirion

Speaking of which, Tirion is the only that gave a reasonable explanation to his actions, because he is right here, you cannot lynch without a popular vote, so why is it suspicious to be on the popular vote?

Right now I'm keeping my eyes open to:

Norrell

JJ

Oni

1 minute ago, Visovics said:

Oni seems to have barged in, and with no logic other than "what we had yesterday, here it is" votes Norrell and vanishes

Norrell has not given a reasonably convincing defence or a claim yet despite being 1 vote close to death at one point, so I feel he has nothing to save himself right now and may be trying to save himself by letting people switch focus to others

JJ has been trying exceptionally hard to get a lynch but when votes go up those voting become suspicious? I see there the same inconsistency you talk about in Tirion

Speaking of which, Tirion is the only that gave a reasonable explanation to his actions, because he is right here, you cannot lynch without a popular vote, so why is it suspicious to be on the popular vote?

Right now I'm keeping my eyes open to:

Norrell

JJ

Oni

It's not suspicious to vote as a group, its suspicious to vote without giving a reason, and also to be the 5th vote without a giving Norell a chance to claim! That is not inconsistency (notice I haven't jumped on anyone else who voted on Norell, except Tirion, since he was putting Norell on H-1). Also, Tirion said he wasn't sure about his vote, yet decided to be the very dangerous h-1. I'm all for hammering norell if we agree, but Tirion was either being careless or deceptive.

1 hour ago, Tirion said:

"Where is @Madaghmire for I much desire to speak with him?"

Círdan LOTR FOTR

At work. Catching up on thread atm.

4 minutes ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

I'm all for hammering norell if we agree, but Tirion was either being careless or deceptive.

Can you explain to me, what was wrong in Norell behavior? I didn't get the reason for hammering him day 1, and I certainly don't get it now.

2 minutes ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

It's not suspicious to vote as a group, its suspicious to vote without giving a reason, and also to be the 5th vote without a giving Norell a chance to claim! That is not inconsistency (notice I haven't jumped on anyone else who voted on Norell, except Tirion, since he was putting Norell on H-1). Also, Tirion said he wasn't sure about his vote, yet decided to be the very dangerous h-1. I'm all for hammering norell if we agree, but Tirion was either being careless or deceptive.

This narrows it down to 2

@Norell

@Onidsen

What do the defendants have to say? (Mostly Norell, because if it isn't good that vote is going right back in)

**** that is some bad internet